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Ron Paul’s Support Among Military is a LIE. 4.4% … At Best.

Ron Paul’s supporters are diligent in their support of him.
Unfortunately, a lot of that support is what is known in the software
industry as vaporware. In other words it is phony to non-existent.
Right now, for example, I have a bunch of emails flooding my inbox
telling me why I should support Ron Paul from droves of supposedly
enthusiastic Paulbots. The problem however is that 98% of those emails
are from obviously hastily registered email addresses at any number of
free email service providers. In email after email the message is the
same, word for droning word. Checking the IP Addresses in the email
headers shows that many of these messages are being sent from the same
computer under different emails. One enthusiastic Paulbot sent me the
same message, under different Gmail addresses, thirty-seven times within
the span of three hours. He even forgot to change his signature every
time he sent it. So, “B. Anderson”, and I know you are reading this,
try to at least be a little less obvious next time ok? And you folks
honestly wonder why I make fun of you?
What is sad though is that sometimes Paulbots are able to fool enough
people and parlay this phony sense of support into actual results. See
the final vote count of the Iowa Caucuses where Mr. Paul netted more
than 21% of the vote.
Now, Ron Paul has some good ideas. He is right that the federal
government spends too much money and does far too many things that it
should not be doing. But of course his actual belief in such rhetoric
on this important issue has to be questioned since it is a fact that he
has helped bring back a plethora of earmarks for unconstitutional
spending to his district in Texas. He spins this by saying that the
money was going to be spent anyway so he was just doing what he should
do and help out his constituency and that is how the game is played. To
that I say you either believe in the Constitution or you do not. And
these actions show me that Mr. Paul does not, absolutely, believe in the
Constitution.
But there is one Big Lie that Mr. Paul’s supporters like to throw out
there that really gets my dander up. It gets my dander up because it
annoys so many people who are bravely defending this country day in and
day out while standing on a wall and in the line of enemy fire.
Something that few people, even ravenous Paulbots, have the courage to
do. I hear it every day because the election is upon us. The Paulbot
emails me and says, “Ron Paul has more support from the military than
any other candidate!” Military personnel email me every day telling me
that on base there is at best one Ron Paul supporter and how frustrated
they are that the Paulbots are telling this Big Lie.
See, members of the military do not like Mr. Paul all that much
because they have heard him denigrate America and its military as the
source of evil in the world. While I have yet to meet a member of the
American military who does not, in general, agree with Congressman Paul
that the U.S. military is used too freely, too often and is too diluted
around the world. I have also met very few members of the military who
do not think that Ron Paul is a dangerous isolationist and worse,
someone who cannot be trusted to stand up to evil when it rears its ugly
head.
So I thought I would break it down in a manner so simple that we can
put the issue of Ron Paul’s military support to rest once and for all
and do so using the same standard that Paulbots use to tout how great
and mighty this support really is. That method is to look at campaign
donations by members of the military. The common refrain from Paulbots
is that Ron Paul has more donations from military personnel than any
other candidate. Ergo he has the most support. So let’s look at that
shall we?
According to the numbers available on January 6th, 2012[1], Ron Paul
has received $24,503, $23,335 and $17,432 from people who declared
themselves as working for the U.S. Army, the U.S. Air Force and the U.S.
Navy respectively. The total is $65,270. They are the top three
donors listed.
Now, let’s assume that this $65,270 donated to Mr. Paul’s campaign by
members of the military all came in one dollar increments. The average
donation was in fact higher. But bear with me as we make the number
that follows as big, and as unrealistic, as possible to give the
Paulbots as much of an advantage as possible ok?
So, $65,270 made in one dollar increments would mean 65,270 members
of the military donated to Ron Paul. In September 2011[2] there were
1,468,364 total active duty military personnel in the United States.
Divide the inflated number of Paul donors by the total active members of
the military and you get 4.4%. Hardly an outpouring of support if you
ask me. This leaves over 95% of the military that do not, but the
Paulbots’ own flawed methodology, that do not support Ron Paul.
Now assume that the average donation by declared military personnel
to Ron Paul is ten dollars instead of one dollar. The percentage of
active duty personnel that support Paul dips to a pathetic 0.44%.
Again, using the argument of Ron Paul’s supporters who like to tout that
we look only at the dollar amounts of the donations by members of the
military to him that is.
If the average donation was one hundred dollars? Well, that makes the percentage just 0.044%.


