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'All moderate muslims are doing the work of a fanatical god. The problem with muslims is their god. Moderate islam does not exist.'
"Hamas leaders, that you see on the tv, torturing their members."
reminds of obama willing to sacrifice the careers of his D's..as with the (White) Oregon D who refused to comply: "We're keeping score, brother." Movement turning on self, eating it's own..
March 5, 2010
Masob Hassan, the son of a Hamas leader lets Hannity know the ugly truth about Islam, and the Palestine-Israel conflict. He states that the God of the Koran hates Jews. Then in my favorite part of the interview, he tells Hannity that “moderate” Islam does not exist. Hannitys non-response to that statement says a lot. As I have been saying, “moderate” Islam is not going to the rescue, and the sooner that we realize this the sooner that we can start winning this war.
Interview: Hamas spy unafraid, criticizes Islam
By ADAM GOLDMAN
NEW YORK — Mosab Hassan Yousef, who helped Israel’s security forces kill and arrest members of the Islamic militant group Hamas, is probably marked for death. He should be keeping silent. But he’s got a story to tell, one he delivers in his new book published this week, “Son of Hamas.”
“To be honest with you, being killed is not the worst thing that can happen,” he said Wednesday. “If they want to do kill me … let them do it, and they will be responsible for my blood.”
In his memoir, Yousef, the 32-year-old son of a Hamas founder, claims he was one of the Shin Bet security agency’s best assets and was dubbed The Green Prince, a reference to his Hamas pedigree and the Islamists’ signature green color.
During his 50-minute interview, for which he arrived with armed security, Yousef took shots at Hamas leaders including political chief Khaled Meshaal. He lashed out at Hamas, saying the organization lives in the Middle Ages.
And he hurled his most inflammatory comments at Islam, which he called a religion that teaches people to kill.
“It is not a religion of peace,” said Yousef, who converted to Christianity. “The biggest terrorist is the God of the Quran. I know this is very dangerous and this will offend many people. The more you follow the steps of the prophet of Islam and the God of Islam, the more you get close to being a terrorist.”
Yousef said he started working with the Shin Bet after he was arrested and witnessed Hamas brutalities inside prison. When he was released in 1997, he started meeting with the Shin Bet and gravitating toward Christianity.
Yousef thought he could do some good, preventing the deaths of Israelis and Palestinians.
“I got a chance to stop killing,” he said.
In his book, Yousef clearly relished his importance to Shin Bet and even designed his own missions, one involving duping Meshaal, who lives in Damascus.
“I love this spy stuff, especially with Israeli intelligence paving the way,” he wrote. “In this way, a new communications channel was established with Damascus, even though Meshaal had no idea that he was actually on a party line with the Shin Bet listening in.”
Yousef said Hamas has no idea how Shin Bet operates and accused Hamas of killing innocent people suspected of collaborating with Israel.
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Here is an interview with him from 2008, when he came of the closet of Islamic darkness. God bless this brave man.
Liberating Muslims from "their god"
Mosab Yousef says that he "crossed all the red lines in (his) society". While that may be true, the real story of this son of Hamas leader Sheik Hassan Yousef, who spent years spying for Israel's internal security service, the Shin Bet, is far more complex. It even includes Yousef's decision to convert to Christianity.
Why does a son raised in a devout and loving Muslim family reject virtually every idea with which he was raised, go to work for those he regards as enemies, and render himself persona non grata to his entire family? Obvious Oedipal possibilities arise - a son's need to overthrow his powerful father and make his own way on the world, as do answers which hinge on a search for personal gain, and the fact that Yousef 'saw the light', etc. But the explanation here rises above those kinds of easy explanations.
This is a story of the self-defeating nature of religion-based violence and political brutality, not the betrayal of the Palestinian cause which Yousef still supports. In reading Mosab Yousef's comments to CNN, one is struck by the fact that he still regards Israel as an enemy. He simply came to see that Hamas was far worse. Why? Because of the brutality they practice against their own people, because of their failure to distinguish between civilian and military targets and how those things cause what he Yousef calls "spiritual and soul death".
