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Added: Dec-8-2011 By: LL_Hayden

Welcome to the official LiveLeak blog. In here we'll be posting about developments, issues, and anything else related to the site.

It's all about communication!

Entry Added: Oct-11-2015 By: LL_Hayden

As many of you might already know I try to make myself as available as possible to members. This isn't a PR thing, I genuinely think of myself as being a part of the site more than above it or the members. I dig talking to most of you.

If my chat is showing green and I'm sat at the PC I'll invariably answer you and chew the fat. After all, I'm not some kind of venture capital suit or student filling in time doing customer service. I'm The benefits of this approach are that I get to chat with people I'd never otherwise "meet" and I can often help out with issues before they become drama fueled forrest fires tearing through the LiveLeakers section resulting in yet another Facebook group bitching about LL and me without ever talking to me. I did say "sometimes".

The down side is people seem to think communication can be improved by being an arsehole with me. These people also have a habit of getting all butthurt when I don't act like an online customer service representative from India and instead act like a dick myself in return. The deal's pretty simple, don't be a dick with me and I won't be an egotistical, sarcastic, prick with you.

If something's wrong or you have a question I'll listen and most likely look into it. You don't need to add "Or I'll go to the police" or "I'll take your site down" or even "X is a mod and I know they have it in for me because it's a conspiracy" (I had one of the latter just this morning).

Just tell me what your issue is and if it's only something I can deal with then I'll deal with it. I'm not asking you to kiss ass (that's not cool!) just treat me as you'd like to be treated. If you'd like to be treated like a child with a brain malfunction I guess that's cool as well. Just don't bitch about it.

I also come on here to watch videos and hang out with people. I don't mind people interrupting with genuine issues but "hey asshole" isn't the way to start any conversation where you expect positive results.

And yes, there is a way to complain about me. Just send a private message via and I'll get back to you a.s.a.p.
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Entry Added: Aug-18-2015 By: LL_Hayden

Ever since the world was completely unsurprised to find out Russia had people posting their propaganda online (pretty much inline with the practices of most nations it seems) people have had an additional tool in their "debate" tool box.

No more would you simply have to dismiss someone as a "troll" because they didn't have the same opinion as you. No, now you can accuse them of being a government shill too! It's a handy way of actually avoiding any form of debate and ensuring you can pat yourself on the back later for your epic victory on the Interwebs.

Every week people come to us with tales of bot invasions wondering why we can't simply ban each and every one of them when it's patently obvious they're nothing but paid shills posting heavy on LiveLeak from some dusty basement in the Kremlin. I mean, if you can see it why can't LiveLeak? Clearly we're on the payroll too, right?

Here's the deal. We do check where possible but if we find someone with a pro-Russian stance who is from - let's say - Canada with a history of posting from a Canadian IP and no suspicious time stamp shenanigans how can we prove they're anything other than someone from Canada with a fondness for countries run by ex-KGB thugs?

Would you have us ban pro-Ukranian posters because they might be shills for the government placed there to help strip their national assets? Doubt it.

Here's the deal, as far as I'm personally concerned there are bad guys in every damn government. Yes, Putin is corrupt and dangerous, yes the leaders in the Ukraine seem awfully suspicious, yes the US and UK bomb the shit out of people to "bring them democracy" all the while failing to do anything other than leave death, destruction, and worse despots in place than the ones we bombed out.

Sometimes you have to accept that people do not see the world as you do. They believe, just like you, that their opinion is valid and truthful. You don't suddenly become 'more right' because you can call them a bot, a shill, or a troll. It just makes you pointless, a mouthpiece for someone else's agenda with no clear opinion of your own that you can defend.

Are there paid shills out there? Damn right there are, it's inevitable. Do I think they somehow focus massive attention on LL? Nope, I don't. There's nothing we can find to suggest such a pattern and I would hazard a guess Wikipedia and YouTube (along with - of course - Facebook and Twitter) are far more valuable targets for these people.

Where we find multiple accounts we'll remove them. Where we can see people aiming to do nothing but disrupt the site we'll deal with it. We won't, however, ban people because you don't like their opinion. It can't work like that.

So, if you're convinced beyond all doubt someone is a shill or troll or whatever just let us know. But please make sure you have a reason beyond "He's pro *insert country you don't like here*" because that's just daft.

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Media partnerships...Redux.

Entry Added: Aug-17-2015 By: LL_Hayden

Seeing as some folks with an axe to grind are determined to make a conspiracy into a case and - more importantly - some people really don't know the score with media partnerships I thought it would be worth giving out some info and generally talking about the situation.

LiveLeak is a pretty big site these days. Not Youtube massive or anything but certainly pretty damn big by our standards and many people want to use it as a platform for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons, and chief amongst them, is the desire to share media.

Over the last few years we've entered "media partnerships" with several outlets, independent producers, and individuals who found their media was being shared on here quite often without their permission. Sometimes this resulted in DMCA requests, other times just a polite request, and on occasion a realisation that they might as well post here themselves. And before you scream bullshit just ask someone who's been on here for years (and isn't part of some hysterical clique) to tell you about press TV, RT, and other posts.

Causing the most consternation at the moment are the media partnerships with Ruptly and PressTV. Ruptly is the video arm of RT which is pretty much Russian state television and Press TV is Iranian state television. Their media was being posted here a hell of a lot so they wanted to come on board and with pressTV is was also due to - shall we say - inconsistent hosting elsewhere.

Now, we do get many of you don't like Russia or don't like Iran. Many probably don't like both. Does that really mean we should prevent them from posting? What is Ukraine Today wanted to post and we said no? What if Israeli TV wanted a channel and we refused? Fox? CNN? e.t.c? Yeah, that would be different, right?

A media partnership is just that. We provide the platform to host their media. They don't pay us, we don't pay them, we don't hang out in super top secret meetings with high ranking officials from the Kremlin (sorry, not sure what the equivalent is called in Iran).

LiveLeak has a long standing tradition of allowing people to post so long as it's within our rules. Remember Geert Wilders? Yeah, nobody really wanted to let him post until he'd posted here first. Does that mean I'm also on board with Geert Wilders? Kind of strange if I was considering some of you guys also have me as best buddies with Iran (who once referred to me personally as part of the Anglo / Dutch conspiracy against Islam BTW).

Some of you really do need to get over yourselves and your opinions. If I can avoid letting my personal politics cloud my judgement why don't you try the same? Don't seek to ban something because you don't like it, either answer it, challenge it, or ignore it and move on. It amuses me sometimes to see the lengths some people will go to in order to generate outrage over nothing. It amuses me further when those claiming only to support freedom request censorship and further censor members themselves should their opinions differ.

If you want your favourite news outlet to post here, tell them to post. It's not our fault if they don't want to.

I certainly don't "align" myself with Putin nor the ruling leaders of Iran but I would never seek to silence their voices. I like to know what other people think, it's called learning. I listen to some of you guys too, remember. Everything is propaganda to someone after all. Take a look at our western media for further evidence.

Lastly, Ruptly. As I said they are the video arm of RT in as much as they're part of the same network. Before going mental about that why not just take a look at their channel on here and tell me just how propaganda heavy it is. Sure, there'll be one or two things but that seems par for the course. Mostly they upload video media rather than editorial pieces.

Think, breathe, relax. Stop being silly and think it through. Just because we won't fight along YOUR ideals doesn't mean we've chosen someone else's. We often have to tolerate media and opinions that go against some of our personal ideals and beliefs. Luckily we're not quite as given to outbursts as SOME of you guys.

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