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Over 9,000 Murders by Gun in US, 39 in UK

Number of Murders, United States, 2009: 15,241

Number of Murders by Firearms, US, 2009: 9,146

Number of Murders, Britain, 2008: 648

Number of Murders by firearms, Britain, 2008: 39

Source: http://www.juancole.com/2011/01/over-9000-murders-by-gun-in-us-39-in-uk.html



Are you going to keep long in denial U.S.A?


Added: Jan-13-2013 
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  • Comment of user 'SlipperyWhenWet' has been deleted by author (after account deletion)!
    • @SlipperyWhenWet
      Only criminals and the gobmit would have guns

      oh wait,
      the gobit IS the criminal element in all this

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    • @SlipperyWhenWet exactly, retards stay retards

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    • @SlipperyWhenWet honestly I do not feel the sudden urge to arm myself and defend myself from... ahmm I have no fucking clue against whom I'd have to protect myself, it's not like I live in the worlds most hated country and people try to blow me up every day

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  • In my view, the UK government runs a bit roughshod over its people. It seems to be an over-regulating, over-taxing monstrosity that is increasingly out of touch with its common folk. There is no balance whatsoever.

    I would prefer live under a government that is slightly afraid of it's population.

    Our 2nd Amendment gives us a mechanism to achieve a balance that is just not there in the UK.

    So, while its sad that this many people die because of asshats with guns, I would not change it to be m More..

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    • @wharris but the usa government is moving in the same direction as the uk gov and your guns dont make a bit of differences. btw in 2011 45.418 people in England and wales applied for a gun out of all of them only 163 where rejected so its hardly a gun ban people just dont wont them over here.

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AonYZs4MzlZbcGhOdG0zTG1EWkVPdmFISlFXSTNwYlE&hl=en#gid=1

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    • @HailToTheSkunk
      Agree we are moving in that direction of a larger and more oppressive government.

      What I find interesting is that while we move that direction, at the very same time, there has never been more restrictions on guns.

      Coincidence?

      If the peoples of the UK are fine with a huge government, and no parity, that's fine. You can have that. However, I think that this serves to highlight a huge historical difference between Europeans and Americans.

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    • @HailToTheSkunk very true, I am a gun owner in the UK. I hold a permit and have .22lr and a couple of shotguns under that permit. The thing is I rarely talk about them, I see them as a means to end much like any other tool, I never think of them as weapons to defend myself with. I have two perfectly good fists to do that. It is just a cultural difference, general people are not that interested in guns over here.

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    • @Darxider

      Kinda sad that you have to have permission (A license) to simply own a .22LR.

      Good platform btw. I've had one since I've been 16.

      BTW, I agree with you. I talk little of my guns normally as they are just tools.

      However, my wife does not have my fists, so I gave her some additional "tools" to use while I am not home.

      The media makes it sound like everyone in the US are gun fanatics. That is not the case. There are regular people here. Some have guns, some don't. And I More..

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    • @wharris but the USA has a cooperate tax rate of 40% and the uk 28%.

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  • Its not the "guns" its our culture , even if u take the guns away we will be stabbing each other to death with tooth picks.

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  • "Are you going to keep long in denial U.S.A?"

    Yes, yes they are, just read the comments

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  • all bollocks...all these stats used by all the trolls on here are shit...
    If the Yanks want thier guns and are ok with the deathrate ..then fine...if we are ok with stabbings etc then fine..fuck off with all this shit...UK is NOT the most violent in Europe and Yankland is not the worst for gun deaths in the world...nothings gonna change, except stupid cunts here will believe anything if its rammed down thier throats enough times...ffs people..get a fucking life!

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  • More people in America spend time in the outdoors.Majority of people in Britain hide behind their doors in fear of going out, especially in Cities and Large Towns.

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    • @Sense and Logic you think we have more coach potatos in the uk?

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    • @Sense and Logic
      Those US gun stats are 90% black on black drug on drug,poor on poor issues.
      It has little to do with law abiding citizens who have firearms secured properly...
      These ARE gun hunnting accidents but PETA isn't concerned about the animals in question

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    • @buoymarker Thanks for the link.............."The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research".....Britains law abiding citizens need guns to defend themselves.

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    • @Sense and Logic We dont,as no one has any to attack us with and the criminals only fight each other.

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  • Nice cherry picked graph. It looks pretty, but doesn't show the 62 other countries many of which have total gun bans that are far ahead of the US in Murder rate. It also does not show which percentage of these homicides is classed as "justifiable", you know people who used the gun to protect their lives.

    Source: The information from the UN. Read the data yourself, don't let some blogger summarize it for you.

    http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/Homicid More..

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  • I love how the people who have never resided, voted for, or defended America know what's best for it...

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    • @The Black Orchestra im sorry but what makes America different from other democratic countries besides your insain gun homocide rate.

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    • @zyprezz

      ITs not that high, the numbers, as always are fudged to serve an agenda..

      Notice there are a few countries missing on there like Briton, France.. and a few others, who despite their strick gun laws, have much worse numbers than the US.

