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New Zealand PM: Increased police access to guns inevitable

As a comment I find increased arming of New Zealand police to be a very bad move.

The attached image is of specialist NZ Police deployed when there is a problem. I fully support that.

As a former New Zealander I live in Western Australia where there is a huge divide between the Police and the citizens. The police are armed. The citizens not. This is in contrast to New Zealand where the Police are almost never armed and citizens can carry arms in a reasonable way. The West Australian Police are a separate nation. They are continually hostile to citizens and enforce this with their guns, their tazers, and laws that give them almost unlimited rights to abuse citizens. There is no comeback when the Police rule every activity and the courts are set up to protect them.

The West Australian story is that police guns are used disproportionally and many people who would otherwise have bee

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Added: Dec-13-2010 Occurred On: Dec-13-2010
By: DEADBEEF
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  • Comment of user 'nurdmyth' has been deleted by author (after account deletion)!
    • hate to differ, but small amounts of booze (say one can of fullstrength beer) significantly improve weapons aiming. This is why alcohol is a banned drug in the Olympics. Not because it's dangerous, but because it improves performance.

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    • As a general safety precaution I don't think it wise to mix guns and any amount of alcohol. Just not a good idea. In fact, I won't go hunting or to the range with anybody who I suspect or know has been drinking. I don't trust people.

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  • First they want guns. Then, when that's not enough, they want military style weapons, armored vehicles, and helicopters. After that they kick in peoples doors and take them away in the middle of the night.

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  • Police should never be routinely armed. They are civil servants, not a militia.

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    • Your pish comments have no meaning to me. You're what Hitler described as a "non-human".

      Go conjure up some miracles, then maybe firemen wouldn't need hoses and people wouldn't get burned to death. Oh wait, just a minute, it's your piss filthy god that creates all this pain and suffering anyway, eh?

      You have Westboro loyalty card, ya freak.

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  • You should never allow retards with a superiority complex to have a gun. Especially the rejects from the UK police force who immigrated here and joined the NZ police....

    No guns, no tasers, thanks.



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  • Nz police need to learn to drive before they play with guns

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  • Currnetly when 'Armed' police in New Zealand confront the suspect...the suspect is shot Dead.

    Nearly always a kill shot. Rarely will the suspect survive.

    For some reason they cant seem to shoot to incapacitate?

    Though I agree NZ police should be armed, it would be a better deterent to determined criminals not to take the next step.

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    • thats because there is no such thing as 'shoot to incapacitate'. guns are lethal weapons and when drawn, are always used with the intent to kill the target. to survive being shot is to be considered lucky, not expected.

      if you want to incapacitate someone you use tasers, pepperspray or teargas, not guns.

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    • The Armed Offender Squad - or whatever they're called nowadays almost never fire a shot when called out.

      And it's not true they never miss. The Aramona massacre had multiple police shots fired over some time. The Napier siege ditto - and that ended with suicide.

      And what about the courier who was shot by police by accident in Auckland?

      The arguments for not generally arming police include

      - It creates a barrier between police and citizens
      - The average cop is a lousy shot - even worse becaus More..

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    • Only because the NZ police eat the targets.

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  • when sheep attack.

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