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U.S. Government Prohibits Sale Of Super High-Mileage Cars in U.S.

I watched this video, and then looked around on the internet and found this article on the subject. What do you LLers think about this???





There is a big problem with high-mileage cars -- from the point-of-view of the government.

Less revenue.

Imagine an 80 MPG car -- which could be built right now, easily, with existing technology. (Several current European models are already pretty close to the 80 MPG bar.)

Such a car could cut the average person's fuel costs by two-thirds -- in effect, putting things back the way they were circa 1986, when gasoline still cost about $1 per gallon. It would do a great deal to ease the economic pressure bearing down on the average person. But if tens of millions of Americans were suddenly using two-thirds less fuel, they'd also be paying two-thirds less in motor fuels taxes.

You don't have to be a conspiracy nut to wonder what effect contemplation of this possibility has had on government policy.

Even assuming the most benevolent, public-spirited intentions, the situation is a debacle in the making. If revenue derived from motor fuels taxes declined by 20-30 percent, there would be that much less revenue available to maintain existing roads -- and build new ones. Meanwhile, the population is galloping upward -- more people, more cars. Where will the money come from to keep pace?

There is always the possibility of making up the shortfall some other way -- but the beauty of the motor fuels tax, historically, is that it's a largely hidden tax. The average motorist is not made to confront the bill in the same way that he's made to confront, say, the sales tax on the food he buys after gassing up. Because unlike the food on which he pays a tax in addition to the cost of the food itself, the motor fuels tax is discreetly folded into the cost of the fuel. One does not pay $2.40 a gallon -- plus 80 cents per gallon in taxes. One just pays the $3.20 per gallon.

Thus, "big oil" takes most of the heat -- rather than big government.

Motor fuels taxes are regressive and confiscatory. Other than "sin taxes" on cigarettes, it's hard to come up with a product -- in the case of gas, a necessary staple -- that is taxed at a rate equivalent to about 30 percent (or more) of the cost of the actual item itself. And unlike cigarettes, most of us have no choice about buying gas. It's an ingenious trap that government has set for us: First, use taxes (in the form of tax incentives as well as the use of taxes as such) to fund artificial, unnatural growth -- in particular, the artificial, unnatural growth of highways and other roads. Highways and roads that would not have been built until real demand -- as opposed to government "stimulated" demand -- made an economic case for their construction. The artificially induced roads encourage sprawl -- more government subsidized "growth" -- of homes and retail areas that, in turn, encourage more driving, more consumption, which in turn funds more artificial growth.

And the cycle is complete.

But, the cycle depends on people continuing to pay the necessary amount of motor fuels tax in order to keep it going. Very high-mileage cars would throw a wrench in the gears. In order to perpetuate the cycle, alternative revenue sources would have to be found -- and tapped. Where will the money come from? At the federal level, more "qualitative easing" -- that is, creating more money -- is always possible. But at the state and local level, there's no such option. Either fewer roads will be built -- and existing roads not kept up as they might have been. Or there will be new taxes to cover the spread. The problem is that socking people with the equivalent of a 30 percent tax on a product they use every day -- and so must pay every day -- is not going to be an easy sell. People are used to hidden motor fuels taxes. They are not used to -- and may revolt over -- a new (and obvious) 30 percent tax on themiles they drive each week -- one of the proposals floated as an alternative to the motor fuels taxes. This latter idea is why test balloons have been floated by such as Progressive Insurance to see what the reaction might be to requiring that cars be fitted with GPS-based recording/transmitting devices. One of the potential uses of this technology would be to monitor exactly how often -- and how far -- we drive.

And charge us, accordingly.

But, it's a hot potato, politically. People -- most people -- may not be ready for that ... yet. In the meanwhile, it's easier to keep selling them gas pigs. They're sold as safegas pigs, of course. And late-model America leg humpssafety like an unfixed mongrel dog.

Probably we won't see 70 MPG-capable cars like the European-specVW Passat BlueMotion 1.6 TDI over here until the cost of fuel (via taxation) is comparable to what it is over there. At which point, the problem nicely solves itself. Meanwhile, expect more hot air -- more talk about high-mileage cars.

And much less action.

Or rather, less in the way of action to remove the regulatory stumbling blocks that make it all-but-impossible to build a genuinely economical car -- or even to import reasonably economical ones like the European Passat 1.6 TDI over here. What we'll get, instead, will be more cost and more cumbersome technology -- all nicely wrapped up in "safety" gift-wrap. In a few years, this will render new cars all-but-unaffordable.

