1. Smackdown: Rand Paul versus Hogan (D)
2. Throw Them All Out author interview with Brian Kilmeade (Fox)
"They sent my Tax Return back! AGAIN!!! In response to the question:
"List all dependents?" I replied:
"12 million illegal immigrants;
"3 million crack heads;
"42 million unemployable people on food stamps,
"2 million people in over 243 prisons;
"Half of Mexico ; and
"535 fools in the U.S. House and Senate.”
Apparently, this was NOT an acceptable answer but I believe it's correct. "
"MEDICARE PAY INCREASE
For those of you who are on Medicare, read the article below.
It is about the monthly amount of money you are going to pay into Medicare in 2011, 2012 and the huge increase you will pay in 2013. It's a short important article: You will pay it.
Congress will not allow an increase in the social security COLA (cost of living adjustment). However, the per person monthly Medicare insurance premium will be increased from the 2009 premium of $96.40 to $104.20 in 2010, $120.20 for the year 2011 AND Yearly increases to a wonderful $247.00 in 2014. Thank You Obamacare!
Congress also gave themselves a $3,000 a month Cost of Living Adjustment!"
re: Rand Paul...
I just replaced 3 of those ice cream bulbs in one shot, all bad at the
same time-so much for the '5 year guarantee'-haven't had one that lasted more than 3..yep, have the 1 gallon toilet too: 2 flushes if you decide to wipe.
Obama caves to enviro-whackos and kills 200,000 jobs while driving the oil price up again.
Obama priority: Global warming intelligence unit?
Jim Kouri, Law Enforcement Examiner
November 18, 2011
obamacare kills drug, too expensive
Pelosi proclaims her goal to “do for childcare what we did for healthcare”
Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans
Saturday, November 19th, 2011 at 6:05 PM
Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Sporting Shotgun Ban Plans
By Evan F. Nappen, Attorney at Law
Arsenal’s SGL12 Semi-Auto Saiga 12-Gauge Shotgun
AmmoLand Gun News
Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- Saiga 12’s, Benelli M4’s and virtually any other tactical/military shotgun can no longer be banned from import by the ATF.
A little noticed provision tucked into a large appropriations bill obviously flew under the radar of the “Brady Bunch” and the “Illegal Mayors.”
The new law effectively kills ATF’s plan to stop tactical/military shotgun imports by way of abusing the “sporting purpose” requirement and their agency rulemaking powers.
Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and
Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills”, also known as the “Mini-Bus”, was passed by Congress, and signed into law by President Obama on November 18, 2011.The new law reads as follows:
541. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to pay
the salaries or expenses of personnel to deny, or fail to act on, an
application for the importation of any model of shotgun if–(1) all other requirements of law with respect to the proposed importation are met; and
(2) no application for the importation of such model of shotgun, in the
same configuration, had been denied by the Attorney General prior to
January 1, 2011, on the basis that the shotgun was not particularly
suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.This new law became necessary due to the ATF releasing on January 27, 2011, a “Study on the Importability of Certain Shotguns.” The “Study” argued “military shotguns, or shotguns with common military features that are unsuitable for traditional shotgun sports” should be banned from import into the U.S.
ban would have applied to all shotguns including semi-autos,
pump-actions, double barrels, etc. As part of the rulemaking process,
comments from the public on the study were allowed to be submitted until
May 1, 2011.Many gun owners had been dreading the ATF’s decision, knowing full well what ATF’s intention was from the start.
Saiga-20 Autoloading Shotguns
For more info visit: http://tiny.cc/t2fob and search on the Phrase “shotgun”.
Interestingly Section 219 of the same appropriations bill forbid funds
to be used to provide working firearms to a drug cartel member. A year
ago before Fast & Furious came to light, that would have seemed like
common sense?SEC. 219. None of the funds made
available under this Act, other than for the national instant criminal
background check system established under section 103 of the Brady
Handgun Violence Prevention Act, may be used by a Federal law
enforcement officer to facilitate the transfer of an operable firearm to
an individual if the Federal law enforcement officer knows or suspects
that the individual is an agent of a drug cartel, unless law enforcement
personnel of the United…
Evan Nappen (www.efnappen.com) is a criminal defense attorney who has focused in firearms and weapons law for over 23 years. He is the author of New Hampshire Gun, Knife, and
Weapon Law and the New Jersey Gun Law Guide. He is a director and the
General Counsel of Pro-Gun New Hampshire, Inc. (http://www.pgnh.org/).
Holder's Caribbean Junket on Taxpayers' Dime
As Holder enjoys taxpayer-funded Caribbean junket, 10 percent of House members demand his resignation
Published: 10:52 AM 11/17/2011
Updated: 12:06 AM 11/18/2011
51 congressmen to Eric Holder: You must resign immediately
Published: 12:40 AM 11/18/2011
Updated: 11:15 AM 11/18/2011
The surge in congressional calls for Attorney General Eric Holder’s
immediate resignation has reached a new milestone: More than 50 members
of Congress are now demanding Holder step down in the wake of Operation
Fast and Furious.
