Syrian Rebel Who Ate Piece Of Corpse On Video Says Why He Did It

News sites around the world have shown Khalid al Hamad sink his teeth into what appears to be the lung of a dead Syrian government soldier. His fellow rebels have called for him to be arrested or killed for the act. Human rights groups have condemned him. But Al Hamad has no regrets.

In an interview conducted via Skype in the early hours of May 14 al Hamad explained to TIME what caused him to cut out the soldier’s organs: “We opened his cell phone and I found a clip of a woman and her two daughters fully naked and he was humiliating them, and sticking a stick here and there.”

The video, a 27-second clip in which al Hamad brandishes organs that appear to be the lungs and heart of the Syrian soldier who lies dead at al Hamad’s feet, was first seen by two TIME reporters in April. A few weeks later TIME obtained a copy. Though we had been told by witnesses to the filming that the video was legitimate, we set about authenticating its content, aware of the potential that it could have been faked for propaganda purposes. Al Hamad has now confirmed that the video is real, and that he did indeed take a bite of the soldier’s lung. (At the time of the filming, al Hamad believed that he was biting into the liver. A surgeon who has seen the video confirms that the organ in question was a lung, which somewhat resembles the liver). On May 12, a copy of the video appeared on a pro-regime website, sparking a flood of Facebook “shares” and YouTube views.

Al Hamad, who is Sunni and harbors a sectarian hatred for Alawite Muslims, said he has another gruesome video of his killing a government soldier from the Alawite faith. (Syrian President Bashar al Assad is Alawite; the conflict in Syria is increasingly sectarian.) “Hopefully we will slaughter all of them [Alawites]. I have another video clip that I will send to them. In the clip I am sawing another Shabiha [pro-government militiaman] with a saw. The saw we use to cut trees. I sawed him in small pieces and large ones.” Al Hamad also explained that even though both sides of the conflict in Syria are using video clips of their own brutal actions to intimidate the other he believes that his clip would have particular impact on the regime’s troops. “They film as well but after what I did hopefully they will never step into the area where Abu Sakkar is,” he said, using his nom de guerre and referring to the part of Syria he currently controls.

Human Rights Watch, which validated the video, released a report on May 13 identifying Khalid al Hamad as a well known commander responsible for the recent cross-border shelling of a Shiite Lebanese village that killed two. The organization called on the United Nations Security Council to refer the Syria situation to the International Criminal Court to ensure accountability for all war crimes and crimes against humanity. “It is not enough for Syria’s opposition to condemn such behavior or blame it on violence by the government,” said Nadim Houry, HRW’s Deputy Middle East Director. “The opposition forces need to act firmly to stop such abuses.” Al Hamad lashed out at HRW and the UN for focusing on opposition abuses when the regime is responsible for similar atrocities. During the interview, he sent links to YouTube videos purporting to show regime abuses. “Why doesn’t the UN make an appeal for the Shabiha not to do that? The Shabiha themselves posted a million clips of them stabbing and raping.”

Al Hamad, who has been fighting on the frontlines near the strategic town of Qusayr for the past week, says that the video captures the first time he had ever attempted to eat an enemy’s liver. He indicated that the brutality of the regime had driven him to extremes. “You are not seeing what we are seeing and you are not living what we are living. Where are my brothers, my friends, the girls of my neighborhood who were raped? May God bless them all.”

The Supreme Military Council, which according to the leadership oversees about 90% of the fighting groups in Syria, has issued a poster—circulated on Facebook—calling for al Hamad’s arrest, saying it wants him “dead or alive.” In response, supporters have posted stylized portraits of al Hamad cradling a rifle. “We Love You,” reads the inscription.

Al Hamad pointed out in the interview that the revolution started as a peaceful uprising more than two years ago. “They [the Alawites] were the ones who killed our children in Baba Amr and raped our women,” he said, referring to the site of a ferocious battle in the city of Homs that took place in February of 2012. Then, referring to the recent massacre of Sunni villagers near the coastal village of Baniyas that has been attributed by rebel groups to the regime, he adds, “They were the ones who slaughtered the children and women in Bayda [near Baniyas]. We didn’t start it, they started it.” He swore to avenge every death. “Our slogan is an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.”


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Khalid Al Hamad, (left), in an undated photo that originally appeared on the website of the Syrian rebel group, Independent Omar al Farouk brigade, which he commands. Al Hamad has acknowledged biting into an internal organ cut from the body of a dead government soldier.