Medieval fencing techniques with the long knife
Inspired by Panzerknacker2´s video about the argentinian fighting knifes, I thought this might be an interesting video for you guys about european medieval fencing techniques with this typical german weapon of the common man. Swords were only allowed to the nobility.
I find the performance of this german fencing shool pretty impressive.
They teach from original fencing books of the medieval period.
Enjoy.
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Added: Oct-25-2011 Occurred On: Oct-25-2011
By: MrSlave
In: Weapons
Tags: Langes Messer, Long Knife, Medieval, Fencing, Johannes Lecküchner 1482, Codex Wallerstein 1470, TheRealGladiatores fencing shool
Location: Germany (load item map)
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Views: 4512 | Comments: 38 | Votes: 10 | Favorites: 1 | Shared: 0 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 2
By: MrSlave
In: Weapons
Tags: Langes Messer, Long Knife, Medieval, Fencing, Johannes Lecküchner 1482, Codex Wallerstein 1470, TheRealGladiatores fencing shool
Location: Germany (load item map)
Marked as: approved
Views: 4512 | Comments: 38 | Votes: 10 | Favorites: 1 | Shared: 0 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 2
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some good skills there.
Posted Oct-26-2011 Byasylumta2 (813.38) 
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My last AK included a free Romy bayonet. It's a fine piece a metal. I attached it but always take it off because i'm so clumsy i know i'll just fall on the thing.
Posted Oct-25-2011 ByEva_Destruction (2749.34) 
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@Eva_Destruction
I'm the only person I know who's been stabbed with a bayonette.
I won't go into the details as it's kinda embarassing.
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByDEADBEEF (4238.06) 
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@DEADBEEF Respect...I'm thinking i don't want to go there
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByEva_Destruction (2749.34) 
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@DEADBEEF Please do! I love such stories. Accident or real warfare?
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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@MrSlave
Accident and embarassing - suffice to say in front of the entire regiment and I was ordered to stop bleeding on the parade-ground forthwith and report to the aid-station.
I've got a very nice scar in my throat as a result.
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByDEADBEEF (4238.06) 
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@MrSlave
O.K. After a wine or two I'll 'fess up.
Parade drill, 'Fix & Unfix Bayonets'
Correct procedure for unfix, 'release bayonet catch and smoothly remove bayonet'
Incorrect procedure 'tug hard on bayonet and then finally get catch to release and then stab your self in throat'
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByDEADBEEF (4238.06) 
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it's only fun and games until someone loses an eye or a finger by accident.
Mr.Slave.... that losing finger thing.... You should know what I mean....
:)
Posted Oct-25-2011 Byfigatomek (13440.08) 
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@figatomek I used to practice fencing with a friend. But we had wooden swords and even this was pretty painful. These guys are professionals. I wouldnt do this with steel-swords if I hadnt proper protection. The circular saw accident years ago was enough of ´losing fingers´ for me.
Posted Oct-25-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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I was watching this same vid the other day on youtube.
I sometimes wonder if Europe needs to go back to those days, in order to purge all those Muslims and save herself.
Posted Oct-25-2011 Byconservative hispanic (1009.40) 
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@conservative hispanic Its a nice hobby. And also a way to preserve your culture if you want to put it on that level.
And yes, I have this vid from youtube. But hey, 99% of the videos here are downloaded from other webpages. I dont think these guys would be angry. Its like free advertising for them.
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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Must of sucked back in the days to discover a technique better than yours.
Posted Oct-26-2011 Byoneant (51.30) 
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@BadMosh_Satinder They also have some videos about fencing with the longsword and the similarities to japanese fencing techniques are amazing.
Posted Oct-25-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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One bald guy and one ponytail guy. So typical.
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByTexan_in_China (103.70) 
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and this is how I respond to fencing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE
Posted Oct-25-2011 Bysic semper tyrannis (118.20) 
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@sic semper tyrannis
Effective but no style.
This comin from a japanese? Im flabbergasted! ;D
Posted Oct-25-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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I concur, effective but not as elegant...
Posted Oct-26-2011 Byconservative hispanic (1009.40) 
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@MrSlave agreed.katanas are still made in japan to this day.
Posted Oct-26-2011 Byasylumta2 (813.38) 
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@MrSlave Well actually I am half Japanese and half German. I am all about efficiency, and certainly the gun isnt as romantic as chopping someones head off but it gets the job done so much faster.
Posted Oct-27-2011 Bysic semper tyrannis (118.20) 
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@sic semper tyrannis
"...the gun isnt as romantic as chopping someones head off but it gets the job done..."
LMAO!!!
Your resposes have more style than any weapon could ever have.
Cheers.
Posted Oct-27-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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Nice vid, thank you. I greatly enjoyed it.
I think I understood that medieval trainers would teach their pupils that a loose and flailing "free" hand would be the hand that were cut off. As a result, we see the peculiar stance with the arm pressed against the body. We see the same poise in many forms of Kung Fu and very old Indian styles.
Posted Oct-25-2011 ByBlack Spade (127.80) 
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@Black Spade You re welcome mate.
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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So what exactly is the difference between a sword and a fighting knife?
I can only guess that swords are better quality steel.
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByDEADBEEF (4238.06) 
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@DEADBEEF Swords(european) are double edged. Thats the whole difference.
It was more a symbolic thing why peasants and citizen had to use weapons like this, I guess. But Im not an expert. Similar to the long knifes were `Falchions´. Also a one edge weapon but with a grip and crossguard like swords have.
http://www.wulflund.com/images_items/sword---falchion-ii_3.jpg
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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@MrSlave
In English we have the phrase 'double edged sword' meaning something that has benefits as well as disadvantages.
Most recent swords are single edged. An example is a cavalry sword or sabre.
I think that the only modern weapon with double edges is in a small percentage of bayonettes.
(By the way, in my opinion it's a dead-heat as to which is the most useless weapon. A Grenade or a Bayonette)
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByDEADBEEF (4238.06) 
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@DEADBEEF This phrase exists in the german language too. ;)
The whole ´double edged weapons only for the nobility´ thing is what Ive read in a reenactors forum. But I dont know any details.
If Im not mistaken, it was completely different in England for example. English citizen were allowed to carry swords.
And it depends of which period we are talking about. Just think of rapiers. Definitely a double edged weapon, used by civilians too, also in germany. But thats the renaissance.
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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@Flip500 Thanks.
They also have two vids about fencing with the longsword and one vid about several medieval close-combat weapons:Long knife with buckler(a small shield), longsword and halberds. I can upload them too if you like. The responses here are nice and motivating.
Posted Oct-26-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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Great, thanks for the post, some great technicians
Posted Oct-26-2011 Byvax2002 (115.00) 
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A fight in those days would have been quick, violent and deadly.
I think a better policy would be to tip your cap, bow and move on politely.
Posted Oct-26-2011 Bymagna750 (826.48) magna750 View Channel Send Message
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Great post! I still have my foil from when I practiced fencing, a great fun sport with a lot of skill and precision required!
Posted Oct-27-2011 ByEmrysM (1894.06) 
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@EmrysM I was usually more interested in the older weapons but a good rapier or foil fencing duel also gives me thrills.
I could watch this one for example over and over again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjmMjJp1LSg&feature=channel_video_title
Great performance especially by the smaler guy.
I possess a sharp Oakeshott Type XV sword and a wooden bokken for training. But what Im dreaming of is a Pappenheimer Rapier like this one:
http://www.sword.cz/detail10.htm
It costs almost 1000Eu More..
Posted Oct-27-2011 ByMrSlave (1223.46) 
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