The number of congressmen calling for Holder’s immediate resignation
is now 51. New additions to that list include Republican Reps. Todd Akin
and Blaine Luetkemeyer of Missouri, Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia,
Steven Palazzo of Mississippi and Jeff Duncan of South Carolina.
Rep. Westmoreland said Operation Fast and Furious was a disgrace to
the American people and that Holder needs to resign immediately.
“Fast and Furious played fast and loose with the American public’s
safety, leaving a U.S. Border patrol agent dead and DOJ-purchased guns
in the hands of Mexican drug lords,” Westmoreland told The Daily Caller.
“To say this program was a failure and an embarrassment to the U.S.
justice system is an understatement.”
“No matter how many times the attorney general’s statement of when he
was aware of Operation Fast and Furious changes — and it has changed
almost daily — at the end of the day, he is the head of the Department
of Justice and the buck stops with him,” said Westmoreland.
“It’s time for Mr. Holder to hold himself accountable,” he added.
On Thursday morning there were 46 congressmen demanding Holder’s resignation. Holder is currently on a taxpayer-subsidized junket
in the Caribbean with his spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler, who has
repeatedly declined to answer questions about the increasing
congressional disapproval of Holder’s job performance.
Akin and Luetkemeyer had not previously called for Holder’s immediate
resignation, but cast doubts on the truthfulness of the attorney
general’s testimony before Congress. (THE DAILY CALLER: Complete Operation Fast and Furious coverage)
“Given Mr. Holder’s inconsistencies and general lack of compelling
testimony before the Judiciary Committee on such a serious matter as the
‘fast and furious’ gun walking debacle, his resignation would go a long
way to restoring credibility to the office he now holds,” Akin told
The recent surge in calls for Holder’s resignation can be attributed
to two factors. First, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona, the third congressman
to demand Holder step down, hosted a press conference on Tuesday to
amplify calls for Holder’s resignation. Second, Rep. Joe Walsh of
Illinois is currently circulating a letter on Capitol Hill asking for
Holder to resign or for Obama to fire him.
The Walsh letter, addressed to Obama, urges him to “hold attorney
general Eric Holder accountable for Operation Fast and Furious” and “ask
for his immediate resignation.”
The new congressmen demanding Holder step down now are also signatories to Walsh’s letter — which currently has 39 co-signers.
The White House and the Justice Department remain silent as pressure
for Holder’s immediate resignation builds, which may be a sign that the
Obama administration is prepared to force Holder out if it is
Obama's Science Advisor Accused of Breaking U.S. Law, Says 'So What?'
The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) concluded that the Office of Science and Technology Policy’s (OSTP)
violated a prohibition imposed by Congress outlawing the use of federal
funds for bilateral activities with the government of the People’s
Republic of China.
The prohibition appears in the federal budget passed by Congress and
signed by President Obama in April. The Full-Year Continuing
Appropriations Act prohibits OSTP and the National Aeronautics and Space
Administration (NASA) from engaging in bilateral activities with China,
None of the funds made available by this division may be
used for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or the Office
of Science and Technology Policy to develop, design, plan, promulgate,
implement, or execute a bilateral policy, program, order, or contract of
any kind to participate, collaborate, or coordinate bilaterally in any
way with China or any Chinese-owned company unless such activities are
specifically authorized by a law enacted after the date of enactment of
After the prohibition had been enactment, the OSTP participated in a series of meetings with Chinese officials as part of the U.S.-China Dialogue on Innovation Policy and the U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue
held in Washington, D.C. The GAO investigated whether the OSTP’s use
of its appropriation to participate in these meetings violated the
In testimony before the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
on Wednesday, Thomas H. Armstrong, Managing Associate General Counsel
for the GAO’s Office of General Counsel, said:
We concluded that OSTP violated the appropriations
restriction. The plain meaning of the prohibition is clear. It prevents
OSTP’s use of funds to participate, collaborate, or coordinate
bilaterally in any way with China or Chinese-owned companies. Here, the
Director and OSTP staff had direct, substantive involvement in the
Innovation Dialogue and the Strategic and Economic Dialogue; OSTP also
hosted a dinner for Chinese government officials . . . OSTP did not deny
that it engaged in prohibited activities. OSTP asserted that the
prohibition, as applied to these activities, is an unconstitutional
infringement on the Executive’s constitutional prerogatives in foreign
The GAO does not have authority to determine the constitutionality of
duly enacted legislation. That question belongs solely to U.S. courts.
However, Armstrong explained that legislation “passed by Congress and
signed by the President is entitled to a heavy presumption in favor of
constitutionality . . . absent a judicial opinion from a federal court
of jurisdiction that a particular provision is unconstitutional.”
