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Growing number of US soldier suicides
Part of channel(s): Jonathan Bartlett lost his legs while fighting as a US army soldier in
Iraq. He recovered remarkably well and strove to graduate with a
business management degree and then got a job.
Two months ago,
however, he shot himself while in the shower, leaving a message to his
friends and family saying that he wanted to be forgotten.
While
Bartlett is not counted as a casualty of war as he no longer wore the
uniform, he joined the same fate as 154 active-duty US troops who
committed suicide in the first 155 days of the year alone.
Patty Culhane reports from Washington.
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Added: Jun-9-2012 Occurred On: Jun-9-2012
By: CptSpaulding
In: World News, Iraq, Afghanistan, Other Middle East
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More casualties from suicides than combat.
Says it all, right there.
Deceive a moral man into doing immoral deeds and this is what the end result is when his conscience catches up with him.
Horribly fucking sad.
Posted Jun-9-2012 Bymichael567 (1928.80) michael567 View Channel Send Message
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Posted Jun-9-2012 Bymollycochon (3.10) mollycochon View Channel Send Message
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@michael567 You said it amen
Posted Jun-9-2012 Bymollycochon (3.10) mollycochon View Channel Send Message
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Well said!
However what does the say about the morality and conscience of the troops who post on Liveleak in zealous support of the wars?
Posted Jun-10-2012 ByCujo1234 (173.80) 
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They're a mix of men either caught up in the military's "group think tunnel vision," immoral adventurers, or deluded crusaders.
Posted Jun-10-2012 Bymichael567 (1928.80) michael567 View Channel Send Message
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Its the immoral adventurers who piss me off the most, especially when they belligerently proclaim themselves patriots.
Posted Jun-10-2012 ByCujo1234 (173.80) 
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Victims of the neocons new world order,military industrial complex and war profiteers.
Posted Jun-9-2012 Byzwaan1990 (7.40) 
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This is what happens when soldiers are forced to fight bogus wars, wars that have nothing to do with defending America.
Meanwhile arms manufacturers continue to make huge profits off the backs of hard working US taxpayers.
Posted Jun-9-2012 Bywerdum12 (253.80) 
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@werdum12 WE have dickheads like you that cant hack it and just sit behind the keyboard and strokes his cock. YOur one dumb mfer!
Posted Jun-9-2012 By11bravospec (31.50) 
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@11bravospec He ain't ours. He's sitting on the other side of the planet running his mouth.
Posted Jun-10-2012 Bykajidono (686.16) 
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Which part of my statement do you disagree with?
Posted Jun-10-2012 Bywerdum12 (253.80) 
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@werdum12 The slant to it. Like all wars are bogus, no war has anything to do with defending the country (as if the person saying has access to every little bit of information pertaining to it even though it's mostly classified and nobody on our level has ever seen it), and the whole "you make guns therefore you are evil" thing. It's old, played out, and downright irritating.
Posted Jun-10-2012 Bykajidono (686.16) 
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I don't know what Iraq has to do with 9/11? This is ridiculous. Iraq has never had links to al-Qaeda. I think most people, especially Americans, think the Iraq war was about 09/11. It was about war and George Bush's religious fantasies according to him. He said ''God'' asked him to wage Iraq's war and that this was a crusade against ''Islamic Fascism''. If you have a president who is stupid like that, then this is what you get.
Posted Jun-9-2012 Byshkshook (173.04) shkshook View Channel Send Message
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These are disposable men in the eyes of those that send them to war to make profit. Sad shit!!
Posted Jun-9-2012 ByLive2Race (168.10) 
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He have to ask GOD for forgivness.
Posted Jun-10-2012 ByAfganBushWacker (22.60) 
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This is the truth
Posted Jun-10-2012 ByNick Yancey (2.70) Nick Yancey View Channel Send Message
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@AfganBushWacker Who is God?
