Conservative columnist David Frum, who was speechwriter for former President George W. Bush, blasted Fox News on Sunday for creating an "alternative knowledge system."
In an article published by New York Magazine in late November, Frum had argued that conservative media like Fox News and talk radio "immerse their audience in a total environment of pseudo-facts and pretend information."
In an appearance on CNN Sunday, Frum cited claims made on Fox News that President Barack Obama was proposing a "new Christmas tree tax," something that was found by both The Florida Times-Union and PolitiFact Oregon to be not true.
"It fed into a story about this Muslim-y kind of president trying to destroy a Christian holiday," Frum explained to CNN's Howard Kurtz. "To make this a ground for a cultural conflict, to create a sense in large numbers of people they are being persecuted and attacked at a time when the country is in so much trouble, that's how this thing is fed."
"The question is what is the impact on the viewer?" he continued. "And we know, for example, that people that watch a lot of Fox come away knowing a lot less about important world events. That's a correlation that we know."
Recent polling appears to back up Frum's assertion.
Fairleigh Dickinson University found last month that "some outlets, especially Fox News, lead people to be even less informed than those who say they don’t watch any news at all."
"For example, people who watch Fox News, the most popular of the 24-hour cable news networks, are 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians overthrew their government than those who watch no news at all (after controlling for other news sources, partisanship, education and other demographic factors)," they wrote. "Fox News watchers are also 6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not yet overthrown their government than those who watch no news."
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Total number of LL'ers who "defend" MSNBC and their moronic one-sided on air "personalities":
ZERO.
Total number of LL'ers who "defend" Fox News and their moronic one-sided on air "personalities":
hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha (stops to take a breath) hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha! (too many fucking sheep/parrots to count).
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bysmyle (4535.94) smyle View Channel Send Message
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Fair and Balanced Fair and Balanced Fair and Balanced
Fair and Balanced Fair and Balanced Fair and Balanced
Fair and Balanced Fair and Balanced Fair and Balanced
Blah blah blah, anyone who thinks fox is anything but a propaganda tool has some serious mental defects.
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByZardoz003 (1642.32) 
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im sure fox viewers will now accuse this guy of being part of the liberal conspiracy.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bykiddkidd (579.16) 
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Yes pawns...fight amongst each other while we sneak out the back with all the money...
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByNomadicGod (238.60) NomadicGod View Channel Send Message
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@NomadicGod Was that a quote from GW Bush?
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByZardoz003 (1642.32) 
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@Zardoz003 No, that was part of Reagan's "tickle down" formula.
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByNepean109 (1035.00) 
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A conservative who hates the effect Fox has on conservative values and the conservative electorate - about time!!
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByNepean109 (1035.00) 
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@Nepean109 Frum a conservative?? Try asking a conservative fool.
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByWEEDBENDER (287.20) WEEDBENDER View Channel Send Message
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So a Bush speech writer isn't conservative?
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bydcmfox (31525.86) 
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Too many people are under the delusion that the news is supposed to inform or educate them. The purpose of the news is only to get you to watch the next commercial. If you want to be informed, read a frigging book!
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByDing_Jianwen (204.78) 
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Duh that is a No-brainer. Same is true for most LL'ers
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByRambo33 (153.00) 
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what the fox!
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByBoboShakes (81.80) 
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You can find plenty of examples on both sides. The difference is that it's Fox against everyone else.
Example: MSNBC has NOT done a single story on Obama's 500 billion he helped funnel to Solara (sp).
The answer: KILL YOUR TV (and get your news from LL :-)
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByUSA1 (3796.14) 
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@USA1 you mean besides this one?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45229819/ns/politics/#.TuaVHVa8it8
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bykiddkidd (579.16) 
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@kiddkidd
Yeah, besides that one:-)
Like I said, I don't watch TV
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByUSA1 (3796.14) 
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@USA1
Great.
You don't watch TV but you're perfectly capable of coming up with examples that 'you don't watch'
LOLZ
;-)
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Posted Dec-12-2011 ByGod_Himself (1280.36) 
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Yeah, because TV is the 'only' way to gather this type of information.../facepalm
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByUSA1 (3796.14) 
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@USA1
lol
So, let's just recap:
TV, that you don't watch, is the 'only' way to gather this type of information.
You should run for the GOP mate. Your double-speak is perfect...lol
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Posted Dec-12-2011 ByGod_Himself (1280.36) 
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Sure, Fox news is biased, but I'll give you $1,000,000 to show me a media outlet that ISN'T.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bycswartz (1163.60) 
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@cswartz There's a difference between being biased and just being blatant about it. Either way, MSNBC is the liberal version of fox news. I take neither serious.
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByGeorgeBush (154.60) 
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Frum is Done. Stick a fork in this loser.
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByWEEDBENDER (287.20) WEEDBENDER View Channel Send Message
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Frum does not consider himself a conservative. Conservatives don't consider him one, either.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Byjohn1054 (5506.44)

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@john1054 Doesn't make anything discussed less true.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bystevecore (819.18) stevecore View Channel Send Message
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@john1054
In a Newsweek column, Frum described his political beliefs as follows:
I'm a conservative Republican, have been all my adult life. I volunteered for the Reagan campaign in 1980. I've attended every Republican convention since 1988. I was president of the Federalist Society chapter at my law school, worked on the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal and wrote speeches for President Bush—not the "Read My Lips" Bush, the "Axis of Evil" Bush. I served on t More..
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bykiddkidd (579.16) 
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@kiddkidd
Farther down in the Wikipedia article you quoted from, it describes how Frum founded the group "No Labels". He did that mostly because he was tired of being called out as a liar over that 2006 article where he describes himself as a conservative just before trashing conservatism.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Byjohn1054 (5506.44)

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@john1054 and right on the top of the article he says he is a conservative republican.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bykiddkidd (579.16) 
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@john1054 HE was a speech writer for GWBush - was he not a little bit conservative?
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByNepean109 (1035.00) 
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I remember none of his examples, and I am about as plugged in as it gets...
Something else, besides the truth is at play here. Just not sure what his angle is...
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bywharris (2347.62) 
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@wharris he obviously is a part of a liberal conspiracy.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bykiddkidd (579.16) 
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@kiddkidd
Liberal, that much is obvious.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bywharris (2347.62) 
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@wharris Yeah, must be conspiring against you superior intellect. Sounds like he almost won too.
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByZardoz003 (1642.32) 
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All I am saying is that he is liberal.
I never said anything about a conspiracy.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bywharris (2347.62) 
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@wharris
He was Bush's speech writer for shit sake's.
Posted Dec-12-2011 Bydcmfox (31525.86) 
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@fuzzy620 Would you change your mind if you were showed proof?
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByZardoz003 (1642.32) 
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@fuzzy620 HE IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN, ya knob. Watch it again.
Posted Dec-12-2011 ByNepean109 (1035.00) 
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