http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18591455
Israel Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial attack: Three held
Three ultra-Orthodox Jewish men have been arrested in Israel, suspected of defacing the national Holocaust memorial with anti-Zionist graffiti.
One of the slogans daubed in paint on the walls of the memorial read: "If Hitler had not existed, the Zionists would have invented him."
The suspects have admitted vandalising the site, a police spokesman said.
Suspicion for the attack had fallen on radical ultra-Orthodox Jews who oppose the creation of the state of Israel.
One of the slogans, all in Hebrew, was signed "world ultra-Orthodox Jewry".
Another read: "Thanks Hitler for the wonderful Holocaust you organised for us. Only thanks to you we got a state from the UN."
A third went: "Honourable government of Poland, stop allowing the Zionists to hold manipulative 'memorial' ceremonies in Auschwitz."
Some ultra-Orthodox Jews believe a Jewish state can be established only after the coming of the Messiah, and that the state of Israel is therefore illegitimate.
A small number of extremists believe the myth that Israel's founders conspired with Hitler to bring about the Jewish state.
In a statement, Yad Vashem Chairman Avner Shalev said: "I believe that it was important to know the identities of those who spray-painted the graffiti. The suspects are extremist ultra-Orthodox Jews, anti-Zionists, who are on the fringes of society, and do not represent the majority who respect the memory of the Holocaust."
Yad Vashem was established in 1953 and commemorates the six million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.
The three suspects are to appear before a Jerusalem court later on Tuesday.
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@1812 I'm not an anti-semite, but the holocaust *was* the main reason for the establishment of Israel the modern state.
Many nations turned away fleeing Jewish refugees after WW2 - in many cases, they had literally nowhere else to go.
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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@hellgremlin
No. IMO the Holocaust was NOT the main reason for the establishment of modern State of Israel
First wave (Aliyah) of Jews to Palestine was in 1882--Hitler was not born yet
Second wave of immigrants was in 1904-Hitler was 15
(There were 5 major waves of immigration)
Balfour Declaration was in 1917-16 years before Hitler rose to power
Hilter rises to power in 1933-Jews in Palestine had already been fighting against the Arabs and Brits to establish a state for 15 years
Jews were More..
Posted Jun-28-2012 Bywargypzy (522.60) wargypzy View Channel Send Message
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I wonder why the BBC didnt mention that the three arrested were from the lunatic fringe group, the Neutara Karta?
These assholes should be kicked out of ISrael!
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByFreejay (4146.26) 
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@Freejay I tried googling that term, with no results - what is Neutara Karta?
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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@Freejay from text:
"The suspects are extremist ultra-Orthodox Jews, anti-Zionists, who are on the fringes of society, and do not represent the majority who respect the memory of the Holocaust."
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byloweyes (1005.20) loweyes View Channel Send Message
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@hellgremlin
No results???
I googled it and got at least 10 pages of links.
Here they are visiting Iran.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-r04SQ97_Q
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByFreejay (4146.26) 
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@loweyes
But no mention they are from the Neturei Karta.
Why?
The BBC knew who they were.
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByFreejay (4146.26) 
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@Freejay An, Neturei Karta, got it.
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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Jews have religious nuts, Christians have religious nuts, Muslims have religious nuts.
Anyone who believes in the fairy tales in a books written by men in the bronze age is nuts imo.
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byloweyes (1005.20) loweyes View Channel Send Message
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Those damn antisemites.
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByUac_mitun_ahau (267.02) Uac_mitun_ahau View Channel Send Message
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@Uac_mitun_ahau I think that would make the government of Israel antisemitic also since Palestinians are Semites too.
Posted Jun-30-2012 Bygivemeadamnname (220.70) 
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religion....LOL !
Semites...Being Anti-Semites...LOL !
this tops everything haha
Posted Jun-28-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.94) 
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@mylostsoul You think only white people do things against their own for money? Or maybe blacks? Or maybe you believe only Jews are pure and would never sell out their own for financial gain.
Maybe you are ignorant of the Zionists who control banks and who use those banks to support both sides in a war as two sides warring is more profitable than two sides at peace.
Maybe it's time to quit being so naive and understand that there are bad Jews too. Hitler's financial backing, it's in the history More..
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByKutKorners (546.90)

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@KutKorners you really put way to much thought into that and read wayyyy to much into my comment
anyways i didn't read what you said
you obviously don't have a sarcasm detector
and i think religion is amusing, along with the whole "anti-semite" label
Posted Jun-28-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.94) 
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@mylostsoul Heh heh yeah...the outraged have invented a term for it, 'self-hating Jews'
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByElegantDecline (2144.58) 
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@ElegantDecline haha
Posted Jun-28-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.94) 
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@KutKorners
You really have no clue.
Most of the bankers are not even Zionists to start with!
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByFreejay (4146.26) 
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Hahaha
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByAli669 (34.60) 
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Self hating Jews? Never saw that before. :P
There's only been, what, five sitcoms...?
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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I've always wondered something about these folks... what is the significance of the hat and outfit? Is there a religious reason why they dress that way, and if so, what is it? Genuinely curious.
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Like the Amish I suppose, They wear what is traditional.
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byloweyes (1005.20) loweyes View Channel Send Message
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@loweyes I'd like to understand the tradition though. I'm trying to google up a proper explanation, but it's difficult.
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@hellgremlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasidic_Judaism#Dress
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byloweyes (1005.20) loweyes View Channel Send Message
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@loweyes Gah... thanks. I guess I missed the obvious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shtreimel
This hat is what I really wanted to know about. Thanks for the heads up.
Posted Jun-28-2012 Byhellgremlin (763.22) hellgremlin Send Message
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You respect the Holocaust by recognizing the truth and admitting to the truth Zionists played a major part in support of the Holocaust and the Nazi government.
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Yeah right
They also go to Iran and shake hands with Ahmadinejad!
YOu wombat!
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByFreejay (4146.26) 
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@1812
I second that, he is a moron with "special needs"
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@Freejay SO you deny Rothchild banks financed Hitler?
The man who ran the Deutsch Bank was a Rothchild stooge. The Bank of England owned by the Rothchilds. The Federal Reserve owned by the Rothchilds.
Yea, the Rothchilds and the industries and banks they owned made no money off Hitler or WWII /fantasyland
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What are you crapping on about now?
Stop trying to deflect, and stick to the topic boy.
Posted Jun-28-2012 ByFreejay (4146.26) 
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