And then, building new roads won't matter anymore.

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About the AuthorEric Peters is an automotive columnist and author of Automotive Atrocities: The Cars You Love to Hate (Motor Books International) and a new book, Road Hogs.


Added: Jun-5-2012 Occurred On: Jun-5-2012
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  • the sick thing is that these European models are manufactured in the US, but not allowed to be sold here

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  • On his Youtube channel this man apologizes for saying "the current administration". Here it is:

    *****UPDATE**** I am still upset with myself for saying "THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION". I understand that it is government regulations that crosses over all party lines. It was just that i had watch Obama talking about better milage cars and that was what upset me to make this video. Please understand I do not place the blame on him alone, this has been going on for decades. It More..

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  • Rebuttal: Transport Canada tested the Polo BlueMotion TDI and found it got 39mpg city, 59mpg highway. That's good, but nothing like 80mpg. And that's a smaller model than what this guy is talking about. And I'm sure they didn't test it with four people in it. So we're not talking about a car that runs forever on nothing but tap water and unicorn farts. These cars burn diesel, not gasoline.

    The state of California has mandated that carmakers need to produce minimum numbers of zero-emission More..

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    • @livewire242

      If it's not about the gax tax, the government should not be banning them.

      If a super high mileage vehicle won't sell, it won't sell. But I think it would sell.

      I'm not looking for an arguement over this source says this and that source says that, but was the VW they tested in Canada one of the European varieties or did it have North American style emissions equipment on it? In other words, were they comparing apples to apples?

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    • @marinemom

      As far as I can tell, European spec. Here's the most revealing part of their test results:

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      The 2008 VW Polo was designed to meet the Euro IV emissions standards. As is typical of all well-functioning diesel-powered vehicles, the carbon monoxide and hydrocarbon emissions values were well below Canadian standards. However, it would need to improve its particulate matter (PM) and nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions values in order to meet both Euro V and the average North American emi More..

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    • @livewire242 Here in Seattle and Bellevue every other car on the highway or interstate is a prius, even the cab companies use them. I'm not sure where you live, maybe people there are just stubborn.

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    • @livewire242

      We have a car that gets an average of 30 mpg on regular gas. It's hard to believe that that VW is stinkier with one gallon of fuel than our car is with two gallons.

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    • @livewire242

      Btw, you get thumbs for just taking the time to discuss.

      I commute, and I see hybrids and small fuel-efficient cars all over on my commute.

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  • fuck that.. im buying and import and getting it shipped over to the us

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  • I miss the days when I could drive from Lake Erie to the Gulf of Mexico without gasping at the expense.

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  • Hence how stupid politicians really are. Be environmentally and natural resource conscious to allow the higher efficiency, then increase the tax per gallon to be revenue neutral on road repair funds.

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  • the more gas people buy the more taxes the government collects..you think they would like everyone driving fuel sipping cars?...no way....

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    • @gizmo8

      In a perfect democracy/republic (and none are perfect), what the government does is regulated by the people.

      I would put more blame on big oil for such "regulations". Their lobby is just to big, to powerful, and with the the Supreme Courts recent rulings on campaign contributions from big biz, going to get worse.

      Do you really think they had nothing to do with any regulations restricting high mpg cars?

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    • @Drenigma

      of course oil companies have a huge influence in slowing down development in green cars..they spend millions hiring lobbyist to influence congress...

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    • @gizmo8

      Ok then we agree.....

      My next point......

      Do you think their (big biz) "power" with our government, and the current laws governing our election process have more, or less "power" than the basic voter (thats just "average Joe/Citizen")?

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  • Wow, this is completely fucked up. No surprise, though. Once again it all comes down to $$$$$$$$. And the government wants all of yours, so bend over. They are going to get it one way or the other.

    Why doesn't Romney jump all over this? He has too many friends he has to keep happy back in the state governments that need this tax money. Same for Obama. That is what is really going on here.

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  • In the UK we get cars reaching 88Mpg no problem, my good ladies VW Polo Bluemotion, a Kia Rio and a few others. There was one test of the Passat bluemotion and it went across america on one tank lol. The American Gov don't want their people just skipping from state to state without filling up.

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    • @thejizzom Or the US government could just do what the UK government has done and up the price of fuel to $9.87/gallon. I think the Uk needs to get an automobile association that can stand up to the government and actually have some effect.

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    • @zango1 agreed.our govt are greedy bastards.

