
By Judy Bachrach
I’ve always sort of wanted to know the definition of a third-world nation, and how such a nation compares to other countries in loftier categories. This is because for one truly terrible year I lived in a third-world country—at least the United States State Department bestowed that epithet on it—and during that entire time, although I was allowed to make (genteel, sympathetic, clucking) references to the “third world” in which I was stuck and its many problems, I was not permitted to describe the United States, not even once, as a “first-world nation.”
“Calling us first world makes you sound elitist,” I was informed by American embassy personnel on the rare occasions I was able to talk to them about this issue over the phone (that’s because the phones in that country basically never worked), or even in person (because public transportation was almost nil).
Essentially, I was to discover, the category “first world” had been dropped down the memory hole of prescribed diplo-talk. As had “second world,” for that matter, because “second world” meant Communist. So there was absolutely no rational means of comparing nations, their economies, and their prospects, and one was left only with the worst, most enfeebled category at one’s disposition. It was like playing Jeopardy! in the sure expectation of winning zero cash.
But there are, it seems, certain hardcore definitions of what it means to be a first-, second-, or third-world country. These are readily available on a helpful website, which quotes the Encyclopedia of World Geography. Unlike the State Department, it is not afraid to use the words “first world” and “second world” as points of comparison.
A third-world nation, it turns out, is “generally categorized as poor with unstable governments.” A key factor, we are told, is “the lack of a middle class—with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class, and a very small elite upper class controlling the country’s wealth.”
Also: “Most third-world nations have a very large foreign debt.”
Now, let’s examine all this. Last year, the United States had over $14 trillion in debt—$4.4 trillion of itheld by foreign governments, which certainly sounds “very large” to me. China, once considered a second-world country, currently owns about $892 billion of American debt; and Hong Kong, which is basically part of China these days, has about $138 billion in US securities. Iran, on the other hand, has only around $13.5 billion in external debt; and Ecuador almost as much. So who among these countries would we qualify as third-world?
What about poverty, another big indicator of third world–dom? Two years ago, 43.6 million Americans were categorized as poor, up from 39.8 percent a year earlier. Even worse: About 19 million Americans now live in extreme poverty. Meanwhile, according to the Los Angeles Times, the number of millionaire US households has climbed 15 percent in one year—to 4.7 million. (Quote from Larry Mishel, president of the Economic Policy Institute in Washington, DC: “The recession is going to end up accentuating the inequalities of income and wealth…”). What he means is: the middle class is becoming ever-smaller. What he also means is that a tiny elite seems to be controlling much of US wealth.
And now let’s get to that last indicator of third world status: by which I mean unstable government. Let’s imagine a country where the House Speaker walks out on debt ceiling negotiations. Where the president openly complains that this same legislator refuses to return his calls. Where nothing is safe any longer, and no one knows when or if a job/corporation/bank/state government is going to dissolve. Or a once all-powerful nation is about to default.
Now that’s what I call third-world.----
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http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/judy-bachrach/has-america-become-third-world-nation

By: MB-UK
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Eveyone that believe this shit should GTFO.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byonepercent (719.00) 
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@onepercent okay
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bycheck2check (120.32) 
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@check2check
welll....
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waiting for oBama to hand out airline tickets to LIBERIA ?
true africans can go back and tell them how ard it was being "an american"
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByAiredale (2622.96) 
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@onepercent
stupid statistics!
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByZota (213.44) Zota View Channel Send Message
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@Airedale im more american than you can imagine, 100% of my ancestors were on this land before you europeans and spaniards figured out the world wasnt flat. i hope you are proud of living on stolen land
Posted Jul-30-2012 Bycheck2check (120.32) 
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Honestly I can say that if I lived in the US i would be looking at relocation options if obummer gets back in.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bymanontherun111 (534.94) 
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@manontherun111 I wish I could vote up your post :(
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byxpoc (41.30) 
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@xpoc You are almost there D:
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bymanontherun111 (534.94) 
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@xpoc Here you go +1!!
Posted Jul-29-2012 BySplitAtomsSoul (4799.50) 
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@manontherun111
Thanks all! ^^
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byxpoc (41.30) 
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even a designated "poor" American has access to the internet and can post on LL crap like ur whiny screed - comparing the legal civil activities of the USA government to the chaos of a truly third world nation is absurd
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bychronecro (180.70) 
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@chronecro “the lack of a middle class—with impoverished millions in a vast lower economic class, and a very small elite upper class controlling the country’s wealth.”
you disagree with that indicator ?
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByOthman (285.84) 
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@Othman There will be a new name for what we're living in the history books. Some sort of hybrid.
Posted Jul-29-2012 BySinglecoilsnap (615.60) 
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@Othman It's a real shame the USA is so polarised between right and left and the polrisation/gulf between the classes with a shrinking middle class is a by product of the clowns in American politics.
It's also because there are too few with far too much money/influence. Many politicians play ball with this.
I largely agree with your statement.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byyourboss (202.40) 
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You want to fix this country? Stop all the fucking IMPORT of cheap garbage, buy only American made, and watch the economy take off. Business will not only rehire, new ones will be created.
The cost of living and wages need to be brought closer together if the middle class is to ever return.
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByGradySizematters (475.92) 
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Lol. We're not a third world country. That's absolute nonsense.
By the way, you want to help the middle class? Institute tort reform to make healthcare cheaper, stop federal subsidization of college loans so families don't have to save so much to send their kids to college, and stop taxing them so much for pointless, wasteful govt programs.
