"...The Slaughter solution attempts to allow the House to pass the Senate bill, plus a bill amending it, with a single vote..."
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How Democrats may 'deem' ObamaCare into law, without voting.
We're not sure American schools teach civics any more, but once upon a time they taught that under the U.S. Constitution a bill had to pass both the House and Senate to become law. Until this week, that is, when Speaker Nasty Pelosi is moving to merely "deem" that the House has passed the Senate health-care bill and then send it to President Obama to sign anyway.
Under the "reconciliation" process that began yesterday afternoon, the House is supposed to approve the Senate's Christmas Eve bill and then use "sidecar" amendments to fix the things it doesn't like. Those amendments would then go to the Senate under rules that would let Democrats pass them while avoiding the ordinary 60-vote threshold for passing major legislation. This alone is an abuse of traditional Senate process.
But Mrs. Pelosi & Co. fear they lack the votes in the House to pass an identical Senate bill, even with the promise of these reconciliation fixes. House Members hate the thought of going on record voting for the Cornhusker kickback and other special-interest bribes that were added to get this mess through the Senate, as well as the new tax on high-cost insurance plans that Big Labor hates.
So at the Speaker's command, New York Democrat Louise Slaughter, who chairs the House Rules Committee, may insert what's known as a "self-executing rule," also known as a "hereby rule." Under this amazing procedural ruse, the House would then vote only once on the reconciliation corrections, but not on the underlying Senate bill. If those reconciliation corrections pass, the self-executing rule would say that the Senate bill is presumptively approved by the House—even without a formal up-or-down vote on the actual words of the Senate bill.
Democrats would thus send the Senate bill to President Obama for his signature even as they claimed to oppose the same Senate bill. They would be declaring themselves to be for and against the Senate bill in the same vote. Even John Kerry never went that far with his Iraq war machinations. As we went to press, the precise mechanics that Democrats will use remained unclear, though yesterday Mrs. Pelosi endorsed this "deem and pass" strategy in a meeting with left-wing bloggers.
This two-votes-in-one gambit is a brazen affront to the plain language of the Constitution, which is intended to require democratic accountability.
Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution says that in order for a "Bill" to "become a Law," it "shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate." This is why the House and Senate typically have a conference committee to work out differences in what each body passes. While sometimes one house cedes entirely to another, the expectation is that its Members must re-vote on the exact language of the other body's bill.
As Stanford law professor Michael McConnell pointed out in these pages yesterday, "The Slaughter solution attempts to allow the House to pass the Senate bill, plus a bill amending it, with a single vote. The senators would then vote only on the amendatory bill. But this means that no single bill will have passed both houses in the same form." If Congress can now decide that the House can vote for one bill and the Senate can vote for another, and the final result can be some arbitrary hybrid, then we have abandoned one of Madison's core checks and balances.
Yes, self-executing rules have been used in the past, but as the Congressional Research Service put it in a 2006 paper, "Originally, this type of rule was used to expedite House action in disposing of Senate amendments to House-passed bills." They've also been used for amendments such as to a 1998 bill that "would have permitted the CIA to offer employees an early-out retirement program"—but never before to elide a vote on the entire fundamental legislation.
We have entered a political wonderland, where the rules are whatever Democrats say they are. Mrs. Pelosi and the White House are resorting to these abuses because their bill is so unpopular that a majority even of their own party doesn't want to vote for it. Fence-sitting Members are being threatened with primary challengers, a withdrawal of union support and of course ostracism. Michigan's Bart Stupak is being pounded nightly by MSNBC for the high crime of refusing to vote for a bill that he believes will subsidize insurance for abortions.
Democrats are, literally, consuming their own majority for the sake of imposing new taxes, regulations and entitlements that the public has roundly rejected but that they believe will be the crowning achievement of the welfare state. They are also leaving behind a procedural bloody trail that will fuel public fury and make such a vast change of law seem illegitimate to millions of Americans.
The concoction has become so toxic that even Mrs. Pelosi isn't bothering to defend the merits anymore, saying instead last week that "we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." Or rather, "deeming" to have passed it.
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Tags: Slaughter solution, reconciliation, unconstitutional, Louise Slaughter, Pelosi, Chicago politics, Civil war
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We have traitors to our country in congress. Took an oath to defend the country from enemies foreign and domestic, its time for all of the true Americans to stand for what we believe in.
Posted Mar-16-2010 Bythebigniv (559.94) thebigniv View Channel Send Message
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You've left it a little late to stand for what you believe in! The Republicans have played the same game for years.
"When Republicans took power in 1995, they soon lost their aversion to self-executing rules and proceeded to set new records under Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.). There were 38 and 52 self-executing rules in the 104th and 105th Congresses (1995-1998), making up 25 percent and 35 percent of all rules, respectively. Under Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) there were 40, 42 and 30 More..
Posted Mar-16-2010 Byphunny (27.76) phunny View Channel Send Message
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Not even close to being the same thing in terms of it's importance.
Besides that, the Democrats objected then to what they are trying to do an a much more massive scale that would seize control of the 1/6th of the US economy .
Posted Mar-16-2010 BySongun (4253.64) Songun Send Message
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If you noticed I did not say either party. I don't care who, what, or the party there in if there a traitor!
