ee stings killed as many in UK as terrorists, says watchdog
Bee stings kill as many people in Britain as terrorist attacks do, according
to a report by a Government watchdog who claims the risk from extremists has
fallen “markedly” in recent years.
By
Martin Beckford, Home Affairs Editor
6:20AM BST 28 Jun 2012
David Anderson said that no one has even been injured by an Islamist in this
country for more than two years, while the number of convictions has dropped
to a “handful”.
As a result he suggested that ministers could relax some anti-terror laws
without endangering public safety, such as by allowing terror suspects to
apply for bail or making it harder to ban certain groups.
Mr Anderson, a barrister who serves as the Independent Reviewer of Terrorism
Legislation, also congratulated the Coalition for scrapping tough stop and
search powers and halving the maximum detention time for suspects to 14 days.
But he added that the “almost incessant” creation of new legislation since
9/11 has left counter-terrorism laws “bitty, messy” and hard to understand.
His optimistic view of the domestic security situation contrasts with that
described by the head of MI5 earlier this week. Jonathan Evans, the Director
General of the Security Service, warned that the Arab Spring has spawned a
new generation of British terrorists while cyber attacks are damaging
companies in the “real world”.
In
his annual report, published on Wednesday, Mr Anderson wrote: “Whatever
its cause, the reduction of risk in relation to al-Qaida terrorism in the
United Kingdom is real and has been sustained for several years now.”
He said the situation has improved “markedly” since the middle of the last
decade, when Britain suffered the atrocity of 7/7 as well as the failed 21/7
attacks and the foiled fertiliser bomb and airline liquid bomb plots.
The watchdog said no one has been injured by a terrorist in this country since
May 2010 when the Labour MP Stephen Timms was stabbed in his constituency
surgery by Roshonara Choudhry, while there was not a single al-Qaida attack
in Europe throughout 2011.
He pointed out that last summer the threat level in Britain was lowered from
severe to substantial, while the same year saw the deaths of Osama Bin Laden
and Anwar al-Awlaki.
There was “only one” serious conviction of a terrorist in a British court,
that of a British Airways IT specialist, while terrorism arrests fell to 121
in the year to March 2011, “by far” the lowest number since the Twin Towers
fell.
Discussing the suggestions that the threat from terrorism is over-estimated,
Mr Anderson wrote: “During the 21st century, terrorism has been an
insignificant cause of mortality in the United Kingdom. The annualised
average of five deaths caused by terrorism in England and Wales over this
period compares with total accidental deaths in 2010 of 17,201, including
123 cyclists killed in traffic accidents, 102 personnel killed in
Afghanistan, 29 people drowned in the bathtub and five killed by stings from
hornets, wasps and bees.”
He added that the threat is sometimes “exaggerated for political or commercial
purposes”, but warned against complacency and said that terrorists would
inflict more death, injury and fear if permitted.
Mr Anderson said the Home Secretary currently has “extraordinarily wide
discretion” to proscribe groups believed to be involved in terrorism, and
that sometimes organisations are banned as a “cheap” way of giving a
“propaganda” victory to a foreign government.
He claimed that such bans can have a “chilling effect” on communities who then
fear even to hold meetings or display their flags, and raised the prospect
that bans on groups should lapse after two years. However he also added that
far-right organisations could be outlawed as well as ones linked to al-Qaida.
Mr Anderson also said it is hard to justify the total ban on terror suspects
applying for bail, given that even subjects of deportation cases and alleged
murders and rapists can do so.
In a strong criticism of Labour’s tough anti-terror laws, he said the wide
power given to police to stop and search people and vehicles was the “single
greatest focus of resentment among Muslims” and did not lead to a single
conviction.
The watchdog said he had not found much “nostalgia” for the now-scrapped power
among police, and would himself not lament its demise.
“There is always a political risk in scaling back powers designed to protect
the public. By taking that step, the Coalition Government is to be
congratulated for delivering on its rhetoric and making a genuine
‘correction in favour of liberty’.”
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Its the Bees wearing Burkas you need to beware of
Posted Jul-6-2012 Bytugpilotsmiffy (92.24) 
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Who is going to defend us from pc, left wing judges?These dickheads, think they are the guardians ,of some sacred holy cow,that is justice.The thought that they may release a person,and that person may go on to maim and kill people,doesent interest them in the fucking slightest.We are seen by these twats as fuckwits,not worthy of a second thought.So long as justice is seen to be done,this is their only concern.
Posted Jul-6-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (605.52) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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That's comforting to know that the 52 deaths that occurred during the 7/7/07 London bombings are analogous to bee sting deaths.
Posted Jul-6-2012 Byrakkasans (234.38) 
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@rakkasans
is it also comforting to know that the police were running drills on that very same morning for the very same scenario that played out?? and then come in and say give up all your liberties or stuff like this will happen all the time. and the exact same goes for 9/11 here in the states.
Wake Up America!!! before its too late...
Posted Jul-6-2012 Byjake3223 (61.20) 
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What a joke. Of course terrorism in the UK is way down because the IRA has gone by way of the dodo. But Islamic extremists immigrating into the UK which are being protected by the government, is a threat. Allow them to keep coming, and you will all be sorry.
Hardly any of the UK cops are armed. They are ill-equipped to handle an active terrorist attack. The government out there is so afraid of offending foreigners, they take away the rights of their own citizens to accommodate these immigr More..
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByArmed24-7 (153.70) Armed24-7 View Channel Send Message
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YOU MUST NOW BAN BEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted Jul-6-2012 Bydietcokesucks (997.90) 
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This is now an intelligence war. Intelligence wars don't need to "put the frighteners" on people to keep them docile; so can we have our freedom and liberties back please, and damn the terrorists!
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByCargeLock (2080.42) 
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so their logic is "hey, whatever we've been doing for the last couple years is working. looks like a good time to stop". wtf? are these ppl retarded?
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByThunderscratch (388.66) Thunderscratch View Channel Send Message
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YEAH! Because the UK authorities stop a SHIT LOAD of terrorist attacks......
They dont go around swatting bees....
Stupid liberals....
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByReconmarine (32.50) 
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How many terrorist attacks have killed people this year in the UK? Wait let me count them all! Er none. Thats right 0 zilch. More chance of being killed by a Giraffe!
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByChris6900 (1335.30) 
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Don't mess with the GLA (Giraffe's Liberation Army) They are some bad ass mofo's!
Posted Jul-6-2012 Byadelanto (38.08) 
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If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound?
If no murder victim has ever stepped forward and identified his murderer does it mean there has never been a murder in the world?
Just cause there are no death from terrorist attacks dont mean they stopped attacking it just means we are doing a better job of preventing succesful terrorist attack
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByTEXAS HOLDEM123 (9048.10) 
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@MB-UK Yep, suspect there's a competency issue at play here rather than intent...
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByElegantDecline (2143.08) 
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FFS. Al QaiBeeDa is not an issue.
tough on honey..tough on the causes of honey.
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByGlennon (33.60) Glennon View Channel Send Message
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Proof that taking the fight to them is paying off.
Posted Jul-6-2012 Bytarzan (48.12) 
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Train the Bees to sting the terrorists. Job done.
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByChris6900 (1335.30) 
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Maybe that's because the UK government is better at identifying and intercepting off terrorists than rogue bees. Great job UK!
Posted Jul-6-2012 ByJuujigun (1164.90) 
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