We aren't a third world nation, but we need serious change...and it starts with a return to REAL conservatism.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bycswartz (1143.40) 
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like the U.K is any better, the entire structure of the country rests on a massive welfare state
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bygolem (1771.72) golem View Channel Send Message
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@golem And is controlled by Islam.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byfotoman4u2 (3446.50) 
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@golem ignore fotoman.
he keeps preaching the same ignorant rhetoric spoken by a lot of dumbass right wing americans who thing the UK is islams second home.
they'd do themselves a huge favour worrying more about their own country.
standard of living in britian and western europe is better than in the USA because of the free healthcare and education system.
USA thinks it's number one but certainly doesn't provide and treat it's citizens as if they were
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byyourboss (202.40) 
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@yourboss
Western Europe has a significantly lower per capita GDP than America, the U.K is a glabal Islamic terrorist base, it was official policy in the 90's to offer Jihadists sanctuary, and most of their major cities such as london, manchester have vast Islamic populaces.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bygolem (1771.72) golem View Channel Send Message
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@golem Standard of living; I fancy the health and education system over the US any day. I think a lot of people would consider this a better standard of living....specially those millions of Americans who aren't provided health care without insurance (which is only a discount in the USA anyway), despite living in the worlds sole super power.
Pretty ridiculous situation.
As for England being an Islamic state; this isn't accurate. We have a small percentage of Indians/Pakistanis in the UK, but More..
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byyourboss (202.40) 
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hispanics don't bother me, they don't try to impose their taco worshipping diety onto me
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bygolem (1771.72) golem View Channel Send Message
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The death of the middle class is greatly exaggerated. There are those who obsess about wealth disparity. It's quite the topic for those who use the government as a social engineering tool to rob Peter to pay Paul. Those labeled as "poor" in the U.S. have on average 2 color televisions, 30% of which are flat screen, cell phones, microwaves and a host of conveniences that 60 years ago were unthinkable. Don't confuse cultural squalor with poverty. Those britches aren't below their butts b More..
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByYukon6400 (971.62) Yukon6400 View Channel Send Message
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Wishful thinking from a jealous foreigner...
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByMartyr_Machine (435.66) Martyr_Machine Send Message
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@Martyr_Machine
"Has America Become a Third-World Nation?"
under oBama?? not yet
hmmmmm....
four more years of oBamanation and we will have to review why 25% unemployment rate is good for such a welfare state of his making
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByAiredale (2622.96) 
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@Airedale
Most people on social programs since the great depression.
That is all the evidence anyone needs.
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByMartyr_Machine (435.66) Martyr_Machine Send Message
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comparing the health system in america to some much lesser economically developed nations holds some water when you consider that the USA health care system is absolutely terrible.
western europes very high standard of free healthcare gives their populace a standard of living better than most americans
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byyourboss (202.40) 
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@yourboss Yet the wealthy from Europe, India, Asia, Middle East come to america to have major surgeries. America has the best health system in the world. The system may be corrupt but the healthcare is the best.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byrussiancrashdummy (31.50) 
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@russiancrashdummy Yep best healthcare money can buy. Unfortunately, most Americans don't have enough money for it.
Posted Jul-31-2012 ByAnonyville (225.40) Anonyville View Channel Send Message
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Wishful thinking by those that seem to think that America's downfall would inherently prop up their status in the world, thus regaining what was lost. Such a ignorant worldview that is.
Sorry, doomsayers have been prognosticating our doom and gloom for many decades. Guess what, we're still here. Deal with it!
PS Stupid and ridiculous image and title. Poster must be butthurt.
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByBuzzBuster (133.92) 
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@BuzzBuster
I've seen the uploader refer to America as a "sh|thole" in other posts. It seems he'll embrace any idiotic BS, so long as it denigrates us.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byjafll (1000.94) 
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The true nature of the English reveals itself here on LL. No wonder the Scots, Walsh and Irish hate them so.
I think if more Americans cared to see the Poms for what they really are we certainly wouldn't think of them as our "friends."
The truth is that most Americans couldn't give a shit about them...and that probably irks them more than anything else.
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByBuzzBuster (133.92) 
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Must be a leftist hugo chavez oBama democrat
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByAiredale (2622.96) 
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Its not yet, but its getting there. And if you vote Republican OR Democrat, you will only hasten our doom.
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByFlash_Back (651.96) Flash_Back View Channel Send Message
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Man fuck you
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByIlluminat3d (265.00) 
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Man, Judy Bachrach needs to look at actual third world countries before she decided to try to edgy with her article.
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByWingSP117 (1295.46) 
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@WingSP117
^^^^ This
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByTanngrisnir3 (358.94) Tanngrisnir3 View Channel Send Message
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No it's not. Atleast not yet. Vote for Obama if you want it to be.
Posted Jul-29-2012 Byticklemygooch (158.00) 
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If we started killing all the dead beats off and those without jobs, soon eveyone would be employed and taking care of their biz.
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByAhahuimamakamakua (136.34) 
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@Ahahuimamakamakua .....they have a plan like that its called privatized prison's
Posted Jul-29-2012 Bylizatrainer (955.40) lizatrainer View Channel Send Message
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No shit huh, you're on to something there buddy
Posted Jul-29-2012 ByAhahuimamakamakua (136.34) 
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