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What I see is an air view of the crash site of flight 93, and
images of debris alongside claims that there was nothing to be found
bigger than a phone book. I am not a 9/11 "Truther" but I am curious to
explore what other liveleakers might have to say about this video. The
"no bigger than a phone book" remark sounded kinda fishy to me, but I'm
no expert on planes and what crashed planes look like. I am also uploading my 9/11 images folder to go alongside this post, for you to grab and add to your folders and discuss.
DISCLAIMER: This video in no way reflects my views and nor do I have anything but general comments about it. I have just never seen in on liveleak before, but forgive me if it is a repost. I stumbled upon in on a torrent website not long ago and found it interesting. There was no description provided on the torrent. Nor do I have a proper one to
provide.
Open commenting to everyone other than one person!
Cheers liveleak,
Lucidx1
Pictures Below
(Warning: Graphic, do not proceed if you are sensitive to pictures involving human death)
By: lucidx1
In: Conspiracy
Tags: 9/11, Graphic, Terrorists, Bush, Cheney, 9/11/01, terrorist attack, truthers, false flag, open to interpretation, open commenting, etc
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9/11 was carried out by the American government so they could invade Afghanistan and build the oil pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Arabian Sea. Anyone who thinks the reason wasn't oil and destabilising the Middle East is a bit naive in my opinion. But it is only my opinion. I'm sure I'll be shouted down, told I'm a conspiracy 'nut' and generally receive hateful responses.
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByBsguk420 (98.60) 
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- Right on, Bro! I fully support you! Although, I think it goes much deeper, than just oil, and much deeper than, just the American government.
Posted Aug-22-2012 ByIamCanadian (424.40) 
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@IamCanadian Agreed, Trillatreals, Illumniati, New World Order.
Posted Aug-22-2012 ByBsguk420 (98.60) 
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- At present, we have two main events. The Middle East turmoil, and the increasingly weakening Western economy. I think both of these events will erupt at relatively the same time. If Syria is invaded, gas prices will soar, bringing about inflation, and then hyperinflation. Seems unreal, and sounds drastic and dramatic, but I think this is the direction, things are going to be headed.
Posted Aug-22-2012 ByIamCanadian (424.40) 
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many "truthrs" take a lot what they belive from the early moments of this crime.you have to remember the news was tripping over them self's trying to get any angle...sometimes the horseshit that was reported becomes fact to some...even if its shit and wrong
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bydiablokid (528.80) 
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Yes, this is basically what I believe too. As you can see, in one of my images you can see a clearly identifiable chunk of an airplane at the 93 crash site.
The only thing that actually seems spooky to me about the 9/11 attacks was how the CCTV footage of the pentagon being hit does not look anything like a plane hit it, nor did the damage.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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@lucidx1 i hear you,but a plane flying at full speed with a half ass camera hit hard.next to the pentagon is a super highway...everyone on that said they saw a plane
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bydiablokid (528.80) 
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But to be honest, in regards to my last statement, I really wouldn't know one way or the other. I just like to keep a hard nose and an open mind.
Edit: Your comment showed up right when I posted this. Yeah I heard the eyewitness reports to, it's not that I honestly doubt it, again, what I said above holds true. I made this post mostly because I am really curious to see what everyone else has to say about 9/11.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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@lucidx1 even i keep i mind open,...choosing sides is shit,anyone with power...everywhere is asshole
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bydiablokid (528.80) 
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@diablokid
That's exactly how I feel too brother.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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God rest the souls off all lost on that day tbh. Hell to all these stupid theories :/. Thats like me saying to people here in Belfast that the people here where shot by and bombed by aliens instead of a pack of cowardly bastard terrorists on both sides. Idiots have you no respect for your own?.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Byninjagoat (181.62) 
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I can appreciate your viewpoint, people get to caught up trying to see things that aren't there to appreciate the actual tragedy of an incident. I really don't like what came out of these attacks, 11 years later and we are still dealing with the consequences here.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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Conspiracy theory has always been part of human nature. For one reason or another there is always a reason for people to escape in to fantasy. Some people use religion. Bored housewives use soap operas. Some people use conspiracy theory. Many are schizophrenic, many are just bored with their own existence and can't cope with being irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. They need to believe that reality is more like a Bourne Identity movie.
