
A Turkish fighter jet crashed into the waters off Syria on Friday, triggering fears of a confrontation between Nato and the Assad regime amid allegations that it had been shot down.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister, summoned his military and intelligence chief on Friday night after the Turkish Air Force lost radio and radar contact with one of its F-4 Phantom fighters during a mission off the Syrian coast.
Officials in Turkey and Syria would not be drawn publicly on the aircraft's fate. But residents in the Syrian city of Latakia, on the Mediterranean coast, claimed to have witnessed an unidentified plane being shot down at the roughly the same time the fighter vanished from radar scenes.
Two Lebanese television stations with close links to government of President Bashar al-Assad also quoted sources in Damascus as saying that it had been shot down by Syrian air defences.
They claimed the aircraft had entered Syrian air space, although Turkish military officials suggested it was over international waters.
In what would amount to an admission of guilt by the Assad regime, Turkish newspapers claimed that Mr Erdogan had received an apology from Syria.
"Syria immediately offered a very serious apology for the incident and admitted it was a mistake," The Habeturk newspaper quoted the prime minister as telling reporters on board a plane taking him back to Turkey from Brazil.
However, after he landed on Friday night, Mr Erdogan appeared to backtrack, saying he could not clarify the exact circumstances in which the plane came down, indicating that he needed to receive a more detailed briefing from senior military staff. He also said he had "no firm information" on a Syrian apology.
While the exact circumstances surrounding the aircraft's disappearance remained far from clear, any indication that it was brought down by Syrian fire could have major international repercussions.
As a member of Nato since 1952, Turkey could call on the alliance to support and perhaps even participate in any response it chooses to make.
It would almost certainly invoke Chapter IV of the Nato treaty, which allows a member to convene an emergency summit of the whole alliance if "the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the parties is threatened".
Turkey reportedly came close to invoking Chapter IV in April after Syrian forces opened fire into its territory, wounding two Turkish nationals and two Syrians at a refugee camp close to the border. It was persuaded not to by the United States.
An accurate picture of what exactly happened could become clearer after Turkish officials were quoted as saying that both pilots were rescued from the Mediterranean after they safely ditched from the stricken aircraft.
Turkey has been at the forefront of regional efforts to oust Mr Assad and has given sanctuary to rebels seeking his overthrow. With thousands of refugees pouring across its borders, it also led calls to impose a buffer zone inside Syrian territory but was rebuffed by Western powers.
Instead, Turkey has become a key conduit for the passage of Saudi and Qatari weapons to the Syrian rebels.
Officials in Ankara have expressed unease that this policy would leave the country vulnerable to Syrian retaliation and some will see yesterday's incident as evidence that their fears have been realised.
The United States gave Turkey strong assurances that it would not leave the country "hung out to dry" should it experience a backlash from Syria, a Western official in Washington told The Daily Telegraph last week.
The Obama administration could now come under strong pressure to deliver on its pledge, despite a deep reluctance in the West to become involved in any military action in Syria.
Turkey is unlikely, however, to be able to invoke Chapter V of the Nato treaty, which determines that an attack on one member should be viewed as an attack on all, because the clause only refers to hostile action taken on European or North American soil.
The incident came as the Syrian government accused its rebel foes of carrying out a "massacre" of Mr Assad's supporters after the emergence of grisly video footage showing more than a dozen bloodied and mutilated corpses.
A pro-opposition human rights group confirmed that rebels were behind the killings, but said that the victims were members of the pro-Assad Shabiha, the feared Alawite militia accused of murdering hundreds of Sunni civilians.
Although the rebels have been accused of atrocities in the past, the latest killings will raise fears that Syria is swiftly becoming locked into a unbreakable cycle of revenge killings and sectarian hatred.
Meanwhile, in a sign that the regime was losing control over its former strongholds, government troops killed at least ten people in Aleppo, Syria's largest city, after opening fire on a demonstrators with heavy machine guns, according to opposition activists.----
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9350341/Downed-Turkish-jet-prompts-fears-of-Syrian-confrontation.html
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Posted Jun-22-2012 By19deltaCAVscout (168.20) 
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this is such bullshit. yea, syria wants to take on nato... that is exactly what they need right now... What a fucking joke this is propaganda if i've ever seen it.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bybigoleboobs (670.14) 
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@bigoleboobs Syria confirmed Saturday that it had shot down a Turkish fighter jet, having opened fired on an "unidentified target" that had entered its airspace, the official SANA news agency reported.
"A military spokesman said the two countries' navies were now cooperating in an operation to find the two missing pilots, the agency reported." From the AP. So my new opinion is that they did shoot it down, and that the turkish plane had violated syria's airspace unidentified. More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bybigoleboobs (670.14) 
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I knew it would be the fucking muzzlim's that started WW3.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByDave556 (1948.86) 
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NATO and the US are doing their best to find an excuse to start bombing Syria (Turkey is part of NATO),Syria were within their rights to shoot down a military aircraft entering their airspace without permission.
