
Modern Indo-European languages - which include English - originated in Turkey about 9,000 years ago, researchers say.
Their findings differ from conventional theory that these languages originated 5,000 years ago in south-west Russia.
The New Zealand researchers used methods developed to study virus epidemics to create family trees of ancient and modern Indo-European tongues to pinpoint where and when the language family first arose.
Their study is reported in Science.
A language family is a group of languages that arose from a common ancestor, known as the proto-language.
Linguists identify these families by trawling through modern languages for words of similar sound that often describe the same thing, like water and wasser (German). These shared words - or cognates - represent our language inheritance.
According to the Ethnologue database, more than 100 language families exist.
The Indo-European family is one of the largest families - more than 400 languages spoken in at least 60 countries - and its origins are unclear.
The Steppes, or Kurgan, theorists hold that the proto-language originated in the Steppes of Russia, north of the Caspian Sea, about 5,000 years ago.
The Anatolia hypothesis - first proposed in the late 1980s by Prof Colin Renfrew (now Lord Renfrew) - suggests an origin in the Anatolian region of Turkey about 3,000 years earlier.
To determine which competing theory was the most likely, Dr Quentin Atkinson from the University of Auckland and his team interrogated language evolution using phylogenetic analyses - more usually used to trace virus epidemics.
Phylogenetics reveals relatedness by assessing how much of the information stored in DNA is shared between organisms.
Chimpanzees and humans have a common ancestor and share about 98% of their DNA. Because of this shared ancestry, they cluster together on phylogenetic - or family - trees.
Like DNA, language is passed down, generation to generation.
Although language changes and evolves, some linguists have argued that cognates describing the fundamentals of life - kinship (mother, father), body parts (eye, hand), the natural world (fire, water) and basic verbs (to walk, to run) - resist change.
These conserved cognates are strongly linked to the proto-language of old.
Dr Atkinson and his team built a database containing 207 cognate words present in 103 Indo‐European languages, which included 20 ancient tongues such as Latin and Greek.
Using phylogenetic analysis, they were able to reconstruct the evolutionary relatedness of these modern and ancient languages - the more words that are cognate, the more similar the languages are and the closer they group on the tree.
The trees could also predict when and where the ancestral language originated.
Looking back into the depths of the tree, Dr Atkinson and his colleagues were able to confirm the Anatolian origin.
To test if the alternative hypothesis - of a Russian origin several years later - was possible, the team used competing models of evolution to pitch Steppes and Anatolian theory against each other.
In repeated tests, the Anatolian theory always came out on top.
Commenting on the paper, Prof Mark Pagel, a Fellow of the Royal Society from the University of Reading who was involved in earlier published phylogenetic studies, said: "This is a superb application of methods taken from evolutionary biology to understand a problem in cultural evolution - the origin and expansion of the Indo-European languages.
"This paper conclusively shows that the Indo-European languages are at least 8-9,500 years old, and arose, as has long been speculated, in the Anatolian region of what is modern-day Turkey and spread outwards from there."
Commenting on the inclusion of ancient languages in the analyses, he added: "The use of a number of known calibration points from 'fossil' languages greatly strengthens the conclusions."
However, the findings have not found universal acceptance. Prof Petri Kallio from the University of Helsinki suggests that several cognate words describing technological inventions - such as the wheel - are evident across different languages.
He argues that the Indo-European proto-language diversified after the invention of the wheel, about 5,000 years ago.
On the phylogenetic methods used to date the proto-language, Prof Kallio added: "So why do I still remain sceptical? Unlike archaeological radiocarbon dating based on the fixed rate of decay of the carbon-14 isotope, there is simply no fixed rate of decay of basic vocabulary, which would allow us to date ancestral proto-languages.
"Instead of the quantity of the words, therefore, the trained Indo-Europeanists concentrate on the quality of the words."
Prof Pagel is less convinced by the counter-argument: "Compared to the Kurgan hypothesis, this new analysis shows the Anatolian hypothesis as the clear winner."----
Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19368988

