Americans Are Responsible For Horrific Mexican Drug Cartel Killings
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MEXICO (North America) A recent mexican media newspaper cartoon depicting Uncle Sam throwing crates of weapons over the border wall just sums up what mexicans say; the United States is responsible for the humongus supply of shiny new weapons that get to the hands of the drug cartels, it just seems impossible that they could acquire Barret .50 Cal rifles and rocket launchers from local slum dealers. Some cartel members have been killed wearing genuine U.S. marine uniforms and U.S.-army issued boots/belts/holsters.
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Added: May-19-2012
By: Rubicon_Cube
In: Other News
Tags: drug, cartel
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By: Rubicon_Cube
In: Other News
Tags: drug, cartel
Marked as: approved
Views: 3343 | Comments: 171 | Votes: 2 | Favorites: 1 | Shared: 5 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 2
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In all fairness, even in the case of Fast and Furious it was mexicans who brought the guns into mexico. mexicans are being slaughtered by the tens of thousands by the cartels because the mexican government is corrupt and they do next to nothing to elevate themselves from the designation of a narco state. Look at yourselves pendejo, you only have yourselves to blame.
Posted May-19-2012 ByRoccoSantoro (506.20) 
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@RoccoSantoro However the Mexicans are unlucky to a share a border with the US...these are traffickers...no demand for drugs from the US, no traffickers
Posted May-19-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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@ElegantDecline
I suppose that's true, but it's just as true to say if mexicans didn't sell drugs there would be no demand. You can't have one without the other. By your logic oil spills should be blamed on people who fill there cars with gas and that just doesn't make any sense.
Mexicans are dying because other mexicans are murdering them........bottom line.
Posted May-19-2012 ByRoccoSantoro (506.20) 
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@RoccoSantoro well the supply side has been there way before the Mexican cartels.
Cocaine comes from South America, NOT Mexico...and it used to be trafficked in over the Carribean from Columbia etc.
Since those drug routes were dramatically curtailed around ten years ago...like a river, the drug stream has found new routes, primarily the US-Mexico land border. The Mexicans are literally unlucky enough to sat between drug hungry Americans, and the producers in the South.
The problem didn't star More..
Posted May-19-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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@ElegantDecline: The USA is unlucky to share a border with Mexico, I wish we had a Canada on our Southern border.
Mexico is LUCKY to have the USA as a neighbor, without the USA Mexico would lose over 50% of their GDP and most of their jobs, the USA brings wealth to Mexico, Mexico brings crime and 3rd grade educated peasants who balkanize and bankrupt our country.
Posted May-19-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2015.34) 
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@ElegantDecline
The cocaine comes from mexico pal. It might be manufactured in colombia but the last stop before the US is mexico, so that argument is absurd.
If mexico didn't engage in the trafficking of narcotics there would be no blood shed. It baffles me as to why you would cite Calderon as the way mexico has taken responsibility. That was 6 years ago, are you naive enough to believe that the corrupt mexican government and cartels are not to blame for the proliferation of drug trafficking More..
Posted May-19-2012 ByRoccoSantoro (506.20) 
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What a croc of shit. Do you think the Zetas, who are headed by former mexican armed forces personnel, need arms from civilian gunshops here in the USA? Hell no, they buy them from corrupt mexican officials and everywhere else on the worldwide black market. Ditto the Gulf Cartel and all the others. This whole US weapons coming from Joe's gun shop in Milwaukee bullshit is a myth perpetuated by the US authorities hoping to restrict Americans' Second Amendment rights. If gun control doesn't wor More..
Posted May-19-2012 Byericredbeard (275.88) ericredbeard View Channel Send Message
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@ericredbeard That about sums it all up.
Posted May-19-2012 Byonly1mossberg (123.58) 
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They think Holder is Uncle Sam?
Posted May-19-2012 ByRuffus (4311.44) 
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@Ruffus Nice!
Posted May-19-2012 BySp33dyD3m0n (321.50) 
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I really won't argue that one. But that's on Obama and Holder, fully and completely. Look!!! Over there!!!! Guns are bad!!!! Ban em' all!!! They'll be held accountable one can only hope. Ridiculous idea.
Posted May-19-2012 ByMarkstars (213.30) Markstars View Channel Send Message
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If their plan to stop drug violence is to blame the U.S. I wish them luck.
Posted May-19-2012 Bydog64 (430.96) 
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This article lacks critical thinking.
You blame the consumer AND supplies without placing ANY blame on the consumer and supplier SOUTH of the Rio Grande.
Face reality: Mexicans are to blame for this violence, no one is FORCING them to be greedy or power hungry. If their culture had better values the extra influx of $BILLIONS into their economy would make Mexico a better place but it doesn’t.
Canadians smuggle high grade marijuana into the USA and no heads are chopped off in Toronto and no More..
Posted May-19-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2015.34) 
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@Moore Slayer I think the cartels are more concerned with control of the cocaine trade which doesn't come through canada
Posted May-19-2012 Bybazeret2 (223.96) 
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@bazeret2: That’s false, Mexico smuggles tons of low grade marijuana, heroin, even meth into the USA.
I live in Southern California and have relatives in Mexico; I also have friends who work for the DEA and Arizona attorney general’s office so I know allot about the problem.
Posted May-19-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2015.34) 
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@Moore Slayer We thank you very much for our medicianal grade marijuana, it's a very nice partnership we have. We only go to Mexico to get the downtown-brown shwag.
As far as Switzerland, they actually give the men guns because everyone has to join the military when they come of age. The reality is that they are given 10 bullets a year for training purposes only at the range. They cannot buy ammunition and have it at the house, so technically they have an ammunition ban. Other than that, top no More..
