8 Tour Army Ranger Comits Suicide.
Part of channel(s): Afghanistan (current event)Said he couldn't live with what he had seen and done.
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Added: Aug-16-2011 Occurred On: Aug-16-2011
By: Tranejam
In: Afghanistan
Tags: us, army, ranger, suicide, karma, regret, guilt
Location: United States (load item map)
Marked as: approved
Views: 8236 | Comments: 177 | Votes: 2 | Favorites: 3 | Shared: 84 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 3
By: Tranejam
In: Afghanistan
Tags: us, army, ranger, suicide, karma, regret, guilt
Location: United States (load item map)
Marked as: approved
Views: 8236 | Comments: 177 | Votes: 2 | Favorites: 3 | Shared: 84 | Updates: 0 | Times used in channels: 3
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8 tours... fuck most guys are fucked after just 1.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Byjohn_b (366.78) 
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8 FRIKKEN TOURS?!!! Hell, if you did 3 tours in Vietnam they sent you home, period! And you had to volunteer for the second, and the third, they could not "Stop-Loss" you!! Anybody want to guess after which of the EIGHT tours did he stop volunteering but they sent him anyway?
Research after world war 2 found that after 200 "combat days" (exposed to enemy fire and/or possibly enemy action) a soldier was mentally worn out and almost non-functional. Many Iraq and Afghan v More..
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByEva_Destruction (2728.14) 
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@Eva_Destruction I agree, eight tours is insane.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Bybubbathegump (609.18) 
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@bubbathegump I will say this.. He was NOT forced into 8 fucking combat tours..I can guarantee you that!! He had many options with his career and his problems... and I doubt you will get the whole story..
Posted Aug-16-2011 Byflashj2 (729.30) 
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@Eva_Destruction
Exactly right, great comment
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByBlklight (1907.86) 
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@flashj2 I understand, he went on his own will. Why he would go eight times is beyond me.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Bybubbathegump (609.18) 
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@bubbathegump i wonder how many times he saw his own Captain Willard moments while signing the stupid papers.
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByEva_Destruction (2728.14) 
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Now I remember why I stay away from Liveleak comments. Thanks Ranger, for serving your country and for being the best of the breed. Sorry it weighed so heavy that you couldn't bear it and I'm sorry that you couldn't get the help you needed. And fuck those ones who disrespect you here.
Posted Aug-17-2011 ByJakeS (12.50) 
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8 tours..Wow that is intense
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByTexasPatriot (61.86) 
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I did a year and five months in the Marines all the training and was about to deploy. I didn't stay in as long as this man RIP. By the time I got to my unit I came to the conclusion that my chain of command was evil... the military was evil. I put up with the hazing and stupid traditions long enough to act with out questioning... witness hazing at its worst, and i was about to deploy to another country were they can just friendly fire my ass. I would know because those marines getting out were More..
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByThomas OHara (0.10) 
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@Thomas OHara cool story gomer...
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByJingo Rex (174.10) Jingo Rex Send Message
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@Thomas OHara Stay strong
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByILLHERBS (180.60) 
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@Thomas OHara Need a tissue?
Posted Aug-16-2011 Byflashj2 (729.30) 
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@Thomas OHara First of all it's spelled "PRAY" not "PREY", you jimmy-big fibber.
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByEva_Destruction (2728.14) 
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r.i.p
Posted Aug-16-2011 Bysnipershot (71.62) snipershot View Channel Send Message
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RIP!!! Command should pay more attention to these soldiers!! They need to put aside the macho attitude because good man are dying!! My unit lost more soldiers to suicide then war!! This should be a wake up call!!
Posted Aug-17-2011 Byrecon16 (132.52) recon16 View Channel Send Message
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Fuck politicians.
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByGeorgeBush (154.60) 
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8 tours! That's a lot of wading through the mud, the blood, and the beer! He's a victim of our cultural ethics which places guilt on killing, even if it's an enemy you're killing. Headhunters in Borneo, ancient Greeks, Persians, Romans, Vikings, Vandals, etc., didn't have that kind of guilt. They had glory. Just a cultural thing.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Byericredbeard (276.48) ericredbeard View Channel Send Message
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@ericredbeard They also cant really be called civilized cultures. Gladiator games, slaves, they would raid villages and burn them to the ground... ect.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Bystevecore (814.28) stevecore View Channel Send Message
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@stevecore True. But they slept very well at night. No guilt. Just glory or death.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Byericredbeard (276.48) ericredbeard View Channel Send Message
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@ericredbeard your right its sad but true
Posted Aug-17-2011 Byjuicemane59 (19.14) juicemane59 View Channel Send Message
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They should put all these bureaucrats, congressmen, senators and representatives and their children into the war that they have created. Fucking lying and deceiving piece of shit motherfuckers have brought this not only upon the US men and women who have to put themselves through the meatgrinder but upon millions of people in those countries who either have lost or will lose their lives for no good reason. But there is no end to this horseshit, the general population opposes these wars but they More..
Posted Aug-17-2011 Bybilla48 (303.80) billa48 View Channel Send Message
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RIP warrior. A concience can be your worst enemy.
Posted Aug-17-2011 Bydoobiegood (99.48) 
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I think soldiers should be screened and prepared for the horrors of war. Different people have different coping mechanism to deal with it, but some take it very personal.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Bytruebrit49 (272.22) 
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@truebrit49 True, but eight tours could wear on any one.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Byghostofjw (244.20) 
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@ghostofjw Exactly, the War On Terror's in what its tenth year?
That's pretty exceptional by historic standards
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByElegantDecline (2132.08) 
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@truebrit49 Very true. Know a guy who saw and did a lot of thins in Nam, but he just doesn't like to talk about it. Other than that he seems completely fine. His friend was a cook and saw no combat at all but he acts like hes seen crazy stuff and comes off like Lt. Dan from Forrest Gump.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Bystevecore (814.28) stevecore View Channel Send Message
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@truebrit49 Ahem. When you find that screening process or test .. Let the me know.. No ONE can ever know exactly how they will react during and after the horrors of war or how someone else will!! The military weeds what they can out..and I think it will always only go so far..
Posted Aug-16-2011 Byflashj2 (729.30) 
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I feel sorry for the ranger but it's pretty selfish for him to leave his child without a father. That alone should have given him reason to go on with his life. Suicide is a selfish way out.
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByEpic_Beard_Man (412.90) Epic_Beard_Man View Channel Send Message
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@Epic_Beard_Man, selfish it may be but in order to understand how much hurt they've gone through, you would have to see what they have seen and experienced and Im sure the pain is so unbearable that they've decided to leave this world and their families.
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByGrim_Reaper (102.00) 
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@Epic_Beard_Man
He was a very brave and caring man, who obviously believed his family could do better without him.
He only took himself out.
Posted Aug-16-2011 ByGusr (292.90) Gusr View Channel Send Message
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@Epic_Beard_Man im sure if he could salvage his life for his wife and kids he could've. It's selfish for the army to keep these men on the front line when the alarm bells are deafening that they are suicidal.
Posted Aug-17-2011 Byabsu69 (2112.34) absu69 View Channel Send Message
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RIP brother. Don't worry, God knows your heart.
Posted Aug-16-2011 Byghostofjw (244.20) 
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