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America’s pathetic and cruel healthcare system and the GOP’s cynical efforts to preserve it



As the National Post reported Thursday, a republican American advocacy group is seeking to cast doubt on Obamacare by linking it to the failures of Canada’s single-payer health system. The star of the group’s $6.3-million ad campaign is Waterdown, Ont. resident Shona Holmes, who received neurological treatment in the United States for conditions that, she flatly claims, might have rendered her blind or dead had she waited for treatment here in Canada.

The real facts of her case turn out to be more complicated. As the media has reported, some Canadian specialists who have studied her case say Ms. Holmes’ condition actually was a benign cyst, which did not qualify, in her context, as a medical emergency. These experts also say that in cases where a patient is believed to have serious neurological problems, the Canadian health system responds “immediately.”

I have no special insight into the medical details of Ms. Holmes’ case. But as an everyday consumer of the Canadian health system, her story rings odd. Our system is hardly perfect (see below), but it springs to life with shocking speed as soon as any patient is in genuinely urgent distress. The hospital in my neighbourhood once made me wait 12 hours for treatment for my mildly infected arm. But when I brought my 6-month-old daughter in with breathing problems, the very same health system suddenly presented itself like a scene out of ER.

Isolated tragedies notwithstanding, lifespans in Canada are actually longer, and our rates of childhood mortality lower, than those in the United States. By turning Ms. Holmes into a propaganda figurine, conservative U.S. lobbyists are giving Americans a skewed, overly negative image of Canada’s universal health system.

Where the Canadian health system is sluggish and riddled with delays is in the area of elective surgery, including orthopedic procedures; as well as radiological imaging, which sometimes involves multi-month waiting lists. When a condition does not present as life-threatening at the primary-care level, just getting an appointment with a Canadian specialist can take months. That part of Ms. Holmes’ narrative rings true.

One of my family members who lives in the Toronto area, for instance, suffers from acute osteoarthritis; and recently found herself in need of a knee replacement. Her local Canadian doctor told her she could get one — for free, of course — but that it would take more than a year. Unwilling to spend 12 months on crutches and pain killers, she called up a hospital near her retirement community in Naples, Florida. They said she could get the replacement done within two weeks — but at a cost of $60,000.

And therein lies the real difference between the two systems. While both do a good job when a patient’s life is on the line, the American one also gives the wealthy and well-insured gold-plated service in the elective domain, not to mention an all-you-can-scan buffet of high-tech diagnostics. I had a taste of this when I lived in the United States as a university student, enjoying an all-inclusive health plan that made me feel like I was back in Canada, minus the waiting lists.

This, at root, is why there is so much opposition to Obamacare: Most middle-class, middle-aged Americans typically already have solid health care plans — as do elderly Americans, who have been covered by “Canadian-style” medicare for generations. They see Obamacare as a form of socialist meddling whose benefits will be felt primarily by people who are on average poorer (and blacker) than themselves. And there is some truth to that.

Yet the needs of those poor patients are real, and it is a scandal that this extraordinarily rich country contains almost 50-million people who lack any form of health insurance. According to one advocacy group, 26,000 Americans die every year due to a lack of health insurance.

Perhaps instead of focusing on dubious Canadian medical tales such as that of Ms. Holmes, Americans should focus on curing this ongoing moral disgrace — a project that Mitt Romney took on in Massachusetts, to his great credit, and now has abandoned for the sake of indulging his party’s free-market dogma, to his great shame.

Every year, I drive through Massachusetts — and New Hampshire, and New York, and Vermont — en route from my home in Toronto to our family’s traditional summer vacation spot in Ogunquit, Maine. And every year, I make a habit of taking secondary country roads, to enjoy the region’s beautiful small-town landscapes.

But on the bulletin boards at gas stations and general stores, you often can see the names of the forgotten victims of America’s health system traced out in ballpoint pen: notices seeking donations so this or that poor local family can buy cancer care for their child, or diabetes treatment for an uncle. You will sometimes see collection jars on the counter at diners, or yard sales, with homemade labels soliciting donations for a stroke victim, or a crippled senior. These ballpoint-pen people are America’s answer to Shona Holmes.

