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The team beat South Korea in the finals. Two team members, Zainab
Hameed and Azeem Liaquat, bagged the first and second position
respectively as the best speakers at the competition while the third
member, Ahmed Shujaan, scored the fifth position. PHOTO COURTESY IDEA
KARACHI: For the three
15-year-old students selected to represent Pakistan in one of the
largest high school tournaments in the world, The Karl Popper Debating
Championship (KPDC), the first-time visit to Mexico became their time to
shine.
Not only did the Pakistani team win the final against the team from
South Korea, but all three participants were listed in the top 10
speakers of tournament. The titled was achieved after winning through 6
preliminary rounds, 3 elimination rounds and the grand final.
Karachi Grammar School student Zainab Hameed was named the top
speaker of the competition while Azeem Liaquat, student of the Salamat
International Campus for Advanced Studies in Lahore, came second. Their
compatriot, Ahmed Shujaan from the Aitchison College, was not far behind
either and bagged the fifth position among more than 200 participants.
Teams from 45 countries came together to debate on a mix of prepared
and impromptu motions. The event was a part of the 18th edition of the
International Debate Education Association (IDEA) Youth Forum held in
Mexico from July 2 to 15.
This topic for the KPDC finals was “Guantanamo Bay prison should be
closed down immediately”. Team Pakistan was defending the motion while
team Korea had the burden to prove that the motion should not be
adopted.
The teams participated in two competitions –the KPDC and the mixed
team track. In the former, they represented Pakistan as a team while in
the former, they were split up and paired with debaters from other
countries.
First time for everything
“It was the first time that Pakistan participated but it was also the
first time that any team won with all nine votes of the judges in its
favour,” said team Pakistan’s coach, Daniyal Asad, also the general
secretary of the Debating Society of Pakistan. Asad also won the best
coach cum adjudicator award.
A two-day selection camp, comprising the top 20 speakers at the
“Under-17 Pakistan National Debating Championship”, was arranged by the
Debating Society of Pakistan in Lahore. The participants were primarily
the O’ level or matriculation students out of which Zainab, Ahmed and
Azeem were selected.
Asad told The Express Tribune that the society has been
running the debating circuit across the country successfully for the
past 20 years without help from the government. “Some form of patronage
from the government would have helped in grooming the talent.” The
expenses of trip were paid by the US-based Open Society Foundations.
Team effort
After being selected for the competition, a five-day training camp
was organised by the debating society in Lahore, following which they
continued to research and collaborate for about two weeks through online
mediums because Zainab was in Karachi while the other two participants
were based in Lahore. “We had a lot of team chemistry right off the bat
and that was probably the main reason that we were successful,” said
Zainab. She gave credit to the coach and other trainers for strenuously
helping them all the way through.
“We didn’t actually have a lot of knowledge about topics like civil
liberties and terrorism,” said Zainab while talking about the
competition’s theme. “We didn’t even know that the Guantanamo Bay is
actually a legal black hole but we had to defend the motion in the
finals.” Zainab recaps that the moment their victory was announced,
everybody except for the three stunned team members were cheering them
on while chanting “Pakistan… Pakistan”.
“It was not only a competition but also a great learning experience during which we got to prove our talent,” said Ahmed.
He recalled one of the most memorable moments for the team when the
three performed “bhangra” in traditional Pakistani outfits at the talent
night.
Published in The Express Tribune, August 2nd, 2012.
By: Ray Kalm
In: Other News
Tags: Pakistan Iran Mexico, South Korea Turkey America England City English Pakistani iranian Turkish Americans Mexicano
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Makes sense Muslims will debate (argue) with you regardless of how wrong they are, even if you shove the prrof/evidence down their throats.
Posted Aug-2-2012 ByAxisofEvil (553.98) 
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@AxisofEvil don't generalize im so sick of it seriously.
a muslim can be white black or purple. do you mean pakistani? do you mean arabs?
and one more thing. I know a few christians who would debate you regardless. my mother in law tried to convince me of christ ,, her argument? "I saw Jesus and mother Teresa in my dreams"
Fuk me sideways
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byradioactive (142.50) 
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I was going to make a decent comment, but I have to go and take a shit.
Posted Aug-2-2012 Byngc 1350 (115.28) ngc 1350 View Channel Send Message
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@ngc 1350 Would the comment have to do with us beating the Americans in terms of speakers, and America not coming in top 2?
Posted Aug-2-2012 ByRay Kalm (247.70) 
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@Ray Kalm
Nahh... it was just another pointless debate that changes nothing.
Posted Aug-2-2012 Byngc 1350 (115.28) ngc 1350 View Channel Send Message
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@Ray Kalm Who gives a shit??? NOBODY! Just you!
