The difference - between a Democracy and a Republic
This is part of an excellent documentary made by The John Birch Society.
"The Political Spectrum Explained" 2008
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Added: Mar-24-2012 Occurred On: Mar-23-2012
By: Rebel_Radius
In: Politics
Tags: Understanding, political left, political right, republic, democracy, Bob Barr, Individual, freedom, versus, collective, mob, communism, socialism
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By: Rebel_Radius
In: Politics
Tags: Understanding, political left, political right, republic, democracy, Bob Barr, Individual, freedom, versus, collective, mob, communism, socialism
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democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for lunch. its one of the worst forms of government ever devised. mob rule. which i guess wouldnt be to bad if the mob wasnt such a bunch of dumb ass, ignorant idiots. but take a look at the voting masses in the US.
Posted Mar-24-2012 Bypatriots_act (328.60) patriots_act View Channel Send Message
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Liberals will have a hard time at being able to grasp this video
Posted Mar-24-2012 Bymrgod2u (1576.20) 
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yay!
Posted Mar-24-2012 Byjohn_b (369.68) 
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I've seen this before and agree 100%, the founders of this constitutional republic understood human nature and how best to protect LIBERTY not safety.
You can't guarantee safety or eliminate risk, no one gets out alive, life itself has inherent risks.
By trying to "protect" people we have eliminated many freedoms and liberties, devalued our fiat currency, incurred a $15.5 TRILLION deficit and created an entire generation of entitled parasites.
NOT what the founders had in mind.
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2080.64) 
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And so it was, and hopfully, it will be again. Vote Dr. Ron Paul!
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByAlbuqBill (340.20) 
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Well that gave me something to think about. Thanks.
Posted Mar-24-2012 Bymidnightsun (43.98) 
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Partly a good analysis, especially on dictatorship and oligarchy.
Otherwise over-simplified in certain aspects. The Good sheriff has to be elected, so he has to have the backing of the Majority (potential lynch-mob).
Does the Sheriff oppose the majority in this lynching situation, or does he want to ensure re-election and do what the majority wants.
The US has, despite being a Republic, had its fair share of lynchings in the Good Old Days, when America had not yet been "taken away" a More..
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByTuuri56 (118.10) 
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@Tuuri56
Its true, we've constantly battled for a republic vs a democracy. You might have noticed by now where the names Democrat and Republican came from thinking about this. The advocates for democracy (democrats) believed in states rights and popular vote. Popular vote was that slaves were perfectly fine. The believer in republic (republican president abraham lincoln) said the constitution says all men are created equal so the south can't have their slaves. That was one of the major factors More..
Posted Mar-24-2012 Byjeru (284.30) 
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@jeru
but now the situation has reversed completely .
the republicans are the most intensely anti-black , anti-minority group while democrats have gained reputation of being black/hispanic/minority appeasers .
Strange!!!
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByFunFlips (210.30) 
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@FunFlips
More race baiting rhetoric.
Posted Mar-24-2012 Byconservative hispanic (1008.50) 
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@jeru
Yes, I knew about the connection between democrats, slavery and the Klan. As you said the US political history is "kind of messed up". It must be a unique situation in the world, the turnaround in the two parties` attitude towards minorities. And I do NOT mean that now the GOP is for segragation or slavery. Another strange thing is that change in the south from D to R.
The tendency to rewrite history is
somehow built in most people, and especially in politicians. And I believe More..
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByTuuri56 (118.10) 
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@Tuuri56
Just truthfully speaking, the 'turnaround' of the two parties is more of a political fairytale than a reality. As far as any old republican political propaganda that I've ever found/read they really haven't changed all that much as far as what they campaigned on. Which largely was the same message the Whigs campaigned on before that. Pro-business and small government. The Democrats really haven't changed all that much either except in one major aspect. An aspect just as big as republ More..
Posted Mar-25-2012 Byjeru (284.30) 
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Mmm... a bit simplistic. But I suppose it's made for Americans to understand.