This is not simply a story of "one man's hero is another man's traitor" either. This is a story about the real differences between two cultures at war with each other. By no means is either side free from blame about the continued suffering on both sides of the conflict. And the continued positioning by each side to paint themselves as blameless will only prolong that suffering.
This is a story about the ways in which brutal, rage-driven, repressive regimes ultimately betray themselves, driving out their own best and brightest. One need not support Israel to stand with Mosab Yousef against that kind of regime. One simply needs to admit that the ends do not justify the means in all cases. A lesson which Hamas has yet to learn.
One need not leave Islam to learn that lesson, even though Yousef felt compelled to do so. Speaking to the Wall Street Journal, the now-Christian explains "What matters is not whether my father is a fanatic or not, he's doing the will of a fanatic God...The problem is not in Muslims," he continues. "The problem is with their God. They need to be liberated from their God. He is their biggest enemy. It has been 1,400 years they have been lied to."
While Mr. Yousef the younger may now understand God's will in more life-affirming, forgiving and gentle ways, he seems to have kept the totalitarian theology with which he, along with so many others of so many faiths, was raised.
The God of Muslims is the same as the God of Christians and Jews. To tell people that Islam is a 1,400-year-old lie is simply the first step down a road that would inspire the Christians Yousef now calls his brothers to do to Muslims what he saw Muslims do to Jews, Christians, and even other Muslims. That's a lesson which Mr, Yousef still needs to learn.
Rather than liberating people from their gods, perhaps we should simply challenge them to articulate how their chosen god actually commands them to protect the lives of those who have made different choices. Ironically, Mosab Yousef would probably still be a Muslim if Hamas had figured that one out.
MARCH 5, 2010, 10:23 P.M. ET.'They Need to Be Liberated From Their God' The 'Son of Hamas' author on his conversion to Christianity, spying for Israel, and shaming his family..
By MATTHEW KAMINSKI
'I absolutely know that in anybody's eyes I was a traitor," says Mosab Hassan Yousef. "To my family, to my nation, to my God. I crossed all the red lines in my society. I didn't leave one that I didn't cross."
Now 32, Mosab is the son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, a founder and leader of the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas. Throughout the last decade, from the second Intifada to the current stalemate, he worked alongside his father in the West Bank. During that time the younger Mr. Yousef also secretly embraced Christianity. And as he reveals in his book "Son of Hamas," out this week, he became one of the top spies for Israel's internal security arm, the Shin Bet.
The news of this double conversion has sent ripples through the Middle East. One of Mr. Yousef's handlers at the Shin Bet confirmed his account to the Israeli daily Haaretz. Hamas—already reeling from the assassination of a senior military chief in Dubai in January—calls his claims Zionist propaganda. From the Israeli prison he has occupied since 2005, Sheikh Yousef on Monday issued a statement that he and his family "have completely disowned the man who was our oldest son and who is called Mosab."
For the past two years, Mosab Yousef has lived near San Diego, where he's kept a low profile out of concern for his security. The U.S. is currently weighing his application for political asylum, and until his confession to espionage and the publicity blitz that accompanied it this week, only knew him as the son of a terrorist who sometimes attends evangelical churches in California. The book is intended to launch a new life in America.
Mr. Yousef, whose large, engaging eyes sit prominently on an oval face, says he was confused for many years himself, and realizes many people will be as well. His family has been shamed and old friends refuse to believe him. The book, a Le Carréesque thriller wrapped in a spiritual coming-of-age story, is an attempt to answer what he says "is impossible to imagine"—"how I ended up working for my enemies who hurt me, who hurt my dad, who hurt my people."
"There is a logical explanation," he continues in fairly fluent English. "Simply my enemies of yesterday became my friends. And the friends of yesterday became really my enemies."