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byfotoman4u2 (3372.30) 
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@Ray Kalm
And by the way, the Guantanamo facility will continue to be open, regardless of what some brainwashed stupid student says.
Now you can go ahead and block me.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byconservative hispanic (932.10) 
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Sweep usually refers to all members placing in the top areas.. so 3 members top 3 spots. Good to see people can argue without getting shot... I'm looking to many american cities when i say that :P
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByAariss (381.82) 
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@Aariss 2 members of ours ranked first, the team with the overall most points become the winner. Aariss.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByPakistani (429.20) 
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@Pakistani That means you won.. a sweep is top 3 spots or ALL your team mates finishing in the HIGHEST possible spots in a row.. so 1,2,3. Not saying you did bad... just saying your term sweep is ..off.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByAariss (381.82) 
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@Aariss Ah alright. Misunderstood you.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByPakistani (429.20) 
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@Pakistani
You derped.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByFire37Rescue (12149.00) 
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The Karl Popper Debating
Championship (KPDC),?????..............hhhhhhhhhhh.......pakistan with that or not..still a totalshit place...mister ray kalm.....the day that your actual leaders killed Benazir Bhutto...your countrie.....is goin total down, winning south corea or not..
Posted Aug-2-2012 Bytfou (123.28) tfou View Channel Send Message
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@Stoner_Simpson Cool Avatar!
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byfotoman4u2 (3372.30) 
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@fobfob77 Ugly fat American is jealous. Blocked for being ignorant.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByRay Kalm (247.70) 
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Jealous of what? No, we're not jealous of you. I'm even more glad that I'm not a muslim.
I guess you can't take the truth, I'm sorry for you.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byconservative hispanic (932.10) 
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@fobfob77 Since when is Pakistan in Middle East ?? You little Mexican
Posted Aug-5-2012 ByBadNad (551.60) 
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We beat the USA in terms of single speakers too (see chart in video), USA is 3rd, 4th, Pakistan is 1st, 2nd.
May Allah continue to make us stronger.
Posted Aug-2-2012 ByRay Kalm (247.70) 
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Whoo hooo! Yeah... Ok, now go back outside into your neighbborhood and try to stop a few honor killings for the night.
Posted Aug-2-2012 Byngc 1350 (115.28) ngc 1350 View Channel Send Message
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@ngc 1350 Ignorant comments will be deleted, and if I see that coming from you again, you will be blocked.
Posted Aug-2-2012 ByRay Kalm (247.70) 
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Don't delete me because we can be friends, pals, buddies... I mean, writting the truth is not ignorant. I don't worry about honor killings in my neighborhood. But I bet you do though.
No seriously, lets debate this.
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@ngc 1350
He cant, he knows he cant win.
Posted Aug-2-2012 ByAxisofEvil (553.98) 
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@ngc 1350 I do not debate with ignorant people.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByRay Kalm (247.70) 
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LOL!! So you think that something that doesn't EXIST helped you win? LOL!! Thank GOD? There is no GOD!
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byfotoman4u2 (3372.30) 
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@fotoman4u2 You will soon see my friend. God tells me to warn you of a terrible punishment.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByRay Kalm (247.70) 
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@Ray Kalm
Idiot.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byconservative hispanic (932.10) 
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@Stoner_Simpson Hell fire (If God wills).
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByRay Kalm (247.70) 
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Congratulations, finally found something Paki's are good at... arguing.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byweada (490.90) 
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In pakistan, the power of oral arguments don't mean sh!t. He who has the gun, makes the rules.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byplokiju (878.20) 
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Bravo! Pakistan...... @All competitors, get well soon :p
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByAdeel Chaudhary (0.00) Adeel Chaudhary View Channel Send Message
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That's just great. Mexico, our friendly neighbor to the south, awards Top Honors to a group of kids from Pakistan (another "ally") for hating on America, calling America racist, all night long.
Somebody remind me, I forget. Why was it we give theses countries aid and call them allies?
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByODIN (78.40) 
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@ODIN You comment made no sense, and the irony is, you're the one being racist with that statement.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByRay Kalm (247.70) 
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It only makes sense that koranimals can argue well. Logic and truth are literally punching them in the face daily.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByMartyr_Machine (435.56) Martyr_Machine Send Message
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So, some pakistani students win, and you feel sooooooooo overjoyed? While I'm do not critize the fact that you feel happy for your countrymen, the fact that you rub it in our noses like if is a big deal, proves how much of a loser you're. And the most retarded statement is that somehow you use it to spread your Islamotard propaganda, is the most ironic thing of all.
Fail!
Posted Aug-3-2012 Byconservative hispanic (932.10) 
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PORKISTAN is still a focking cesspool... try and dispute that, must suck to be Porkistani
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