The Turkish plane approached at high speed and low altitude,perhaps trying to avoid radar.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bywerdum12 (254.00) 
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Turkey trying to cause shit and start ww2.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byorangepeel (114.30) 
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@IIVXTII but this time, Britain won't have enough money and support to fight off the germans due to illegal immigration.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byorangepeel (114.30) 
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@MB-UK Keep calm and carry on.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByNightCrawler (140.10) 
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the enemy is already landed and spread out all over UK for years
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByH3dgehog (474.50) 
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i smell a mighty rat here.... go look at the map of the world.
syria is next to iraq then iran then afganistan.
lots of talk of going into iran over nukes.
is this a ploy to get control of that entire belt of countries?
it all looks strange based on geography if you look at a map.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByTHOMMO (39.94) 
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turkish always smell like dead rats
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByH3dgehog (474.50) 
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@H3dgehog come lick my turkish ass bitch
Posted Jun-23-2012 Bycaxatay (10.04) 
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ooh my God
It is true what they say
all turkish man are gay
your disgusting ,
well in not suprised
your a muslim after all
Posted Jun-23-2012 ByH3dgehog (474.50) 
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You could have at least used a picture of the correct plane, it was an F-4 Phantom. It's sad to think Turkey has the most powerful air force in the middle east and they still fly Vietnam era fighter jets. Yes they have newer, but why have F-4s for patrol missions?
Posted Jun-22-2012 BySp33dyD3m0n (321.50) 
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Those are RF-4's, recon planes with cameras. Also, in my opinion, a plane is as good as the pilot who flies it
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByXylokopos (10.40) 
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@Xylokopos Well I would hope they would have cameras, because F-4s don't have a gun. I would doubt they would put missiles on a recon plane in this region so a camera is the only opinion. But the picture provided in the story isn't an F-4 or an RF-4. The bends on the wings are wrong and the F-4 doesn't have pylons on the wings.
Posted Jun-22-2012 BySp33dyD3m0n (321.50) 
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Photo shows turkish NF-5's, it's from their aerobatic team. You know, like the Blue Angels, but not nearly like them..lol
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByXylokopos (10.40) 
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@Sp33dyD3m0n
Because, As far as I've learned Janes Defense Magazine, Israelis gave up selling the necessary reconnaissance pod for turkish F-16s. These pods could see 300 miles beyond. Now Turkey ordered similar system to U.S. under Foreign Military Sales, but they don't come yet. So they are using old F-4 Phantoms.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bykarikanijr (21.38) 
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@Xylokopos The F-5 Freedom Fighter is an okay plane, but they are no F/A-18 Super Hornet.
Posted Jun-22-2012 BySp33dyD3m0n (321.50) 
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old old jet ffs not worth the effort
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byanglosaxonwarlord (13607.24) 
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@anglosaxonwarlord That's why they use the old jet. They wanted Syria to take it down so they can start the war. Damn I hate my government. We are fucking puppets.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByTurkishBasterd (54.50) 
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Its a provocation, a false flag, one jet?
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByOrwellian_Society (464.70) Orwellian_Society View Channel Send Message
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Cool. Let's get this party started! Hey Turkey, Syria just made you their little bitch...Do something!
Don't just sit there bleeding with a dumb look on your face, go get some Syrian ass.
****This Message Brought to You as a Public Service Announcement from Liveleakers who never tire of watching Muslims kill other Muslims on Tape.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByFire37Rescue (12181.00) 
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@Fire37Rescue lmao your such a instigator lol
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.24) 
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@Fire37Rescue I don't want this to happen, but if it did, I would enjoy all of the new violent videos to hit LL. Is that bad?
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bybigoleboobs (670.14) 
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no
lol
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByFire37Rescue (12181.00) 
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@mylostsoul
Yes.
lol
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@Fire37Rescue lol
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bymutterfudder (694.58) 
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the un become de-funked when america attacked iraq
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@Ali669
He's a prick, he won't even debate.
He behaves more like a troll.
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@Ali669 Getting ready to be banned again?
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@Ali669 You were banned for mass thumbing down, right? I didn't even know that was a banning offense. I'll have to be more judicious with my thumb downs. Here is thumb up for free.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bykingfordlm (692.36) 
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DOOOOM!!!
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByAUSTINSLACKER (202.50) 
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@Americanalltheway Do you know what you're talking about? I'm asking honestly
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byyourboss (201.50) 
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@Americanalltheway You sound like an American who has seen nothing of this world apart from his own country.
I've actually been to turkey, several times. There are probably just as many cells in the USA. You are talking shit.
Posted Jun-23-2012 Byyourboss (201.50) 
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This is one of those come and go situations.
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Hi ali699 is that you
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