October 18th, 2012
01:23 PM ET
This is part of a series on foreign policy issues Christiane Amanpour is analyzing in the-lead up to next week’s presidential debate on foreign affairs.
By Christiane Amanpour, CNN & ABC
After 9/11, Afghanistan truly was a “War of Necessity”. There was an unusual consensus, not just among the U.S. and NATO powers, but in many parts of the world, including in Iran and other Muslim countries, that Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda and the Taliban who hosted them had to be defeated.
And after they were sent packing from the Afghan battlefield, an extraordinary thing happened. The Afghan people supported the intervention. The land known as the Graveyard of Empires welcomed the new “invaders.” They knew that they had not come to occupy or do harm, but to help achieve a better future after decades of non-stop war and wholesale devastation – not only of infrastructure and institutions, but also the most basic human rights and freedoms.
As the Taliban were forced out of Kabul in November 2001, Afghan men, as well as women and children, voted with their feet. They marched to demand equal education rights for all, including girls, and thus for a more progressive future than the medieval reality the Taliban and the other Mujaheddin fighters had inflicted on them.
Suddenly the head of the international forces was the new Afghan hero. For a precious couple of years, most of the important indicators –like corruption, child mortality, education and poverty – were heading in a rare upward the right direction. This rare time of hope lasted until President George W. Bush decided to fight a “War of Choice” in Iraq.
The best military minds and commanders, the best resources and attention were suddenly diverted to Iraq, and Afghanistan paid the price. As the Taliban ramped up their presence and their insurgency again, civilians were killed, international forces too, and slowly but surely Afghanistan descended into war again. The once-in-a-generation chance to put back the pieces of this vital Muslim country seems to be slipping away.
Will the presidential election make a difference?
Not much. Both President Barack Obama and challenger Governor Mitt Romney are now committed to ending the war and withdrawing by the end of 2014.
Obama
When he came into office, President Obama, tried to reverse the tide of war and leave Afghanistan in a position of greater strength by ordering a surge of 30,000 U.S. troops in December 2009. At its peak, there were about 100,000 U.S. forces in the embattled country.
But now, in an election year, with a weak U.S. economic recovery and with the American people tired of war, all 30,000 of the surge troops came home by the end of September.
In a visit to Afghanistan in May, Obama said, "We are pursuing a negotiated peace. In coordination with the Afghan government, my administration has been in direct discussions with the Taliban.”
These talks have so far gone nowhere.
Biden
In the vice presidential debates last week, Vice President Biden said, “We are leaving. We are leaving in 2014. Period. And in the process, we're going to be saving over the next 10 years another $800 billion. We've been in this war for over a decade. The primary objective is almost completed. Now, all we're doing is putting the Kabul government in a position to be able to maintain their own security. It's their responsibility, not America's.”
Biden practically washed the U.S. hands of what happens next in Afghanistan. And the objectives he says are almost completed? Not exactly. Many Afghans fear that the moment international forces leave all will be lost in Afghanistan.
Obama’s initial strategy had been to beat the Taliban into submission so that they would come to the negotiating table, and also crucially to build up the Afghan Army to take over security from U.S. and NATO forces. So far neither mission has been accomplished.
To try to preserve more than a decade’s investment in blood and treasure made by the U.S. and the world, the U.S. has pledged to leave a residual force in Afghanistan: thousands of training troops and special forces for counter-terrorism operations. But those details have yet to be worked out with the Afghan government.
Romney
The governor has taken a long time to articulate his vision for Afghanistan. He omitted the topic entirely from his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in August.
But he did raise it when he delivered his first major foreign policy speech of the campaign at the Virginia Military Institute on October 8,agreeing with the President’s exit timetable, while taking political shots.
“I will pursue a real and successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014,” Romney said. “President Obama would have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions in Afghanistan is arguing for endless war. But the route to more war – and to potential attacks here at home – is a politically timed retreat that abandons the Afghan people to the same extremists who ravaged their country and used it to launch the attacks of 9/11.”
He added, “I will evaluate conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of our military commanders.”
So is Romney leaving the door open to extending the U.S. stay? Not clear. But he rejects Obama’s policy of talks with the Taliban.
"We don't negotiate with terrorists. I do not negotiate with the Taliban. That's something for the Afghans to decide how they're going to ... pursue their course in the future," he said last year during a Republican primary debate.
Ryan
Romney’s running-mate, Paul Ryan, criticized the Obama administration in the vice presidential debate last week but didn’t commit to a longer timeline in Afghanistan.
“We don't want to lose the gains we've gotten,” Ryan said. “We want to make sure that the Taliban does not come back in and give al-Qaeda a safe haven. We agree with the administration on their 2014 transition.... What we don't want to do is lose the gains we've gotten.”
So, no big difference between the two parties. And no real assurances that any exit will be safe.
This past Sunday, The New York Times threw up its hands, and in a devastating editorial, called for the U.S. to start withdrawing from Afghanistan now. After more than 2,000 U.S. deaths and more than 17,000 severely wounded, the Times says the war which had powerful support at the start, has bled that support away.
The Times points out that coming into office, Obama called Afghanistan a “war we have to win”.
What a tragedy then for Afghanistan, for the United States and for all the nations who fought for a better future to come to this realization: Mission Not Accomplished.
By: BekasKhan
In: Afghanistan
Tags: Afghanistan, occupation, by, US, NATO, Taliban, Pakistan, terrorist, Punjabi, ISI, Al, Qaeda
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Of course Mission Not Accomplished, nobody has ever managed to civilise that part of the world, who the hell is the arrogant little twat who believed he could do it?
Let's lynch him...
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByValerie2007 (756.22) 
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The winners - The Taliban and the Military Industrial Complex.