Posted Jun-10-2012 ByMarine5811 (96.24) 
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The guy behind the counter at the Deli, his name is Jesus.
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByTabestan (51.70) 
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@Tabestan LMFAO
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByMarine5811 (96.24) 
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Another business management degree suicide?
When will they all learn, and when will the carnage end?
Posted Jun-9-2012 Bywharris (2245.12) 
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So he wanted to punish the people who did his country harm on 9/11, so he joined in to attack Iraq? I mean, nahh nevermind.
Posted Jun-9-2012 ByKrupp (106.90) Krupp View Channel Send Message
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I think it'd be more accurate to say he "got sent to" Iraq. Soldiers can't pick and choose the wars into which they get tossed.
It was pretty clear he was greatly disappointed in having to serve in a war against a country that had fuckall to do with the 9/11 incident. And then to be injured like that in the process?
I don't think he should have killed himself, but I can sort of imagine a little of his anger and resentment.
Sad stuff.
Posted Jun-9-2012 ByVitriolKOF (73.30) 
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Bush and Rumsfeld told him "you are either with us, or you are against us" and he took them seriously. Big mistake. Now he won't be easting any freedom fries anymore. They tasted like shit anyway.
Posted Jun-9-2012 ByValerie2007 (755.32) 
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@Valerie2007 Please watch documentry called 'ripple effect' on youtube its regarding 7/7. Also cheak out sheikh imran hosein channel on youtube which really helps its an eye opener on the realities of the world today.
Posted Jun-9-2012 Bymammon (83.64) mammon View Channel Send Message
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Man, god bless that dude. So much left in his life... R.I.P
Posted Jun-14-2012 BySperm_Whale (80.30) 
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It saddens me to hear stories like this. Unfortunately, we are fighting against a concept that we teach in the military. "When you have feeling tired, hurt or unsure; suck it up and drive on." When a soldier feel overwhelmed and suicidal, its hard to catch because his/her first instinct is not to talk about it but put it aside and keep fighting. By the time they realize where they are its too late and they can think about is 'its time to do this', time to stop thinking and start ac More..
Posted Jun-16-2012 Bymabutoo (194.66) 
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@mabutoo Thanks for the post
Posted Jun-18-2012 ByBoneyards (183.80) 
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I'd kill myself too, once I realized that I was just a tool for the MIC. The projected societal illusion that you can be happy and have a good life with no legs, after killing innocent people for for no civilized reason, is just a delusion.
Posted Jun-9-2012 Bykrrrrazyk (47.80) krrrrazyk View Channel Send Message
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@krrrrazyk When the machine breaks down so does the man. Should've read the stories from all the guys coming back from ww1 to know that war is not good for the brain.
Posted Jun-11-2012 Bylowski (67.10) lowski View Channel Send Message
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Is this propaganda?
Posted Jun-9-2012 ByMAKMAK (2404.50) MAKMAK View Channel Send Message
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@MAKMAK No, just the reality of things. The rate among Iraq and Afghanistan war vets is quite high.
Posted Jun-9-2012 ByCheeseman (209.72) 
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@MAKMAK ooooh....do you think?
Posted Jun-9-2012 Bykachin (176.44) kachin View Channel Send Message
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@Cheeseman dickhead
Posted Jun-9-2012 Bykachin (176.44) kachin View Channel Send Message
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@Cheeseman If you had no legs, or just one part of an arm, I think you might want to kill yourself too... unless you were one of those, you know, stronger people who can "use what they have got". Everyone can serve a purpose one way or another, usually
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Between being legless or dead I prefer being legless. Death is inevitable so why rush it?
Posted Jun-9-2012 ByMAKMAK (2404.50) MAKMAK View Channel Send Message
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tokyo rose, at it again.
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You mean Fox News?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/08/suicides-are-surging-among-us-troops-pentagon-statistics-show/
Posted Jun-10-2012 ByCujo1234 (173.80) 
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