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An Argument for Personal Firearms

Found this on teh internet.

It's a well reasoned point of view, worth a read.

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The Gun Is Civilization


Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another:
reason and force.

If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220- pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily
employable.
When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone.

The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes
force from the equation…and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.



Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)
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http://generalnewsgroup.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/the-gun-is-civilization/


Added: Mar-30-2012 Occurred On: Mar-30-2012
By: Vfor
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  • Good post.

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  • Seen this around a while back. It is well said and exactly right. I would post some further information about the evolution of the wording of the Second Amendment, but the computer it was on shit the bed, and it would be in piss poor format if I did (Fs in historical place of S, I don't know how to properly format it for LiveLeak, etc.).

    If I can find it online I'll provide a link here.

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  • you found this on teh internet LMFAO

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  • Well said, Major!

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  • When seconds count, police arrive within minutes.

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  • Major, that is well put and spot on; only fools believe that the populace should be disarmed, as only the law abiding will give up their arms.

    The robber, rapist or murderer doesn’t care about doing these things to you, or the penalties that they might have to face.

    Anyone who would do these things doesn't care about another charge, not that it will matter to you after being robbed, raped or killed.

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  • profound

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  • This is silly.

    My Seventy eight year old mother with parkinson like tremors and weak eyesight cannot handle a gun & is not on equal footing with a 19 year old.
    A gun for her would be a false sense of security.

    The idea that there is only two ways to get people to do things,by force or convincing, is naive.

    Many people around the world & this country do distasteful, objectionable things every day & NOBODY is holding a gun to there heads. Nor are they convinced this is the best opt More..

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    • @Peckerhead "trust me"is the worst way to convince me,and I would rather die making that grab than die lying on the floor with my hands tied behind my back.and nobody is forcing your mother to pack heat

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    • @Peckerhead

      i don't see how people can buy this. espescially a marine should know that guns absolutely don't level anything. or what would they train to fight for?

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    • @Peckerhead You overlook those good samaritans who would protect and (yes give their life) to save granny! Criminals want unarmed prey.
      Also a person is either forced to do something or do so by choice.

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    • @screwnuts it goes without saying that a gun owner trains with the weapon and becomes proficient.

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    • @allank Why are so many debates these days always put in the most extreme terms?

      Is there a reason why you think all muggings lead to abduction & the victims death? As a matter of fact not all thefts are committed with violence.

      If you want to make that grab go ahead...talk is big on the internets.

      How does a gun help with white collar crime, embezzlement,fraud or identity theft where your losses are bound to be many times more than the contents of your pockets...and much more likley.

      More..

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  • this is wrong on so many levels. as a marine he should most definitely know that guns don't level the playingfield. they favor the first attacker and the reckless. plus you need not only to be trained to employ a gun right and save, you also need to be able to move swiftly when a possible danger comes on to you. a granny can't shoot as fast as i can. and so on...

    good thing he got the preliminaries wrong too. reason and force are not the only options we have. there's the possibility to avoid ea More..

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    • @screwnuts

      8 million people in your entire country, culturally homogeneous for the most part, few Africans/Muslims/illegal aliens.

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    • @pachaKamaq

      "...the general forms of courtesy we accept."

      You not only live in a different country, you live in a different world. There are no longer any previously recognized forms of civility, much less 'courtesies' in the U.S., except in small towns and rural areas, if that much.

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    • @pachaKamaq
      You're right!
      They don't seem to get away with as much nonsense in Switzerland, for some reason.

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    • @pachaKamaq @joe prole @Cheapshot911

      so, you agree, that gunlaws don't change anything, but you don't agree that equality and wealth promote security?
      or would you say that the gentlemans arguments actually have a good point?

      as far as i'm concerned, i think this major doesn't have a point. i'm not against guns however, for i love to shoot myself.

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    • @screwnuts Spoken like a true liberal pusscake.

      Try leaving your country for a bit before you start discussing the social impact of weapons in North America.
      We've got teenage kids here in Canada that would shoot your smug attitude right out the back of that bag of shit you call a head.

      Kind of changes your perspective on gun control.

      I really don't know who is worse, right wing gun nuts or pedantic liberal cocksuckers like you.

      the only thing that is clear, is you know Jack and shit about More..

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  • If some “pacifist” society renounced the retaliatory use of force, it would be left helplessly at the mercy of the first thug who decided to be immoral. Such a society would achieve the opposite of its intention: instead of abolishing evil, it would encourage and reward it.

    The Virtue of Selfishness - “The Nature of Government,”
    Ayn Rand.

    EXCELLENT Post!

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