The losers - the struggling American Taxpayers, US soldiers -(over 2000 dead,20,000 wounded), The Afghan people - (20,000 dead,100,000 wounded).
Posted Oct-19-2012 Bywerdum12 (254.00) 
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It would be disaster for the world, grater disaster then Iran nuclear weapon, if the world let Porkies terrorist nuclear army to win this war again. the world already experienced such mistake at 90's when Taliban named (ISI army) took control of Afghanistan and made hell life of 30 million afghans which end up by 9/11 and many more disasters.
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByAfghancitizen (3.10) 
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@Afghancitizen hey tajik shit you are a bachabazz tajik massod bitch was your sister fucked by a cia or russia like ahmak shit massod or ratbanny
Posted Oct-19-2012 Byomaid787 (0.40) 
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@Afghancitizen stop claiming to be afghan you pice of tajik shit
Posted Oct-19-2012 Byomaid787 (0.40) 
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@Afghancitizen thats bulshit! stop spreading shit! you piece of shit! it was the criminal ahmad sha masoud and Hekmatyar who destroyed afghanistan! specialy kabul and kandahar! it was masoud who killed millions of Afghans! and by the way i hate both of them taliban and the koss modar masoud!
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByAfghanburger (273.70) 
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@Afghanburger so nice thanx for kind reminder fuck all of them along with m.f... communists, and ISI agents and so on.... lats come and make our country, its close to be fucked again by ISI
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByAfghancitizen (3.10) 
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@omaid787 yooo ISI Porkie let me tell u that, I can see that you covered your name with US flag but the world people hate you pigs like shit, terrorist army Porkies
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByAfghancitizen (3.10) 
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Destroy pakistan end terrorism,then go for China.
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByDCX (345.80) 
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@DCX i agree with destroying pakistan.. but not the other part..
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByAfghanburger (273.70) 
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@DCX
The First Part Works For Both Of US and As Well For the Entire Region.
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByAfghanFighter (162.22) 
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"mission not accomplished"
What mission is that? Smash Al Qaeda and terrorist networks, and we've done that. Of course stupid people can't understand the fact that new death-cult nazis keep signing up to die doesn't change anything. The soldiers are leaving, because they have nothing left to do. Continuing to crush the cave-nazis in their camps and compounds and caves, can be done with drones. And will be done with drones. In Afghanista/Yemen/Pakistan. So, what mission hasn't been acco More..
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByST0N3PONY (5065.72) 
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@ST0N3PONY Ive been saying this for so long. People are retarded.
Posted Oct-20-2012 Bydl659 (46.80) 
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I have an idea.
We should pull out of Afghanistan, then stage an all-out invasion of Pakistan. The ISI should die to the last man, the madrasas should be leveled to the last stone, the nukes secured and removed, and A.Q.Khan hanged in public as an enemy of humanity.
THEN we can go back into Afghanistan and easily straighten the place out.
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByNotJim (1013.10) 
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@NotJim lol man it would be nice, be consider this when you will be going to poll for up coming election
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByAfghancitizen (3.10) 
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@NotJim yeah. about your plan ?...about those nukes....they'd be launched and used before the time you're able to secure and remove them...
Posted Oct-19-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.64) 
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@mylostsoul
I don't think so.
To use those nukes is to be annihilated. Which, now I think of it, might be a fitting fate for quite a few Pakistanis. But really, most aren't so bad. It would be a bit of a shame.
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByNotJim (1013.10) 
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@NotJim most paki's aint bad at all to be honest...met a few, worked with a few, friends with a few...most think their gov is a joke and corrupt....they can't stand the taliban....it was refreshing to see that most were educated and understood wtf was going on...they are a pretty liberal society for an islam one
Posted Oct-19-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.64) 
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@Afghancitizen hey are you a born again cristian jesus died for your sin
Posted Oct-19-2012 Byomaid787 (0.40) 
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YES i hope so, i really hope the average paki wakes up and realizes how fucked up and corrupt their government is
Posted Oct-19-2012 Bymylostsoul (736.64) 
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Mission Not Accomplished !!!
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByAfghanFighter (162.22) 
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The world would be a much better place if america bombed pakistan
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByOmniscient (30.90) 
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nuke all muslim countrys...lets end the year on a high...
Posted Oct-19-2012 Byfat belly (807.46) 
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@fat belly be cool babe its far from u r understanding
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByAfghancitizen (3.10) 
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@Afghancitizen nuke all the tajiks in tajikistan and afghanistan
Posted Oct-19-2012 Byomaid787 (0.40) 
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@omaid787 fukereeee world gonna nuke ISI and Porkeis crazy Gov, what they did for their people development, education what ???? most of Pakistan live in poverty and hunger. If your faking corrupt government would spend a 10 % of army budget on health and education Pakistan people and the world would be in better position now, illiterate nuclear power
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByAfghancitizen (3.10) 
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@Afghancitizen shut the fuck up change your flag to tajikistan and i dont understand your gebirish where the fuck did you get these stats from , let me guess fagot massod who was a child molester or your striper mom
Posted Oct-21-2012 Byomaid787 (0.40) 
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Its responsibility of all Muslim, Christian, Jesus and non believers to help humanity and make world better place to live side by side
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByAfghancitizen (3.10) 
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@Afghancitizen shut the fuck up cocknocker!
Posted Oct-19-2012 ByAfghanburger (273.70) 
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@Afghanburger yooo old dog, even you could become human and came back, your M.F... Khalq Parcham's are making new political organization in kabul
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByAfghancitizen (3.10) 
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@Afghancitizen you mr cunt! stop spreading bulshit! you know nothing about afghanistan , you afghan wannabe!
Posted Oct-20-2012 ByAfghanburger (273.70) 
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