Posted May-19-2012 BySp33dyD3m0n (321.50) 
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@Moore Slayer
Ahem... some precisions are required here, because you make it look as if anyone would have a gun in Switzerland: in that country, every adult male and female, who is enrolled in the army has an assault rifle in his home indeed, but it doesn't belong to him or her until he or she actually buys it at the very end of his or her military obligations. Then, it is permanently modified as not to be fully automatic. Moreover, using these guns outside of an approved shootin More..
Posted May-19-2012 ByValerie2007 (755.32) 
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@Sp33dyD3m0n
You are somewhat right and somewhat wrong. Ammunition (50 bullets) was provided in a sealed tin can (see a picture here) to every Swiss soldier (male or female) to keep at home, but it was strictly forbidden to open it. It was only meant to be used for self-defense in case of war mobilization, for the journey from home to the place of call. However, when they go to the shooting range, they can buy a More..
Posted May-19-2012 ByValerie2007 (755.32) 
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Without american demand there is no Mexican supply
Posted May-20-2012 ByBarry-the-Zealot (56.60) Barry-the-Zealot View Channel Send Message
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@Barry-the-Zealot
that is a fantasy
Posted May-22-2012 BySmarty_Pants (59.60) Smarty_Pants View Channel Send Message
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@Barry-the-Zealot Without Mexican supply there is no American demand.
Posted May-22-2012 BySalmonellalover629 (542.40) 
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Yeah right, you think the druggies would say 'ok no more cheap drugs, im going to stop now'
Posted May-23-2012 ByEnzian (70.60) 
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they'r use crystal meth or some similar mind rotting shit
Posted May-23-2012 ByDigital_Rasta (48.40) 
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@Enzian Who cares what they say? The Mexican cartels are the ones beheading their own people. Americans aren't doing that and to say that its America's fault is to exculpate the murderers. It's like saying the wife beater isn't at fault. Cliche anti-Americanism is the root of this ridiculous and boring argument.
Posted May-23-2012 BySalmonellalover629 (542.40) 
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"Americans Are Responsible For Horrific Mexican Drug Cartel Killings"
Troll much?
Posted May-19-2012 ByZardoz003 (1572.22) 
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@Zardoz003 American banks laundering drug money.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
Posted May-20-2012 ByFantom (1.10) 
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Blame, blame, blame. Let's just drop a fusion bomb and be done with them.
Posted May-19-2012 ByIron Sights (179.10) 
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I bet if the Mexican government were to choose between thousands of weapons and the immediate return of millions of illegal immigrants, they would gladly take the weapons. Until Americans are actually pulling those triggers, greedy Mexican scumbag killers are responsible for all the violence in Mexico. And let's not conveniently ignore the massive influx of firearms from south of Mexico as well as the Mexican military itself. "Blame the pinche gringos and they'll send us millions more do More..
Posted May-19-2012 BypachaKamaq (1197.60) 
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lol
just as donkeys are responsible for donkey flu.
Posted May-19-2012 BySpeckFettGulag (1116.50) 
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Too easy to blame the US for your shit.
The thing is that in the US, unlike any country in the world, war weapons are in free trade, alright ? In every countries of the world, with a working state and a working legal system, war weapons are forbidden to civilians, it's a monopole of police and armed forces. Some countries totally forbid firearms (Japan), some others only allow collection and hunting weapons (France and most of Europe).
What does that mean ? Means that when you have American w More..
Posted May-21-2012 Byolifaxe (160.50) 
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We can do a free trade, you take back your illegals in our prisons, and we'll take back any weapons you find.
Posted May-20-2012 Byplokiju (887.50) 
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@plokiju I like your style, you got Moxie!
Posted May-20-2012 Bygivemeadamnname (207.80) 
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@plokiju Best idea yet!
Posted May-21-2012 Bytipsypyro (574.04) tipsypyro View Channel Send Message
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Theres no denying that we are the reason they have guns....but the poverty (which is the main reason people join cartels) is Allin Mexico....so is the corruption. But what about the human smuggling, the kidnapping for ransom, or the extortion of local business done by the cartels......I suppose that is our fault as well?
Posted May-19-2012 ByBthor420 (831.30) 
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@Bthor420 Of course not, but the cartel's became so powerful in recent years due to the new drug routes to satisfy US demand...if Mexico wasn't near the US then this wouldn't be happenning.
The responsibility is shared...
Posted May-19-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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It def is shared. And I think by my comment you can tell that. But Mexico isn't wanting to SHARE the responsibility, they want to push it on us
Posted May-19-2012 ByBthor420 (831.30) 
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@Bthor420 What can they do? The demand and consumption of the illegal drugs is in the US, thus surely the main burden of responsibility is now on the US to either stop consuming the drugs or legalise them...
The Mexicans have declared war on the cartels, put the army on the streets of cities that were often pretty peaceful places like Monterrey, thousands have been killed...they're doing their bit, and have to live through this every day
I can't see there being any military/police solution to More..
Posted May-19-2012 ByElegantDecline (2130.98) 
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@ElegantDecline
Why don't you come over here and be our president then if you're so smart. It's a little more complicated than that. But maybe you should worry about the shithole that England has become.
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So because of some other uncivilized fucks who don't know how to act, we know have to go out of our way?! Do you know why these cartels started to up the extortions and the kidnappings? Because they are losing so much money. Why are they losing s much money? Because we started manning the border s bit better an because Calderon started to cracks down on the cartels. . So once we legalize drugs or whatever, then the the extortion and kidnappings will really skyrocket.(which have More..
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