Kalam Cosmological Argument
An interesting video discussing the scientific basis for the creation of the universe and how it doesn't necessarily conflict with the concept of a creating agent (ala God.)
Beware, it's slanted from a Theists point of view, however the science is accurate. It would still be an interesting watch for Atheists. Especially the ignorant ones who have no reason for their atheistic views other than it being trendy.
Added: Jun-29-2012 Occurred On: Jun-29-2012
By: NateyG2
In: Science and Technology
Tags: big bang, kalam, cosmological, fine tuning argument, God, universe, space, creation
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By: NateyG2
In: Science and Technology
Tags: big bang, kalam, cosmological, fine tuning argument, God, universe, space, creation
Location: United States (load item map)
Marked as: approved
Views: 1082 | Comments: 35 | Votes: 3 | Favorites: 5 | Shared: 4 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 1
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actually as a scientist and an atheist we now know thanks to string theory that our universe did not come from nothing but was the result of a collision between the dimensions. The dimensions very rarely touch each other but when they do massive amounts of energy are transfered thus creating a universe. Then we have the other major problem with this video, if they are infering the universe was created by some supreme being they have let the cat out of the basket and the next logical questions More..
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByPenguinister (493.50) 
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"if they are infering the universe was created by some supreme being they have let the cat out of the basket and the next logical questions is who created the supreme being" You should maybe watch the video. This was explicitly addressed with a compelling counter argument. Taking the question, "who created the creator" begs the question, "who created the creator's creator", logically continuing on ad infinitum with the eventuality that at some point i More..
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByNateyG2 (239.30) NateyG2 View Channel Send Message
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@Penguinister.. "..we now know thanks to string theory.."
String theory is that,just a theory. Man as of yet doesn't have a single test to promote the existent of strings. And the same goes for multi-dimensions.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByPretzel-Logic (58.20) Pretzel-Logic View Channel Send Message
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@NateyG2 ...take a pill, man.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByNepean109 (1016.80) 
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@Pretzel-Logic ...take two pills, man.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByNepean109 (1016.80) 
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@Nepean109 I don't take pills. Do you have something to offer in regards to my above comment.If so I'd like to hear it. Maybe you know something I don't. Or are you just trolling?
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByPretzel-Logic (58.20) Pretzel-Logic View Channel Send Message
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Only in america, and some backwards 3rd world countries in africa and the middle east is it still valid to argue that a supreme being created the universe. the US is the only non 3rd world country that teach this drivel to children in school. In essence perpetuating the state of ignorance for another generation.
that right there pretty much says it all. the rest of the planet have moved on.
Or on an individual basis; we though the idea of god was cute, then we turned 6.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByKasmackba (368.48) Kasmackba View Channel Send Message
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@Kasmackba look, a genius who solved the chicken or the egg causality dilemma at 6.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByJohnMcLane2008 (773.70) 
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there is no dilemma.
humans have created religion. we have created all of them. chistianity isn't special. not by a long shot.
it just happens to be the predominant religon at the moment.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByKasmackba (368.48) Kasmackba View Channel Send Message
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@Kasmackba yea no dilemma, like when the ostrich burries her head in the sand, it makes the danger disappear.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByJohnMcLane2008 (773.70) 
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I agree 100%.
religion has done that since day 1 in a futile attempt to supress logic, reason, exploration and science.
The perpetuation of ignorance is vital in order to maintain the status quo of religious nuttery.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByKasmackba (368.48) Kasmackba View Channel Send Message
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& the explanation that explains everything but in itself inexplicable explains nothing. AKA God, it's circular logic.
Posted Jun-30-2012 Byrozza2012 (393.98) 
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There're baaaaaackkk...
The Creationists are back.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByLazerhead (277.58) Lazerhead View Channel Send Message
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coloring ex nihilo as a quack theory along with invalid MP logic doesn't prove any religion. stop watching after 5 mins
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByLoganTNY (258.30) 
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Problem!
The Principle of Parsimony applies to the Cosmological Argument given here. Causation of the universe must come from an eternal being, they say, but you can remove that eternal being and just say the universe is eternal. Now, one might jump the gun and say the universe we know had a beginning, but what of the universe we don't know. That argument cuts away the unneeded part of there being a First Cause. Perhaps the universe itself is a necessary existent.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByHunterseeker (108.90) 
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Bear with me on 1 question:
If the 'Big Bang' started at one point - the universe created, and the galaxys are expanding away from each other as this doco is stating.
Question: Why don't we just reverse the directions of the galaxys (as we know which way they are moving - which is now to humans basic science), to work out where they started from?
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Posted Jun-30-2012 ByObba41 (376.66) 
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@Obba41 It's called the Large Hadron Collider.
Posted Jun-30-2012 Byrozza2012 (393.98) 
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The LHC only looks for 'unknown' particles. Liek the Higgs. Even then they say that it is unlikely the LHC has the power to find the Higgs.
LHC power level 7 Tev. The Higgs, 14+ Tev.
With upgrades the LHC might do 12Tev but not till 2015.
Posted Jul-1-2012 ByObba41 (376.66) 
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makes no fucking sense. just heard a galaxy is heading towards ours. how does that work
Posted Jun-30-2012 Byjay333dee (341.80) jay333dee View Channel Send Message
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There was no light at the start of the Big Bang. The opening animation is ridiculously inaccurate.
Posted Jun-30-2012 Bygovett (944.80) govett View Channel Send Message
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Man does not have a monopoly on creation.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByPretzel-Logic (58.20) Pretzel-Logic View Channel Send Message
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Out of nothing - religion arises!
Wow! Huge assumption: the cause of the universe is beyond space and time! Wow! Huge bullshit jump there! Who ever said the "big bang" didn't happen before - maybe dozens of times before!
B U L L S H I T from scaredy religio-nuts. First clue, the background music!
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByNepean109 (1016.80) 
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this is serious stuff for serious reflexions. Is science explaining god or is it god's work we see in science....?
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByDavaeron (165.58) 
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Hawking was born gay
Posted Jun-30-2012 Byhamburger (562.60) 
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the guy at 26:20 is clearly an alien
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByEagle eye (200.70) 
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Excellent video. It's astonoshing with how much energy and effort scientists and thinkers pursue this question.
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByRasengan (1201.28) Rasengan View Channel Send Message
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