It is a stain on the United States that they are so legion. And a stain on the Republican Party that they have resisted efforts to bring them the universal health coverage that is available in every other developed country on earth — including, thankfully, Canada.----

Source: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/09/06/jonathan-kay-on-americas-cruel-healthcare-system-and-the-gops-cynical-efforts-to-preserve-it/


Added: Sep-6-2012 Occurred On: Sep-6-2012
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  • They'll never get it , too many bucks are made screwing them over in the status quo . They grew the monster too big to slay .
    But they'll be remembered for it in history I'm sure .

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  • The only thing pathetic is the amount of time you spend basking the US. Yes we have problems, but it sure beats the UK

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    • @Chickenfried
      Yeah, this guy is a bit obsessed with our great land. Maybe he feels inferior.

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    • @Chickenfried uk is ranked 18th in world for healthcare the us is 37th i could continue chucking facts at you that the uk is vastly superior to the us for education etc but i wont

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    • @bogey69
      Obviously your UK healthcare statistics don't include dental care. If the UK is so great, why does EVERYONE want the fuck out of your dominion? Well, that is to say, Scotland and No. Ireland, since those are the only poor saps you have left.

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    • @Enod in fact they do include dental care fatty and you forgot the welsh by the way,its called the united kingdom for a reason you fuckin mong.. pick up a book or use google rather than wasting your bandwith watching donkey porn or downloading recipes on how to further your bacon cooking experiances...... ta ta you thick fucker

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  • You wanna know what Obama care will really look like? Just look at Americas glorious VA system.

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    • @Rob8729
      aim lower like Canada or the UK where the hospitals close or people die waiting to get a simple test

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    • @Rob8729 Oh yeah. When were we gonna get around to fixing that, again? Oh wait, nobody fucking cares.

      Which is a god damned travesty.

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    • @aranger45 Well if you have suspected cancer,ie skin cancer,or tumour its two weeks max to see a specialist.Or you can pay private,and see one right away.I know because i suspected skin cancer a few months ago.The day i saw the specialist,they took me down to surgery that day and cut it out.In my case it was non cancerous.It did cross my mind to pay for private,but was told by the time i waited for biopsy results,it would make no differance.

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    • @aranger45

      those are rare events here in Canada. Do they happen? yes they do...however, for serious shit, they take you in right away. I've had two surgeries in the last couple of years. total cost to me was 65 bucks the first time, and 35 bucks the second. My monthly health care insurance (governmental) costs me 120 bucks a month. The same procedure in the US, with OR time, would have cost me 25K each time. While I do know that many people in the US have hmo's, the truth is that many do not. More..

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  • Why should I pay $800 bucks a month for health insurance I don't use, while the welfare mammy with her seven kids in New Orleans doesn't have to pay a dime?

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    • @Enod You don't have to. You can just pay your fine! Don't you love the democrat way?

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    • @Enod So what are you saying,you dont give fuck about American children?

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    • @drivenwell2
      What I said is I shouldn't have to pay $800 a month while the welfare rat mother doesn't pay shit.

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    • @Enod There will always be the haves,and the have nots,in any society.So should she or her children, not recieve medical treatment?After all its not the kids fault,that their mothers a sponger.You see i think charity should start in our own countries.Fuck giving aid to third world mtfers,like India,and pakistan.If they are British born they should get the best start in life.That way there is more chance they will turn into hard working citizens,and not welfare fodder.

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    • @drivenwell2
      Maybe for Britons it's different. As far as American negroes go, you'd have more of a chance burying their feet and hoping they grow into banana trees than you would hoping they become hard working, productive citizens. And meanwhile, I'm out $800 bucks a month!

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  • Americans believe the bullshit propaganda spoon fed to them and its disappointing. I had a hormonal imbalance last year which was a micro tumor on my pituitary gland. I was in for a CT in 2 weeks, in for an MRI in a little over a month. Its a benign tumor and wont cause any problems, my hormones went back to normal levels and knowing that was probably the case I still received prompt exploration for the condition to be certain...


    In the USA I would have most likely been denied any type of a More..

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    • @tymoss You obviously know very little about our health care. The biggest problem we have is government intrusion.

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    • @tymoss Unfortunately, that was not in the fuckhuge tax bill that we passed that was labeled "healthcare" but nobody fucking read before voting on it.

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    • @tymoss

      I agree but don't try to explain it to these idiots on LL.

      We have Universal Healthcare in NZ and you won't find one kiwi (left or right) who would want our system to change. Not one.