Posted Mar-17-2010 Bythebigniv (559.94) thebigniv View Channel Send Message
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I know you didn't specify a particular party. My point was it's a little bit late to get outraged over a procedure that's been used in Congress since the 1970s.
Posted Mar-17-2010 Byphunny (27.76) phunny View Channel Send Message
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Oh so sorry did not know there was a time limit on outrage. That said just maybe I have been outraged since the 1970's over the way government has been operating. But a closed minded person can't conceive that can they!
Posted Mar-17-2010 Bythebigniv (559.94) thebigniv View Channel Send Message
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A revolution is called for.
Posted Mar-16-2010 ByPresidentZero (301.70) 
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Maybe some assassinations.
Posted Mar-16-2010 ByFenrisulfr (183.08) Fenrisulfr Send Message
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Perhaps they've gone nuts. There's an agenda besides "taking the high road" of giving Americans health care because this isn't the way to go about it. If they ram it through, it will be a botched-up, catastrophically expensive, half-assed mess that won't work for decades if ever.
Posted Mar-16-2010 ByFine_Just_Fine (2014.22) 
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You're right. It'll go Third World in no time flat.
Posted Mar-16-2010 ByKeelum2 (97.58) Keelum2 Send Message
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They're just gathering rope with which to hang themselves. As fast and as enthusiastically as they can. Obama has got them all walking the plank.
Posted Mar-16-2010 ByST0N3PONY (5015.52) 
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The "Slaughter Solution".
The fear comes prepackaged with that title.
Posted Mar-16-2010 Bynotatheist (173.40) notatheist View Channel Send Message
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Democratic congressional leaders have floated a plan to enact health-care reform by a procedure dubbed "the Slaughter solution." It is named not for the political carnage that it might inflict on their members, but for Rep. Louise Slaughter (D., N.Y.), chair of the powerful House Rules Committee, who proposed it. Under her proposal, Democrats would pass a rule that deems the Senate's health-care bill to have passed the House, without the House actually voting on the bill. This would en More..
Posted Mar-16-2010 BySongun (4253.64) Songun Send Message
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ther is no "MAY" to it, they are going to have too, only way it's gonna pass. next time you see a progressive liberal, spit in their face
Posted Mar-16-2010 Bystar53 (32467.70) 
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The communist regime is ruining the country and spending it into a welfare country..next stop Zimbabwe's twin...
Posted Mar-16-2010 ByHawk_Eye (123.72) Hawk_Eye Send Message
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Imagine the outcry on the Left if Republicans tried passing legislation without voting on it...you know, just declaring it "passed."
AND, if they do it with health care, what's to stop them (or the Republicans for that matter) doing it with something else.
Goodbye, America.
Posted Mar-16-2010 Byvicsemprini (1246.48) vicsemprini View Channel Send Message
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The libs are suddenly silent-just as they are about the War,FISA,and the Patriot Act.They have ether crawled back into their holes or left the country all together.
Posted Mar-16-2010 BySongun (4253.64) Songun Send Message
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They have done it before.
Posted Mar-16-2010 ByTrue_Madness (108.40) True_Madness View Channel Send Message
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When? When has the House tried declaring a bill passed without voting on it?
Posted Mar-16-2010 Byvicsemprini (1246.48) vicsemprini View Channel Send Message
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Republicans have used reconciliation 17 times, Democrats 6. Bush used it 3 times to enact huge bills. I'm sure you were livid then.
Posted Mar-17-2010 Bynotatheist (173.40) notatheist View Channel Send Message
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YA, NANCY -BELA-LUGOSI-PELOSI, LETS JUST MAKE IT LAW WITHOUT A VOTE, "SO WE CAN ALL SEE WHATS IN THE BILL" YOU SCHMUCKS !!
IMPEACH HUSSIAN OBAMA
Posted Mar-16-2010 Bydfaugust2k (1397.20) dfaugust2k View Channel Send Message
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Go for it, it won't be legal and binding and the next yahoo who walks into the white house can dump it like yesterdays fish dinner.
Posted Mar-16-2010 Byapacheknife (239.96) apacheknife View Channel Send Message
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so much for school house rock
Posted Mar-17-2010 ByAmusing (5216.78) Amusing View Channel Send Message
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703909804575123512773070080.html
Posted Mar-16-2010 BySongun (4253.64) Songun Send Message
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It's kind of interesting watching this country implode....Brings a whole new meaning to "Nigga on the trigga"....
Posted Mar-16-2010 Byzarpheous (321.92) 
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At this rate why even have a congress?
Posted Mar-16-2010 Bysun-warrior (131.96) sun-warrior View Channel Send Message
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This is not only a disgrace, it's also extremely dangerous as Constitution-undermining precedent.
Rep. Clyburn said on FOX that the House can pass a bill by simply acknowledging that the Senate passed it.
Seriously. That's the process.
These people are undermining our republic and destroying your Constitution, people.
Posted Mar-16-2010 Byvicsemprini (1246.48) vicsemprini View Channel Send Message
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It's very similar to Martial Law.
Posted Mar-16-2010 BySongun (4253.64) Songun Send Message
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