When you look at other candidates, it is true that you do not see
anywhere near these numbers for these military professions if you even
see them at all. There are however reasons for this. First, active
duty personnel stationed overseas will often have their spouses make
donation for their household to candidates. These donations are then
listed under the spouse’s information which is often times not military
related. Secondly is that members of the military, from my personal
experience, hate to be used as political pawns and when they donate to
political candidates they often do not list their military service as
their profession. Thirdly, military personnel, as I have been told by
military personnel themselves, generally really hate to be used for
political purposes thus they again do not like to list their service on
donations made to military candidates so that their donations cannot be
used in this manner. And fourthly is that there is a concerted effort
by Ron Paul supporters in the military to make sure that their donations
are listed as coming from military personnel in order to perpetuate
this talking point for political gain. But let’s ignore all that.
Let’s ignore it because Ron Paul’s supporters use simply the dollar
numbers as the end all and be all of the proof to support their supposed
claims.
When you look at the numbers alone and apply a little logic you see
that less than 5% of active duty military personnel support Ron Paul at
best. In reality however the number is less than half a percent.
Again, using the “logic” of the Paulbots of course. Not the numbers
they want to paint. But the numbers they are forcing us to accept if
they want us to accept their initial premise.Now I am emptying out my email inbox. I have to. Because over the
next month I am going to have to field all the angry emails from Ron
Paul supporters because I dared to once again bust their little bubble.
[1] http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?cycle=2012&;id=N00005906

[2] http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004598.htmlhttp://www.libertyreborn.com/2012/01/06/ron-pauls-support-among-military-4-4-at-best/


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  • Here are some facts:

    1) Every single problem the United States has stems from not following the Constitution.

    2) Ron Paul has read, understands, believes in, and supports the constitution.

    3) Gingrich, Santorum, Romney, Obama, Pelosi, Reid... ALL have either introduced or supported unconstitutional legislation. NONE of these jokers can even PRETEND to support the Constitution while wiping their ass with it.

    If you want your future back, vote for Ron Paul, but if you prefer 4 more years of th More..

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    • @AdobeWanKenobi

      Ron Paul persuades all his ignorant cultists into thinking he is the only one who respects the Constitution.

      All of the Republican candidates respect the Constitution.Ron Paul has made millions of dollars by taking advantage of the ignorant and the gullible.

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    • @LarryThompson i would argue that one can just check the voting records of these people while in office and listen to their rhetoric and see that what you are saying is mistaken.

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    • @aureliusva
      Thanks for reinforcing my point.

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  • Nah, I'm in the military. RP has huge support in the military.

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    • @Azzhole it just proves that these people are send out to post disinfo towards Ron Paul and anyone who speaks against the system.

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    • @Azzhole you can see it by his donations.. if only 4.4% supported him, why did he get more in contributions then everyone else combined? That speaks for it's self

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    • @Aariss
      Not everyone in the military is going to give money to a political campaign. The fact that he's getting most of the donations is pretty monumental.

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    • @Azzhole yeap donations reflect a majority of what a group thinks

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  • I can't wait for the elections to get over so the little paid off bitches will leave LiveLeak.

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  • lmao,.What a line of shit, numbers don't lie,.
    face it war monger CNN following Nit Wits,.
    Ron Paul is the only choice for Real America,.
    the rest of you ninnies are on some other pipe dream thinking we can still use play money and stay working for slave pay,.
    get off your your high horses and stop fucking around with my beloved republic that I fought so hard to preserve,.
    Stop being bought off by Goldman Sachs and CNN,.
    Vote for Liberty for once!
    Vote Ron Paul!

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    • @SharkGuy
      Sorry Shark guy....but do the math.
      RP is a liar.

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    • @Freejay
      If you really think about it ,the last I remembered ,elections were a private choice,their is no way any of these reports can be accurate,because their is no way "realistically",they know what people are going to vote,he did receive higher numbers of donations from the military when the campaigns were starting out by the reading of the first donations when this kangaroo campaign kicked off,.
      I think regardless of who gets in Freejay,your Country is in for a wild ride soon,b More..

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    • @SharkGuy
      Well what he would do about Iran is irrelevant....their nuke sites will be hit before the elections anyhow.

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    • @Freejay
      that's what I think,.
      this war crap is going down it looks like,
      if your in Israel right now,.just stay safe eh?

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  • LarryThompsonb you get so many emails because your a TROLL!

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    • @zziper
      Would one of the Ron Paul followers post a list of all of the legislation Ron Paul has authored and passed that helps the American Citizen?

      You can't because he is a loser.

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    • @LarryThompson

      Taxes

      Tax Free Tips Act of 2009. H.R. 779, 2009-01-28, originally H.R. 4408, 1998-08-05. Provides that tips shall not be subject to income or employment taxes.
      Public Safety Tax Cut Act. H.R. 3303, 2007-08-01, originally H.R. 3124, 1999-10-21. Creates tax credit for police officers and professional firefighters, and makes public safety volunteer benefits nontaxable.
      Cost of Government Awareness Act of 2007. H.R. 3601, 2007-09-19, originally H.R. 4855, 2000-07-13. E More..

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    • @zziper

      Only 1 bill that Ron Paul has sponsored has passed in 14 years.We are talking about a miserable success rate of about 0.22%... LESS THAN ONE QUARTER OF ONE PERCENT. That's it.