The obvious flaw in the narrative here is, A democracy is not ruled by the mob, it is also ruled by law.
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Haha.... have you ever heard of The Tytler Cycle?
In short: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."
That statement is hundreds More..
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@jeru
Err... yeah, whatever.
But, A democracy is not ruled by the mob, it is also ruled by law.
Posted Mar-24-2012 Byallyssa (871.68) allyssa View Channel Send Message
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@allyssa
A law ruled by mob. The mob makes the law....
Posted Mar-24-2012 Byjeru (284.30) 
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@allyssa I think your in over your head on this one if you can't comprehend the problem with your statement.
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByWEEDBENDER (286.80) WEEDBENDER View Channel Send Message
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@jeru
This is wrong. The swiss have a democratic system since more than 600 years and it still works very well. And switzerland is one of the most developed countries in the world. It even a very extreme form of democraty there: They have votes every few weeks, where the people decides about important new laws or any other important changes in government politics.
Posted Mar-24-2012 Byhhhhhaaaaa (272.64) hhhhhaaaaa View Channel Send Message
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So simple a caveman could do it.
Unfortunately idiots think it is better to have a democracy, it is not better.
A democracy is like two wolves and a lamb debating what is for dinner. An armed republic is the lamb calling for a revote.
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByKmanbay (689.76) Kmanbay View Channel Send Message
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Can you keep it?
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByArizona_Patriot (3120.86) 
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@Arizona_Patriot Nope.
Posted Mar-24-2012 By-Tipping_Point- (250.10) 
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@Arizona_Patriot: Lost it decades ago.
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2080.64) 
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This wasn't created by Bob Barr. It was created by the Jon Birch Society.
Posted Mar-24-2012 Bylowski (67.10) lowski View Channel Send Message
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@lowski overview of america - john birch society. Google to watch the entire video. Go Ron Paul 2012
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@lowski Really? I shall amend the header. Cheers.
Posted Mar-25-2012 ByRebel_Radius (1527.72) 
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@lowski I have seen the video and was impressed with the explantions.
Posted Mar-25-2012 ByRebel_Radius (1527.72) 
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Ben Franklin is a friend of mine. He says you're all a bunch of DB's.
Posted Mar-24-2012 ByIntellectual (771.64) Intellectual View Channel Send Message
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Very informative. I guess Canada is a republic even though nobody thinks of us as one (just forget we're part of a monarchy...) Going to try and find this documentary online.
Posted Mar-24-2012 By-Tipping_Point- (250.10) 
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@-Tipping_Point- Canada is a socialist deomocracy. There can be no Republic under a monarchy. That is because the monarch is above the law. Whereas in a Republic the government is NOT above the constitution which is law. Remember the name Republic - meaning law.
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@Rebel_Radius I am sorry you didn't pay attention in history class...but a lot of monarch systems are not above the law, especially in Britain's case. Plus, Canada's law system has shot down government legislation countless times. Because it was against the "constitution". The monarch is a ceremonial head of state. The monarch has no say nor influence over Canadian government or law.
Posted Mar-24-2012 By-Tipping_Point- (250.10) 
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@Rebel_Radius The monarch's representative, the Governor General, takes orders FROM Canadians, not from the queen. Please get your facts straight. So again, Canada is virtually a republic. I didn't say it WAS a republic.
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@-Tipping_Point- "The Queen or sovereign is the head of state in Canada. The Governor General of Canada represents the sovereign, and most of the powers and authority of the sovereign have been delegated to the Governor General. The role of the Canadian Governor General is mostly symbolic and ceremonial."
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@Rebel_Radius I know, but it's useless, and a waste of time in critical decision making. Britain does basically nothing for Canada, as everyone knows they have problems of their own. Canada is an autonomous state with it's own government. We don't need to be part of the remnants of a failed colony by being the ceremonial bitch to a little island that's only significant power in the world is the "ceremonial" fact that they tried to exploit foreign lands and it's people for their own fin More..
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