The first half of his memoir describes a childhood in Ramallah marked by close familial ties and the Israeli occupation. He describes a kind and unusual Muslim father who cooks dinner, treats his mother well, and cares for his neighbors. An imam trained in Jordan, Sheikh Hassan Yousef rises to prominence in their hometown, and in 1986—along with six other men including the wheelchair-bound cleric from Gaza, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin—forms Hamas at a secret meeting in Hebron. The first Palestinian Intifada—or uprising—breaks out the following year. Mosab did his part, throwing stones at Israeli settlers and army vehicles.
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."Most people heard about Hamas after Hamas started carrying out terrorist attacks," he says now, speaking near his agent's home here in Nashville. "Hamas started out as an idea. Let's say a noble idea—resisting occupation." Those early clashes with the Israelis begat worse violence, and the cemetery near his house began to fill up with cadavers. Palestinians also turned on each other. A corrupt and authoritarian Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) sparred with the rising Hamas and other groups. All of them used accusations of "collaboration" as an excuse to torture and kill rivals or the weak.
Mr. Yousef traces his awakening to his first sustained exposure to Hamas cruelty. In 1996, he was arrested by the Israelis for buying weapons. He says he was beaten and tortured badly in custody. It was then that the Shin Bet approached him. He says he thought about becoming a double agent. "I wanted revenge on Israel," he writes. But when he was sent to serve his term at the Megiddo prison in northern Israel, he says he was more shocked by the way the maj'd, Hamas's security wing, dealt with other prisoners.
"Every day, there was screaming; every night, torture. Hamas was torturing its own people!" he writes. The Muslims he met in jail "bore no resemblance to my father" and "were mean and petty . . . bigots and hypocrites."
By agreeing to work with the Shin Bet, he got out of prison early. He says he was curious about the Israelis and fast abandoned his idea to become a double agent. Though he took money from Shin Bet and stayed on their payroll for a decade, his handlers in the early years didn't ask much of him. They encouraged him to study and be a model son. His code name was the Green Prince: green as in the color of the Islamist Hamas flag, and prince as the offspring to Hamas royalty.
During those quiet years he met a British cabbie in Jerusalem who gave him an English-Arabic copy of the New Testament and invited him to attend a bible study session at their hotel. "I found that I was really drawn to the grace, love and humility that Jesus talked about," he says in "Son of Hamas."
As a spy, Mr. Yousef wasn't fully activated until the outbreak of the second Intifada in September 2000. A few months before at Camp David, the late PLO chief Yasser Arafat had turned down the Israeli offer of statehood on 90% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as the capital. According to Mr. Yousef, Arafat decided he needed another uprising to win back international attention. So he sought out Hamas's support through Sheikh Yousef, writes his son, who accompanied him to Arafat's compound. Those meetings took place before the Palestinian authorities found a pretext for the second Intifada. It came when future Prime Minister Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, site of the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock. Mr. Yousef's account helps to set straight the historical record that the uprising was premeditated by Arafat.
Mr. Yousef tells me that he was horrified by the pointless violence unleashed by politicians willing to climb "on the shoulders of poor, religious people." He says Palestinians who heeded the call "were going like a cow to the slaughterhouse, and they thought they were going to heaven." So, as he writes in the book, "At the age of twenty-two, I became the Shin Bet's only Hamas insider who could infiltrate Hamas's military and political wings, as well as other Palestinian factions."
Mr. Yousef claims some significant intelligence coups for himself, and he says he isn't telling the world everything. Early on, he was first to discover that the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a terrorist group born during the second Intifada, was made up of Arafat's guards, who were directly funded by international donors. He says he found the most lethal Palestinian bomb maker and foiled assassination plots against President Shimon Peres, then foreign minister, as well as a prominent rabbi. He says he broke up cells of suicide bombers about to attack Israel. And he helped convince his father to be the first prominent Hamas leader to offer a truce with Israel.