The secret to a conspiracy theory is that they More..
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByFire37Rescue (12181.20) 
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I too have noticed the many parallels between belief in many conspiracy theories and organized religion, the two often go hand in hand anyways. People just want something alternative to believe in sometimes, like a lot of this 12/21/12 end of the world bullshit, sometimes it's a coping mechanism, an excuse for people to not try hard? That's how I see it.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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I will use a quote from one of the brightest humans alive to answer that:
"…[a] most important feature is the
analysis of the information that
comes your way. And that’s what I
don’t see enough of in this world.
There’s a level of gullibility that
leaves people susceptible to being
taken advantage of. I see science
literacy as kind of a vaccine against
charlatans who would try to exploit
your ignorance..."
—Neil deGrasse Tyson
"If you’re scientifically liter More..
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByFire37Rescue (12181.20) 
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@Fire37Rescue
Both great quotes from a great man. Particularly the first quote is very applicable. But, it can work both ways, there may come a day when the truth actually is something being hidden and we must not be gullible, hopefully not for a long long time though.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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@Boing
Oh lookie, another "Cool guy rebel".
Regurgitating the ever so impressive yet overplayed "False Flag" catch phrase into the mix.
Tell me, what was false flag about a group of muslim terrorists attacks on America on 9-11? Do you believe it was Dancing Jews,Holographs,GW Bush Himself or Shape Shifting Lizard like Aliens from the Center of the Earth? Impress us Mr. Secrets Man,cuz I know you know. You know what I mean? Feel free to get as fucking crazy as possible t More..
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByFire37Rescue (12181.20) 
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6 tons of Rolls Royce engine (Titanium) ....gone, nowhere to be seen.
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByLOUIE the LIP (90.70) 
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@LOUIE the LIP not true. it was recovered just a few meters below ground.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Byjgaller29 (114.70) jgaller29 View Channel Send Message
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@LOUIE the LIP some people will believe anything.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bythinkslaughter (1489.70) 
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@LOUIE the LIP
- Yes! Likewise with the titanium landing gear.
Posted Aug-22-2012 ByIamCanadian (424.40) 
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Check this doc out and you will see the same size items were found at both crash sites and the damage to the ground looks similar. I thnk the lack of huge pieces of debris shows that Flight 93 wasnt shot down.
http://www.liveleak.com//view?i=a79_1342227648
Never seen some of these pictures, i feel for the people who had the horrible job of collecting bodies during this time.
RIP to everyone who died on 9/11 except the 19 scumbags.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bybarogers619 (1089.96) barogers619 View Channel Send Message
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I'm familiar, it would take a lot of well... foot pounds to obliterate a plane to tiny pieces and there wouldn't be that energy there if it wasn't intact when it hit the ground.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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seen a vid a coupla yrs ago that showed the site supposedly a year before the crash with a hole already there then they superimposed the crash pic over it and it was nearly identical...
Posted Aug-21-2012 Byharv (120.72) 
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saw that too...pretty miraculous how the plane hit that same spot. what are the odds of that.
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByOnlyLiarsBlock (613.40) 
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@harv
- I saw the same thing. Pretty interesting, and pretty suspicous!
Posted Aug-22-2012 ByIamCanadian (424.40) 
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@OnlyLiarsBlock About the same as two planes flying into two towers at just the right floors so that explosives could be set off just below the impact points, thereby making it look like the planes brought the towers down. Brilliant!
Posted Aug-22-2012 Byromo27 (14.40) 
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Excellent post! The video speaks for itself!