      How long has Ron Paul been in Congress?

      He is serving his 8th term as a Career politician, a total of 14 years.

      he has sponsored 464 bills in total

      105th Congress - 32 Bills Sponsored by Ron Paul
      106th Congress - 51 Bills Sponsored by Ron Paul
      107th Congress - 64 Bills Sponsored by Ron Paul
      108th Congress - More..

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    • @LarryThompson and hows that working out for your government so far? His bills don't pass because they make sense and would take power away from officials that want to keep power.

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    • @Aariss

      BS

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  • Look around, who the fuck likes Romney, Gingrich, Obama or Santorum?

    A: No one

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  • Yawn....scared huh?

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  • What are you trying to turn the original statement into? Ron Paul gets more political contributions from the military than other candidates. And if you look at the numbers it does confirm that. Now whether or not these numbers are significant, that's another question. But the differences with the other candidates is quite astounding.

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    • @Vhorthex
      You dont know that.....maybe only 1000 military gave him 65 dollars.
      Maybe the other candidates got more donations at a lower amount.

      Th point is that RP is bullshiting and spinning it to look like most of the military support his policies.
      I really find that hard to believe.

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    • @Vhorthex your comment is verbatim what every single Paul drone says Seriously. is there a webpage or email newsletter you get with all the talking points to post on comment boards or something. You guys define drone.

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    • @Freejay Ok, I didn't word myself properly. He gets more money. That's what I meant to point out. I never argued any % or claim that those numbers can translate to a precise number. Since you'd have to assume that all service men contribute, which I'm sure is not the case.

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    • @aa316 I know I have a hard time dealing with facts as well. Fucking teacher kept telling me, "1 + 1 = 2"
      And I'm like, "Wtf, think outside the box! What all you teachers get your inspiration from the industrial revolution?"

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    • @aa316 Why the insults? Use arguments and debate, no need to try to pull off some lame ad hominem attack, by trying to label me as a drone.

      I'm willing to argue and stand behind anything I said. So go ahead, post a rebuttal rather than some lukewarm insults.

      I find the drive-by "RP Drone Bot" comment much more indicative of drone/hive mentality. Argue and debate, or else it's just posturing.

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  • Larry Thompson, please expatriate yourself to Israel if you are so in love with it.

    You will vote for a POTUS based on which one will benefit the homeland of your Torah the best, not who will benefit America and Americans. I find that to be a form of shameless intellectual treason against this country.

    Ron Paul is the best choice for America, but he has vowed to cut off aid to all foreign countries including Israel, and therein lies the heart of your pathetic, truly insane internet campaign of More..

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    • @RacistReagansGhost
      Was listening to you in politics chat the other day, you're a very good speaker. Describing yourself as 'very brown' cracked me up big time. Keep it up - from a fellow 23 y.o

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    • @xtr3mh4x0r

      Cheers!

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    • @RacistReagansGhost

      yada yada israel evil yada yada jews the devil etc.. do you ron paulbots have anything else to add to the conversation, it's like reading transcripts from the munich beer hall summits

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    • @golem

      Do you notice the nature of your manufactured mental illness? You see me criticizing a man who is putting the interests of a foreign country ahead of America yet still lives in America, and you somehow construe this as a remark against Jews. It was a remark against Americans who put Israeli interest ahead of Americans; I never once said Jews are evil.

      Is that really the one way some of you idiots can argue? To emotionally invoke the holocaust, make a parallel between Nazis and those wh More..

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  • I support Ron Paul, so you can add me to your list of Ron Paul supporters.

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  • this is a FAIL!

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  • sorry guys he is just another politician,the only thing that will save this country is the people.

    people have to get their head out of their ass and speak up.

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  • All the support is a joke lol. How can you have any faith in that system after all the "problems", "errors" and "recounts"?

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  • "-they have heard him denigrate America and its military as the
    source of evil in the world."
    Butt-faced lie! He has never said such a thing. Where's the clip?

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  • hmmm, so you know who does and doesnt support a candidate... why the fuck are we voting then? seems a big waste of our time if you already know...

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  • That's funny... I'm in the military and almost everyone I know hates Obama and is going to pencil Paul in whether or not he's on the general election ballot.

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  • These anti-RP posts make me laugh every time. Just another ass wipe who wants Goldman Sachs to continue running and ruining our country. Rich cocksuckers bolstering more rich cocksuckers. Eventually, one day, when you cocksuckers have every last cent, we'll come kicking your fucking door in and cave your whole pampered life in around you. In time.

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  • http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4bc_1329805522

    yeah right,..lol

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  • BS

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  • They love the vets who hate the US Army

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  • Wow here is a good piece of disinformation

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  • who are you writing all these articles for? nobody is on your side of this debate. why dont you just give up trying to bash ron paul all day long. and if your so quick to judge ron paul why dont you try and compare him to any of the other candidates? i would like to know who you support in the election??

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