His handler—a "Captain Loai," now retired from the Shin Bet—corroborated many of these stories to Haaretz. The paper said the Shin Bet considered Mr. Yousef "the most reliable and most senior agent."
Mr. Yousef strains to justify himself, but ultimately "the question is whether I was a traitor or a hero in my own eyes."
So we're back to why?
The motivation, he says, was to save lives.
"I'd seen enough killing. I was a witness to lots of death . . . Saving a human life was something really, really beautiful . . . no matter who they are. Not only Israeli people owe me their lives. I guarantee many terrorists, many Palestinian leaders, owe me their lives—or in other words they owe my Lord their lives."
He says he used his influence at Shin Bet to get the Israelis to try to arrest Hamas and other Palestinian figures rather than blow them up with missile strikes. He says he saved his father from the fate of Sheikh Yassin and other Hamas leaders whom the Israelis killed by secretly arranging to have him arrested. "I know for sure that my father is alive today, he still breathes, because I was involved in this thing," he says.
Mr. Yousef has some of the evangelist in him, even as he insists he is not a particularly devoted Christian and is still learning about his new religion. He wants Palestinians and Israelis to learn what he did from the Christian God.
"I converted to Christianity because I was convinced by Jesus Christ as a character, as a personality. I loved him, his wisdom, his love, his unconditional love. I didn't leave [the Islamic] religion to put myself in another box of religion. At the same time it's a beautiful thing to see my God exist in my life and see the change in my life. I see that when he does exist in other Middle Easterners there will be a change.
"I'm not trying to convert the entire nation of Israel and the entire nation of Palestine to Christianity. But at least if you can educate them about the ideology of love, the ideology of forgiveness, the ideology of grace. Those principles are great regardless, but we can't deny they came from Christianity as well."
Mr. Yousef says he felt burned out and decided to stop working for the Shin Bet in 2006, against their wishes. He made his way to friends in southern California whom he'd met through bible study.
As the son of a Muslim cleric, he says he had reached the conclusion that terrorism can't be defeated without a new understanding of Islam. Here he echoes other defectors from Islam such as the former Dutch parliamentarian and writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Do you consider your father a fanatic? "He's not a fanatic," says Mr. Yousef. "He's a very moderate, logical person. What matters is not whether my father is a fanatic or not, he's doing the will of a fanatic God. It doesn't matter if he's a terrorist or a traditional Muslim. At the end of the day a traditional Muslim is doing the will of a fanatic, fundamentalist, terrorist God. I know this is harsh to say. Most governments avoid this subject. They don't want to admit this is an ideological war.
"The problem is not in Muslims," he continues. "The problem is with their God. They need to be liberated from their God. He is their biggest enemy. It has been 1,400 years they have been lied to."
These are all dangerous words. Of the threats issued to his life by Islamists, he says, "That's not the worst thing that can happen to you. I'm OK with it, I'm not afraid. . . . Palestinians have reason to kill me. Some Israelis may want to kill me. My goal is not to defeat my enemy. It is to win over my enemy."
Mr. Kaminski is a member of the Journal's editorial board.
Muslims need liberated from their God
Posted By shoppePosted On: Mar 7 2010 1:25PM
Not my words:
I was going to put this in the religion section, but I knew it would get overlooked.
"son of Hamas" by Mosab Hassan Yousef
"I'm not trying to convert the entire nation of Israel or entire nation of Palestine to Christianity. But at least if you can educate them about the ideology of love, the ideology of forgiveness, the ideology of grace. These primciples are GREAT regardles, but we can't deny they come from Christianity as well.
"The problem is not with Muslims" he continued. " The problem is with their god. They need liberated from their God. He is their biggest enemy. It has been 1,400 years that they have been lied too".
this book just came out and it sounds like a good read. Mosab Yousef is the son of the original Hamas founder. He converted to Christianity, spied for Israel, and shamed his family. Now lives "somewhere" in California.
I am sure his life is in constant danger.
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