Mother Teresa: Saint or Scandal on Hardball
Christopher Hitchens and Bill Donohue have a lively debate about Mother Theresa on MSNBC Hardball after it is revealed that Mother Teresa's writings expressed she had no faith in god.
Hitchens is the author of the book The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice (1995). Bill Donohue is the president of an organization called The Catholic League, a self described American catholic anti-defamation and civil rights organization.
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Added: Jan-26-2010
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By: gregsto
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I love it when hitchens talks about morality, it's a complete joke. The best the man has is an opinion about what he think might maybe be somewhat correct.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByFillTheVoid (1207.38) 
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He has as much right to speak on morality as anyone else, Mr. doens't Allow Comments or Criticsm of His Mythology.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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What a fat, greasy slime ball. "People like you Chris", with a big shit eating grin.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bynewbornconservative (240.86) 
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I've heard Christopher Hitchens debate Dennis Prager. Hitchens got owned.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByINDO_420 (593.42) INDO_420 View Channel Send Message
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I like Prager. Listen to him often on the radio.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bymigs1955 (923.74) 
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How could someone get owned debating god?
god is adult Santa Claus.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByHuggles (195.40) 
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He got owned because he constantly contradicted himself and Prager used his own words against him. Dennis Prager is a very deep thinker and always brings new angles to subjects that so called experts have not thought of.
If God is Santa Claus for adults than that means he is real. The Santa Claus legend is based on a real saint.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByINDO_420 (593.42) INDO_420 View Channel Send Message
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So santa Clause is real just because the real saint the mythology is supposedly baised on existed?
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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No, the modern day Santa Claus legend is directly based on Saint Nicholas of Myra, a 4th Century Greek Christian Bishop. He definitely existed and it is definitely based on him, nothing "supposedly".
Your argument might have made more sense if you sighted the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy. Not based on something real or historic.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByINDO_420 (593.42) INDO_420 View Channel Send Message
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hitchens is a piece of shit. notice he said i (don't think) there is a god, he does have his doubts and prays he correct
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bystar53 (32654.90) 
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i pray everynight that your arab looking god is the one true god, or atleast the son of god. god's illegitimate son, pray with me.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bydusty_bottomz (68.80) dusty_bottomz View Channel Send Message
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people can believe whatever they want, but anyone who has never questioned their own faith at times is kinda false.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Byjoeindabronx (131.08) joeindabronx View Channel Send Message
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"atheism" is a joke.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bysprunk (209.16) sprunk Send Message
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No, the jokeis that theism is mythology.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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If you mean that "theism" is a nonsensical term that silly "atheists" use to defame people of faith, then you are absolutely correct.
"(a)theism" is a joke.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bysprunk (209.16) sprunk Send Message
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No. That's not what I meant at all, and I'm still absolutly correct.
Theism is not a nonsensical term, nor is it wielded exclusivly by non-theists. You either don't grasp what words mean or your obfuscation boarders on blatant intelletual dishonesty.
THEISM is by defintion the belief in the existence of a god or gods. Such an allegorical narritive dealing with the gods, demigods, and legendary heroes of a particular people is by definiton MYTHOLOGY. Faith in such mythology by definiton CRE More..
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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Nobody refers to themselves as a "theist," you cluck.
Tryharder.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bysprunk (209.16) sprunk Send Message
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Actually, yes, many do. There are even polytheists to go with those monotheists. Infact you can't rely pratice theology of any sort without acknowledging the practice of theism, and therefore theism.
"Nobody"?
Try harder yourself.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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Mother Theresa never said that she didn't believe in God.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bycat-scratch-fever (521.84) cat-scratch-fever View Channel Send Message
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Mother Teresa's letters actually quite explicitly reveal that she had deep doubts about her faith and belief in God.
Whether she finally outright rejectected christian mythology is besides the point. Clearly her "sainthood" was more of a poltical or buisness decision to safe face on the part of the church.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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It's hard enough for people to swallow their pride to the point that they can question their own beliefs. When made to feel guilty about it and threatened with eternal hellfire it's got to be almost impossible. That shows that she had a lot of character and courage. But it also shows how dysfunctional religion is.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByIntellectual (771.64) Intellectual View Channel Send Message
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Many saints in their spiritual writings have documented the "dark night of the soul" as it is often called. Anybody who confuses this event with apostacy is an idiot.
Hitchens' attempt to defame a little old lady who was one of most visible and truly great heroes of our time was a major league bluinder in every respect except that he made some money selling his book to fellow douchebags.
Hitchens' spectacularly unsuccessful attempt to defame Mother Teresa with his book played a More..
Posted Jan-27-2010 Byjohn731863 (512.12) 
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Hutchens is grasping at straws.
All TRUE people of faith encounter moments of doubt.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bysprunk (209.16) sprunk Send Message
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Ah, the "No True Scottsman" fallacy applied to the CREDULITY of the mythologically faithful.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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Don't try to blame your willful ignorance on me, heretic.
I've tried on more than one occasion to teach you, but you refuse to learn.
So be it.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bysprunk (209.16) sprunk Send Message
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Heretic1 Now THAT'S a word we don't hear enough anymore! It would be SPECTACULAR if the religious right started calling people heretics...they can start with me!
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bygregsto (2476.38) 
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While I appreciate the gesture, and am pleased to ablige, are you quite sure you want to be associated with the likes of the heretical Rev. Entinlude?
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bysprunk (209.16) sprunk Send Message
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Why, yes! Yes, that will be just fine! Galileo is fine company too...but that deluded whore Joan of Arc can step back.
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bygregsto (2476.38) 
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"If God is Santa Claus for adults than that means he is real." LMAO.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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Religion - set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe. Therefore atheism is a religion. This is the true definition.
If god is the adult santa claus, then star trek is the adult form of Darwinism.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByTheMagistrate (34.34) 
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Not only have you defined DISBELIEF of somehting as somehow being a BELEIF(go-go ANTONYMS),but you've defined 'religion' so vaugely as to render it useless.
Atheism has nothing to do with the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe. It's simpy a rejection of unevidenced mytholigcal theistic claims.
god=santa claus; as star trek=evolution?
Clearly you fail to grasp the difference between MYTHOLOGY, SCIENCE FICITON, and BIOLOGY.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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no that is not the true definition.
you do realize there is physical evidence .. which you can examine yourself - in favor of the theory of evolution... no such thing as "Darwinism".
and at least Star Trek exists...
Posted Jan-26-2010 Byrahn-13 (74.46) 
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Both are unproven faiths. The rules of the universe change every decade, and the theists contradict themselves weekly.
But who am I to argue with a comic book / stark trek fanboy. Clearly you are used to empty, lengthy arguments that prove the unprovable.
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByTheMagistrate (34.34) 
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No, atheism isn't a faith. It's a rejection of a specific claim made without evidence:theism.
Nor is atheism tantamount to science, which is the study of the evidence in nature. This owuld be the difference between SUPERNATURAL and NATURAl,w hich you seem unwilling or unable to sort.
The rules of the universe change every decade, and the theists contradict themselves weekly? since when? Perhaps our understanding of them does, but that's to be expected since knowledge is TENTATIVE and de More..
Posted Jan-26-2010 ByEntinlude (1588.00) Entinlude View Channel Send Message
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How is evolution an unproven faith? We've actually observed it in the lab.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment
Here's another good site too look at since you don't quite grasp the whole theory. Unlike the Yaweh myth, evolution is supported by great amounts of evidence.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
Posted Jan-26-2010 Bydrivertyler (130.02) drivertyler View Channel Send Message
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