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  • Ever heard of Planned Obsolescence?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bxzU1HFC7Q

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  • by the same token... there will be a long wait to see truly high speed trains in the US.
    the auto industry doesn't want it, nor do the oil barons... and then there's the aircraft industry.
    $$ means power. and it drives pretty much everything -
    -- when was the last time a cure for something was found?
    there is no cure, just ongoing treatment... which equals ongoing income. how many billions are poured into cancer research ? besides, you don't just suddenly eliminate a major leading cause of de More..

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  • Better be careful mom, You don't wanna get the gustopo after ya. It's a total crock of shit that they ban these high MPG cars here in the good ol usa, But it makes perfect sense out of a tyrannical operating outside of the law gov that we have here. These dam satanist couldn't do the right thing if it meant their life. I mean what kinda person are you when you know your decisions mean the suffering of millions of people yet you still do it anyway, That's a evil no good dirty satanists mofo is wh More..

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    • @teddysmith

      When they track me down I'll quote Clint Eastwood,

      "Get off my lawn."

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    • @marinemom HA that's funny right there mom, I gotta tell ya mom I just don't understand this place AT ALL. I mean they know they can do this with our cars right? Plus they know they can make a synthetic oil, Hell hitler's clan was making it in the forty's so I know they could. They know we could all have free never ending energy forever. They also know that if they would just stop pushing all this fighting all around the globe this world could be heaven on earth. It don't take a rocket scientist More..

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    • @teddysmith

      Ya know Teddy, when you first started commenting here, I did think you were not very nice. I'm glad we can talk cuz you're actually very sweet.

      I really am not sure why the government is keeping these ultra fuel efficient engines from Americans. Could be the tax thing, could be other reasons. I just put it out here to see what others think.

      I would love to see an end to war, but that is not our history as a race, and the world is a dangerous place with a lot of truly violent, More..

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  • You cannot allow the use of Japanese Kei cars when your highways are studded with incompetents driving monster SUVs and pickup trucks to the kid's soccer games! It would be foolish to introduce the smallest, most fuel efficient vehicles while the stupid-upper-middle class are allowed - actually, encouraged - to tool around in tanks!

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    • @Nepean109 You don't see SMART cars where you live? They are everywhere here, right next to Prius and Focus

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    • @Nepean109

      I have a 2002 Trans Am WS6 with a six speed. Not a commuter by a long shot. I've just loved Firebirds since I was a child. Figured that pushing 40 years old, I deserved a toy. It has less than 25k miles on it. Which shows, this....is a show car, a toy, excess. My other car is a Prius.

      Shortly after I bought that T/A in 2002, while filling up with gas, a women exclaimed "thats a beutiful car!!". I turned and said "thanks!". To which she responded "But I just More..

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  • Oh yeah! Its the government worried about taxes!

    Not big oil worried about the US being shackled to their tit!

    Big oil is NEVER at fault. They are good, honest, hard working CEO's and shareholders looking out for the best intrests of the American people.

    After all, those corporations are people now too.

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    • @Drenigma Don't worry about big oil. China and India now need more fuels. We all need to conserve.

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    • @Megadeth

      Thats what scares me now. They conastantly lobby to drill drill drill baby!!! Yet they want to sell the oil overseas. We still pay in blood, so they can reap a profit.

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  • I just bought an electric car last month. I haven't burned a drop of gas for the last 1100 miles, and thus, haven't spent a penny on gas tax.

    This removes the gas tax conspiracy theory and only leaves the fact that the people in government that are in charge of emissions aren't on the same page with the people in charge of fuel economy. If it was because of gas tax, my LEAF wouldn't be charging in my driveway right now because the US would have every reason to ban it.

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    • @diggingforgold

      You make a good point. It will be interesting to see if the government tries to put GPS in your car and start charging you by the mile someday.

      How far can you drive on a charge?

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    • @diggingforgold

      Also, was your LEAF more expensive than similiar sized cars with gas engines?

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    • @diggingforgold Could you update us on your first electric bill since you bought the leaf? I'm curious if the increase doesn't offset your gas savings. Thanks

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    • @diggingforgold i bet you'll pay more for your electricity bill though.

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    • @asylumta2
      My utility has a roughly 7.5 cent per kWh off-peak rate, separately metered. I usually charge at night at home and during the day at work if I feel like it. My cost is less than $20/mo. It would probably be close to $40/mo if I didn't charge at work. With my gas car, I was spending over $300/mo.

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