Posted Aug-22-2012 ByIamCanadian (424.40) 
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Here is the Conspiracy buster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5XTsQ-9vvo
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByTEX (838.70) 
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This video is not banned. Been posted here many times along with other places.
Ads no new information. Nothing fishy about it at all. Commercial plane nosedives into the ground.
Posted Aug-21-2012 By-stile- (696.90) 
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My remarks are to provoke response, I want to say it's fishy so someone can tell me exactly why it isn't fishy, I am looking for some debate. I did not know this has been posted here before and I apologize for the repost, but I think my images constitute a valid post.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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@-stile- & creates a 3 to 4 mile radius debris field..?
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByDJCool (198.78) 
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@DJCool From what I have read previously from other plane crash sites, not unheard of at all for debris to be strew a good distance, during the early 80's a PSA flight in San Diego I believe had debris strewn within a five mile radius I believe
Posted Aug-21-2012 ByKoranimal (774.60) 
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@lucidx1 In the second world war planes would crash vertical and almost totally disapear, the one which springs to mind is the spitfire which crashed in london and left a hole two feet in diameter, Yes the whole plane bar one wheel went in it
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bychevettey (52.78) chevettey View Channel Send Message
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Extremely good point. You just reminded me of those stories. Yes I got my answers in other posts as well. It's fun to investigate these things, and not just take things for granted and believe things without knowing why you believe them, ya know? I've always felt like my knowledge on 9/11 was one of my weak points lol.
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Don't get any ideas from this please, but Picture: M-csp-00001488
the guy whose laying there in (orange) jumpsuit his Lips and Nose are completely burned/melted away and yet he has hair on his head.
Can anyone please explain how that is possible? should it not all be gone?
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He looks very charred yes, and to me, it would appear as though his hair is partially melted. I dunno though, that's a good question. I'm sure someone who knows more than me about it would be able to explain better.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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@Xerpadon If a human is subjected to heat and not fire the hair will frizzle tight onto the head (like when you over use a hairdryer) also the extremities of the body will melt starting with the thinest. (nose,ears, lips, fingers and toes) so he may have been several floors from the fire but too close to the fearsome heat, asphxyiation due to lack of oxygen would be the most probable cause of death.
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@chevettey Thank you very much for explaining, Makes sense at least.
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This would also explain why his clothing is sooty but not burned off, I imagine it would have burned off too if he was directly in a fire.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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I am no truther, but I do believe that 93 was shot down..and the gov wanted to avoid the series of questions why Washington DC is more important than the rest (though the answer is obvious).
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bysoilentgreene (782.20) 
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@soilentgreene even with all the audio evidence showing the cabin was taken over by the passengers?
LOL!
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bythinkslaughter (1489.70) 
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@thinkslaughter You heard this audio evidence?
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@thinkslaughter . "audio evidence showing cabin was taken over by the passengers"
Is that what that was ? I must've missed the part where the passengers had control of the plane . From what I remember , the evidence showed an attempt to take over the cabin . Do you think that things are like in the movies ? If you stopped connecting the last dots yourself , and just assumed for a moment that Wash. DC just might have that type of air defense ..no matter what happened on board tha More..
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bysoilentgreene (782.20) 
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wasnt it an old mine or something it crashed into. And didnt they find the black box. If so, did they find anything else?
http://911review.org/Wiki/Flight93.shtml
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All I can add that might help you is that I can confirm that M-CSP-00009600 is a piece of 93 but I'm really no use to tell you anything else, I don't know enough.
Posted Aug-21-2012 Bylucidx1 (950.60) 
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Each plane which did go down was a trajedy in itself, people, innocent people lost their lives and families lost a big part of themselves as a result. Having read the posts prior to mine, all views as to what actually happened to flight 93 certainly warrant a look into. I have never bought into conspiracies, yet I would not doubt that possibly the last flight may have been shot down or at least crippled. Not taking away from the individuals which lost thier lives and possibly fought for it yet a More..
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