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Hi LLers.

My heart has been grieving because of the death of little children by the hands of that deranged kid in Connecticut.

I've been through many wars in Africa, but I've never experienced the deliberate massacre of innocent kids up to this time.

There has been many theories regarding how such kind of incidents can be minimized or even stopped. Many people have called for the arming of school teachers, the provision of at least 1 policeman in every school, and some have even called for the arming of school children.

One important fact that people bypass is that most of these recent shootings/massacre have been perpetuated by seemingly harmless, intelligent, rich (or middle class) people. You'd expect that these kind of people would have better access to mental healthcare because of their financial status (or their parents'), but the reverse have been the case.

On the side, I RESPECT gangbangers 100% more than I respect these shooters because gangbangers almost never intentionally shoot at innocent people, they shoot at rival gangbangers.

Well, i've been doing a lot of thinking, trying to deduce a way or theory on how we can stop shameless acts like these from reoccurring. Unfortunately, I've been falling short.

As MATURED LLers, can we have a MATURE discussion on how we can reduce such incidents. As you comment, please be respectful, and do not curse. Just say what you have to say and reply to others appropriately.

THANK YOU!


Added: Dec-15-2012 Occurred On: Dec-15-2012
By: African_living_in_USA
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  • "I've been through many wars in Africa, but I've never experienced the deliberate massacre of innocent kids up to this time." I hope you understand why I find this statement comical. I guess you haven't been to the Congo, Sudan, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, or any other country that has literally seen tens of thousands of children deliberately kidnapped, raped, or murdered.

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    • @The_linguist
      I have the same reaction too.

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    • @The_linguist

      i didn't say it doesn't or has never happened. I said I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT.

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    • @The_linguist I reacted to that sentence too. But I think the point is that while children suffer in WAR in Africa, it is not very common for the whole point to be the killing of children. In africa it is either intrumental in terrorism, or incidental because of the overall war situation. This massacre here is seemingly for no reason. Ergo, the problem seems to be because of mental illness more than anything else.

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  • You have to look at what has changed in recent years that has created this epidemic:
    1- Over prescribing of psycho active medications coupled with wrong and misguided psycho therapies. Combination of these two factors by themselves guarantee a zombie like population.
    2- Extreme fear inducing media propaganda. The media is in constant war with some group and try to justify these wars. They accomplish this by creating fear and sense of imminent danger in people. Now given mental status of many More..

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  • Very, very sad. How does someone become so desensitized that he can kill a child in cold blood? It shows the stress our people and country are enduring these past five years. It's not about the guns, it's about the crazies. Saying this massacre is about guns like saying the 911 attack was about airplanes.

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    • @nomadlife

      All murders are wrong. I don't support the killings of babies, whether in Pakistan, USA, Syria or Libya

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    • @nomadlife They are the children of Terrorist targets, or the children on those who gave them sanctuary. Tough shit. Don't invite a target into your house.

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  • Either you live like you're free and deal with the horrible blips that being a free society allows or you live like a federal prison where you are constantly going through a checkpoint, showing ID, being searched, etc..

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  • Short answer... you can't.

    If someone is determined to do something, either right or wrong... they will find a way. It's not a gun legislation problem... it's a society problem.

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  • You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

    It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
    people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. More..

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  • "...gangbangers almost never intentionally shoot at innocent people"

    Dude, you're sadly misinformed. Happens daily across the country. Innocent bystanders, random people for the fun of it, and even targeted victims as a requirement for gang membership.

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  • I wouldn't be so eager to respect gang bangers , they open fire at rival gangs without any concern for innocent lives that may end due to their shitty aim .i'd be willing to bet that More kids have died from stray bullets fired by gang bangers.. Then there's the deliberate recruitment of kids into gangs ...

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  • What do you need to know?
    1st -- The left-leaning politicians and media-whores were immediate in their condemnation of guns and calling for gun control before knowing any facts of the shooter or situation. Therefore, the agenda is already there and they are looking for anything to attach their agenda to. To them, guns are evil, not people. It is much easier to blame an inanimate object than to look for personal responsibility.

    2nd, every "great" movie is about death, shooting, se More..

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    • @davidlamb12

      Invoking the left in issues like this shows how ignorant America is becoming.

      "A city divided among itself cannot stand"

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    • @African_living_in_USA Well, I'm not in America, but have a keen interest in American politics. The response of the left is important to observe as to how it relates to actually solving the problem of these kinds of incidences. Those who ignore the communist-left, will be steamrolled by it. It has happened repeatedly in history, as you yourself should know, being from Africa.

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  • A lot of people are asking 'why?'. Because there are sick people out there that have anger issues and want attention. Media gives them exactly that for days on end. And they do that because people repeatedly tune in and bump their ratings. The media has a big part to do with these mass killings.

    Psychiatrist, Dr. Park Dietz, explains how the attention given to the killings and the killer themselves is counter-productive. "Every time we have intense saturation coverage of a mass murder, we More..