      Nearly forgot, it costs us less than 8% of our GDP not 13% plus (USA). Win win


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    • @God_Himself I read 16% in the USA. How is that even possible? They just dump money in and people dont get care and then the hospitals squeeze it all out??

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    • @lonewolf6972 Just looking at the #s how do we spend 10% of our GDP on healthcare, the USA spends 16% (wikipedia) and you guys get no inherent support? Someones getting huge cash outta your govt but your getting nothing for it.

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  • Great post... I think if Americans only knew how the 'real' health care economy works, there would be more of an effort to thwart it's success... Both Romneycare and Obamacare address one simple fact... If everyone had health care coverage, the cost of health care would go down...

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    • @ILovePickles My friend you are so wrong on your assessment of Romney care.

      While it's true that most Massachusetts residents are covered now and many of them get the coverage quite inexpensively.

      The average person here, that either has to contribute a bit through their employer or heaven forbid have to buy their own insurance, have experienced skyrocketing costs for that insurance.

      At the present time my insurance costs me more per month than my mortgage and homeowners insurance combined.

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    • @aussite Ever think that the reason for that is because the insurance companies and hospitals want to discourage and discredit the whole process? It would stand to benefit them immensely.

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    • @tymoss Decent point but bottom line is that we are currently being raked over the coals so that every one is covered.

      So mandated insurance sure doesn't give us the utopian experience that every one says it will.

      Please don't forget the small fact that the state of Mass dictates who we can sell insurance here. This is not free market by any means.

      If we are lucky we may have a whole six different companies to choose from and when you get into the fine print they're all so homogenized that More..

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    • @aussite I get what youre saying. Its unfortunate to have a profit driven healthcare system. If the hospital has to turn a profit and the insurers have to turn a profit, it just makes the whole system flawed.

      Money cant drive everything, because profit counts more than people, good bad and ugly included. And even the unfortunate deserve to be healthy. (someones gonna say the 35 year old unempleyed lady with 6 kids gets the same as me whhaa whhaaa) Her kids had the misfortune of being poo More..

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  • Bla..bla..bla..

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  • They have to beg money at gas stations to pay for live-saving medical treatment!! Wow - that really is sad!

    World's greatest country - NOT!

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    • @Nepean109 As usual you have nothing of any value to add to the conversation.

      Just go on about your evening thumbing down comments that you are too stupid to even understand.

      Cheers!

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    • @Nepean109 Hey, doesn't your parliment have a rule about all bills must be read through in their entirety twice on the floor before being voted on? Cause nobody read this shit before it was passed. NOBODY.

      I like your rule. We need that here. In the meantime, just because someone slaps the title "Healthcare" on a bill here doesn't mean that that bill has fuckall to do with actually helping anyone.

      Our politics are severely fucked up here. And that would be a quote from my native born More..

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  • I'll sum this up real simple. You see that picture up top with the pill full of money? That's not our current health care system. That's obamacare.

    I'm not saying that we don't need some major health care reform. But I am saying that obamacare is not what we need. At all. And the people that wrote it knew damn well it wasn't what we needed or wanted long before they forced it through a vote without anyone reading it. Which I have a major problem with.

    You wanna vote on something? You READ it. More..

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  • o you can try to make this matter a party issue but the fact is that obamacare package has to go,it's not going to help america or it's people,what's wrong with the healthcare system in this country is the medical care providers and the insurance companies are charging way to much money,ppl don't go to med school because they want to help ppl,that's the first problem,they go to med school because they want to be rich and only work half days,once or twice per week,we don't need 2k pages of legisl More..

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  • The problem with the US Health System is that the corporations are monopolizing every part of it, block any regulation that would prevent waste or abuse, and stick the government - and the US population - with the bill for outrageous cost of service. The US government regulates EVERY part of the medical field except cost of service. The government should set a specific treatment reimbursement level and tax the doctor or hospital heavily for going over said limit without reason.

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  • BTW, the part where this fine fiction writer says that you can find all these people begging for money in Mass for treatment is total bullshit.

    We've had mandated insurance for several years now ala Romney Care.

    The last time I read anything about it, less than 5% of the legal residents here had no insurance.

    If they don't have it, it"s just because they're too dam lazy to fill out the paperwork.

    Money is not the problem as we have plenty of working folk paying through the nose so some More..

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