By: MB-UK
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Turkey and Anatolia should not be used in he same context , Anatolia is stolen lands by its original inhabitants by the mongol Turks.
but again not surprising coming from BBC who is in the Turkish pay book.
Posted Aug-25-2012 ByVartanZoravar (97.10) 
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Great article, thanks for sharing MB
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Posted Aug-26-2012 ByGod_Himself (1211.66) 
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very interesting article! i find it so fascinating that english, latin, and even hindi are all related. fascinating world we live in for sure. i personally thank the aryans, no not white people, the original aryans that inhabited central asia, they gave all humans a jump start when it came to language, even some technology like horseback riding.
Posted Aug-25-2012 Bymaxwellthebest (757.80) 
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interesting article, so basically 4000 years off and half as many km away from previously thought..:D
Posted Aug-25-2012 Bysp0ke (420.46) sp0ke View Channel Send Message
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lol...ok then whatever you say...
Posted Aug-26-2012 Byharv (120.72) 
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So Greeks lied about inventing language, interesting to know real insead of fictional history. By no means claiming Turks invented language, but cool to know Greeks didn't.
Posted Aug-25-2012 Byturkzil (123.18) 
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@turkzil Greece and Turkey are irrelevent because 6000 years ago, when this was happenning....guess what...neither existed!!
Turks wouldn't settle in Anatolia till 10thC AD, i.e. 4000 years later
Posted Aug-25-2012 ByElegantDecline (2129.68) 
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@turkzil im sorry to say it wasnt modern turks as you know them, but rather tribes of aryan horsemen, and no i dont mean white people, i mean real aryans
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@ElegantDecline exactly
Posted Aug-25-2012 Bymaxwellthebest (757.80) 
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@turkzil turkey is shit
Posted Aug-25-2012 By104JebackaBrigada (561.90)

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Turks 1.
Islam.
Turks 0.
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@govett You are aware that the Turks came to what is now Turkey in the 11th century, having roamed the asian steppe as a vagrant people, not unlike the Mongols?
You are aware that the Turks became muslims quite some time after that??
It's about the land 9000 yrs ago and has very little do do with Turkey today.
Posted Aug-26-2012 ByUac_mitun_ahau (232.22) Uac_mitun_ahau View Channel Send Message
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@Uac_mitun_ahau his to stupid.
Posted Aug-26-2012 By104JebackaBrigada (561.90)

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bS
Posted Aug-25-2012 Byhackrisk (165.24) 
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@hackrisk What is bullshit is how you claim to have invented language but have been proven wrong you lying Greek.
Posted Aug-25-2012 Byturkzil (123.18) 
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@turkzil FYI the Greeks would not be in the financial shape they are in today, if the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) had not carried out the first genocide (that word was actually invented to describe the Ottoman atrocities, by the way) on the Greeks...and the Armenians, and the Christians in Syria.
It is well documented that even the German Nazi's and Russian commanders were BOTH in a state of shock when they came across the absolute murder, looting, rape and torture carried out on these innocent neig More..
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@cougar58 How would the Nazi's have been in a state of shock when they came across it, when it happened 30 years before World War 2?
Posted Aug-25-2012 ByElegantDecline (2129.68) 
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@turkzil you are scum! You committed genocide in WW1.
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@turkzil Greeks do not claim that they invented the western language because they actually have; Either you like it or not.
Posted Aug-25-2012 Byhackrisk (165.24) 
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@Justin Bieber
look up West Frisian, Saterland Frisian, and North Frisian languages...They absolutely did evolve in Germany.
Now take a trip to New Orleans, and record the Cajun language....sounds like French, right? Play it back to people in Paris and they will not understand a word of it.
Evolution works in many ways.
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@Justin Bieber i bet you are one those wackos who doesnt belive in human evolution either, even though it stares you in the face
Posted Aug-25-2012 Bymaxwellthebest (757.80) 
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@Justin Bieber
Science actually has an explanation for why you think that: you're a fucking idiot.
Posted Aug-25-2012 ByTanngrisnir3 (357.64) Tanngrisnir3 View Channel Send Message
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@Justin Bieber people in the 1700 century where traveling from the uk to new zealand, they ended up been shipwrecked on and island, they where traveling from Norfolk in England, so they settled on the island and called it Norfolk Island. over the years they have evolved there own language called Norfuk it sounds alot like a Norfolk accent in England but the words are not English anymore.
Posted Aug-25-2012 ByHailToTheSkunk (312.30) 
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