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  • It starts when a child is taught good manners and respect for others , it doesn't totally solve the problem , but it's a start.

    The children today are lacking in these basic principles , that no doubt the majority of parents are doing their best to teach them , but they are outnumbered by all the external influences out there and it shows.

    The media in all it's forms , TV , movies , videos , music , video games , sports , to name a few , are all complicit in the moral decay of our society in More..

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    • @RustRocket

      You're right. we need to bring back morals and respect to our society.

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    • @RustRocket I remember the first time I heard the term teabagging I was totaly shocked. When I was young if ANYONE had done that to me or any of my friends we would have knocked every tooth out of their head! I know it's a fucked up world when this any other stuff that would make a maggot gag is done as a "Joke". Moral decay is right.

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    • @marc1921
      I am disgusted with the Lberal Democrats for mocking a beloved act of love and affection by the gay males of the world. It is disgraceful the way they insult th fags by mocking their behavior.

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    • @marc1921

      That term does conjure up disturbing images!

      Times have changed , I hardly recognize this country anymore!

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    • @grunt

      Well , personally , I myself cannot embrace the gay lifestyle , I like women , always have.

      But , I on the other hand , am not a judge or a jury , it is not my place to tell people how they should live their lives.

      I say live and let live.

      And carry oneself with dignity and respect for themselves , and others , especially when in public.

      Public displays of affection can be subjective , and it can easily encroach upon other peoples morals and ethics.

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  • This is why we NEED security with GUNS to possible stop the perp before he shots someone. This has gone too far. It's time to arm teachers,upstanding citizens,and all who will stop these kind of nuts before we have something like this again.

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  • You can't move away from the issue of gun control when discussing this matter, but there's yet a much more important topic.
    As much as people hate Michael Moore, he made a good point in Bowling for Columbine: it's not guns alone that make people go crazy (he shows Canada as an example), it's a culture that praises violence.
    Young people see more violence through mass media than through their own eyes. How many people today have not watched a murder on television huh?
    The key is to stop mixing vi More..

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  • @ African_living_in_USA

    an africant in america lol. i love it. so anyway, you make a rather interesting claim that i quoted for you. canya explain it for me bubbaman?
    canya explain how you've seen so much war w/o any children being harmed?
    did you do battle in a "child free zone"?

    "I've been through many wars in Africa, but I've never experienced the deliberate massacre of innocent kids up to this time."

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  • Here's the best solution. Each child receives, upon birth, a fairly large bullet proof box. Now these boxes will be loaded into modified school buses and moved through out the school via crane. This will protect our children 99.9% of the time. The child would be "hatched" at the age of 18.

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  • BOTTOM LINE There is NO WAY to prevent these incidents from happening. There isn't 1, or 10 simple cures. They are going to happen no matter what laws or changes that are made. Only thing we can do, is equip people with the tools needed to stop the incident once it starts.

    Hundreds of laws on drugs, Billions spent. We still have a drug problem.

    Thousands upon thousands of regulations and building codes. We still have house fires.

    Billions spent on research/development. Thousands of t More..

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  • Still chewed up. Have no answers.

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  • sorry about the language. i want to kill myself so i can find this cunt in hell and kill him again.
    What filthy fuck would destroy so many lives?
    those lives lost and living are ruined.
    My love and heart goes out to the families of those that have lost loved ones. We will not be putting up a christmas tree this year in respect for the children whose lives were cut too short.

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    • @DirtyUncleBerty

      6 months? We have had a few in the last 6 months...I give it a month, tops. And I am being dead serious

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  • African_living_in_USA

    “I RESPECT gangbangers 100% more than I respect these shooters”

    I have seen your previous racist touchy feely remarks in previous post. You are as relevant as the black voting bloc you see standing in line for hours for free shit. I guess posting this gives you a sense of importance, you have no shame “which is par for the course with your kind”.

    "Well, I've been doing a lot of thinking," now there is a reach.

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    • @cajunmojo

      Oi! take it easy. I was just trying to portray my deep emotional hatred regarding the scums that shoot kids. I mean if you have to shoot anyone, at least shoot your enemy, not innocent people

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  • The common fact between the Arizona shooter, the Colorado shooter, the Portland mall shooter, and the Connecticut school shooter is they are all Pothead loony weirdo Obama voters.
    Registered Democrats are too irresponsible to be allowed guns.

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    • @grunt This is another reason why you country is going down the drain. He did it! No he did! You idiots are all on the same boat.

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    • @obese one cannoli

      Sorry brother, hit the wrong tab, meant to thumb that comment up.

      PS: truly sorry to read about your loss as well.

      Best of luck to you.

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    • @obese one cannoli
      You better be the first one in line to surrender them when Obama orders them turned in.

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  • Well, as for the gangbangers, the mayor of Chicago was calling on them to stop shooting children just a couple months ago. They have 30+ people killed every single weekend. Those guys are shooting into crowds, into houses, or firing wildly and hitting children. There's also the fact that gangbangers keep getting younger and are kids themselves, which are shooting each other.

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