      I could just as easily make the same chart, but only list countries that have HIGHER murder rates than the US, and say "look how good guns are"

      Besides, the UK is a muslim country now, apples and oranges.

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    • @zyprezz
      Did I say America was any different anywhere above? You don't live here, so why be so concerned?

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    • @Nothingisfree Thats a bit like saying the USA is a mexican country.

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    • @The Black Orchestra
      it's called freedom of speech and from my point of view guns should not be allowed in society since we don't live in a anarchy from my perspective the police, hunters, and marines should be the only people who were allowed to own a gun all your crazy "stand your gound" or "consealed carry" only promotes paranoia

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  • every legal gun owner should turn their guns in.problem solved .if you agree you are an idiot.
    keeping mine

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    • @buoymarker so what, America is a safe haven or what's your point, lol?

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    • @buoymarker Now go compare what constitutes a "violent crime" in every country and redo this exercise. Oh wait, it'll show that you're wrong so don't.

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    • @BCAA I think his point, and I could be wrong, is that based off your violent crime data maybe a people who are far more violent than us should focus more on cleaning up their own house before lecturing the United States on what we should do with ours.

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    • @ProfessorWho this post was about the gun related murders in the states and other developed countries, so I don't know why we should start discussing pick-pockets and barfights within this discussion

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  • so we are a little ambitious over here we want to be in the lead in all things.

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  • It came from a blog on the internet.....it MUST be true!

    Apparently the idiot who put those stats together doesn't know the difference between "murder" and "justifiable homicide". He lumped is all together. The word "homicide" is NOT synonymous with the word "murder".

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  • Fuck that!

    There are over 315 million people in the US , the gun crime statistics are negligible at best , to the amount of firearms owners there here in the states.

    Why punish 97 % of the gun owners in this country , for the stupidity of a tiny few.

    Banning guns will do absolutely nothing to change these stats , it will stimulate them to rise.

    It will however give the government a monopoly over deadly coercive force , and make all Americans subject to guaranteed absolute tyranny!

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  • Can we now please stop posting that pro-gun guy who says that the UK is more violent than the UK? Check this out, http://www.citizensreportuk.org/reports/murders-fatal-violence-uk.html, it has murder rate per 1,000,000 head of population, not per 100,000
    Just one more thing, the US has 4 categories of violent crime (they're actually violent crimes), the UK has 42, which includes such horrific crimes as
    Threats
    Minor force - being pushed
    Severe force - being hit
    Violence without injury
    Assault w More..

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  • Cherry picking statistics.

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  • The U.S. doesn't make the top 37 countries in murders:

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

    The Brits are right behind the states in crime... even though their population pales in comparison:

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime

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  • Another numbers adjustment. Again, stop concerning yourself with MY guns.

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    • @gcr3903 Then stop interfering with the world. As long as you stick your nose up the world's ass, the world will be opinionated about you. United states of the world, but only when it's okay with you?

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    • @lethe

      Yea , but I'm not endorsing what my psychopathic government does in regards to foreign policy!

      And most Americans don't either.

      At least the ones who are not complicit in these heinous acts against other nations.

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    • @lethe

      Now your catching on.

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    • @lethe Do you think the average US citizen gives a shit about the rest of the world? Hate to break it to you...we couldn't give a fuck about you?
      Apparently that comment will anger people as well.
      The way I see it...we are damned if we do look into other countries politics etc and damned if we don't. Such is life when you come from a country that isn't struggling with 'real' civil wars...starvation....mass amounts of poverty. But then again part of being 'socially responsible' is helping out yo More..

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  • misleading... figure includes justifiable homicides... including police shootings

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  • I don't see Syria on the list.

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  • more bullshit facts and bar graphs. none of this shit is reliable on either side, people have ass fucked these numbers into oblivion. how about homicides and violent attacks in general. if i get murdered it wont really make a shit if it was a .223 round or a large stick with a nail in it.

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  • I live in a place where 9 out of 10 homes have guns. I hear gunshots all the time. do I cower in fear? NO. I know that my neighbors are the ones who have my back against the criminal minds who might want to rob my house. I feel safer with armed neighbors. and I have my own guns. crime barely exists here. remove the guns and that will change.

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  • Us population 311 mil


    Uk population 64 mil

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    • @kent04 no wonder the yanks have a reputation for being thick as pigshit.

      Now times the uK gun murder rate... hell, even the outright murder rate, by 6, and its still nowhere near you homicidal maniacs.

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    • @kent04 So if I do the maths and round our country up to 311 mil then we should have about 200 gun deaths lol.

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  • I think the stats are a bit off. More murders in Ireland than the UK..I feel these stats were invented to stir the shit....

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  • Showing a single graph that shows more people die in America than anywhere else does not prove anything. There are over 330 million people that live hear and via the constitution law abiding citizens have the right to protect themselves. 80% of our gun crimes are commited by criminals and people with mental conditions or both. Our govt and police can not enforce the laws at hand now so taking certain guns or all guns away from everyone is not gonna solve anything but take away freedoms and secur More..

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