Despite the unreasonable (and likely unconstitutional) prohibition,
the Obama administration’s glib violation of U.S. law seems reminiscent
of the imperial presidency that prevailed under President George W. Bush.
In response to the comments about this post, I’ve created the
following charts showing the U.S. fiscal and financial status over the
past 35 years. The numbers represent “percentage of annual GDP” and
were originally compiled by Stuart Kaufman in the excellent analysis
appearing in October’s issue of The Telegram from Temple University’s Foreign Policy Research Institute. FPRI.
Obama Science Advisor Called For “Planetary Regime” To Enforce Totalitarian Population Control Measures
In 1977 book, John Holdren advocated forced abortions,
mass sterilization through food and water supply and mandatory bodily
implants to prevent pregnancies
Paul Joseph Watson
Saturday, July 11, 2009-
Ecocatastrophe, John Holdren, Assistant to the President for
Science and Technology and Director of the Office of Science and
Halloween Crazy: Thoughts from Obama’s Science Advisor
- Institute for Energy Research Monday, October 31, 2011
Students in Washington state are tracked from K to college SEATTLE • Washington state education officials know a lot more
about your kids than they ever knew about you.
They can now track a child from kindergarten through college
enrollment and soon will be able to tell you everything about every
kid who has gone to school in Washington from preschool through his
or her first job.
"Everything" includes every school they attended, every
achievement test they passed or failed, their ethnic identity,
whether they qualified for free lunch, what college they chose, if
they had to take remedial courses, when they started college and
Of course, this information is anonymous to outside viewers,
including researchers and the public, but it gives local school
officials a lot to comb through to find ways to improve the way
they prepare kids for college and the world.
For example, Seattle Public Schools can see in a new report from
the Education Research & Data Center that about 73 percent of
the class of 2009 enrolled in college after high school, and that
the schools most likely to get students from Seattle were the
University of Washington, the local community colleges and Western
Washington University. The district also sent three graduates to
MIT, two to Harvard and three to NYU.
The report also shows that about 22 percent of the Seattle kids
who went to college had to take remedial math classes — precollege
math — when they got there. About half that many had to take
precollege courses in English.
Statewide, about 63 percent of all 2009 high school graduates
enrolled in college. About a quarter of those 39,537 young people
needed to take remedial courses in math, and 13 percent weren't
ready for college English.
Seattle Public Schools has been paying a national organization
for nearly the same information the state can now provide for free,
so as the state analysis reaches the level of detail the district
needs, it will likely save the district money, said Mark Teoh,
executive director of research, evaluation, assessment and
But more important, Teoh said, the state is now offering this
information to parents, giving them another tool for understanding
school districts and high schools.
"I want to applaud the fact that ERDC is putting this
information out there," he said.
Brian Vance, principal of Seattle's Roosevelt High School, said
the college tracking information helps his staff assess if they are
making progress in improving student readiness for college.
"This is a good way to verify the numbers and get some
confirmation that we're on track," he said. Until a few years ago,
the district was relying entirely on self-reporting by students to
keep track of who goes to college.
Vance likes the way the state data list all the individual
colleges his students are going to, compared with a national site,
College Tracking Data Services, which reports enrollment
But he would like to see more detailed data, including college
numbers by ethnicity, which the state said will be added soon.
"There's work to be done in getting more students of color into
college. That's been a focus for us," Vance said.
The national college tracking site also includes data on how
many high school graduates make it to the second year of college,
which Vance said is as important as college acceptance.
State officials hope to use the information they are gathering
about college enrollment to help others better prepare for college
and succeed once they get there, and they expect to expand their
reports in the near future.
"The silver bullet is to pay attention to people all the way
through," said David Prince of the State Board of Community and
January 3, 2010
States Embrace Student-Data Tracking, With Prodding From White House
Alexis C. Glenn, UPI, Newscom
Duncan, U.S. education secretary, has expressed the hope that databases
will one day track students from preschool through college to their
careers. Enlarge Image
By Paul Basken
The Bush administration spent years, without much success,
trying to win support for a national database to track the academic
progress of individual college students. The Obama administration may
now be making progress by emphasizing action at the state level.
At least 31 states are operating student databases with at least some
college participation, up from just 12 in 2005, according to a November
survey by the Data Quality Campaign, an association of state-government
officials and education-policy groups. Another survey, scheduled to be
released early this year by the State Higher Education Executive
Officers organization, counts at least 45 states keeping some individual
records on college students........
Mexico Asks U.S. to Extradite Alleged Gunrunners
MEXICO CITY – Mexico’s government has requested
the extradition of six U.S. citizens for weapons trafficking, including
three people linked to a botched federal gun-tracking operation,
Attorney General Marisela Morales said.
“We’re going to get to
the bottom of this and we’re going to punish ... whomever is responsible
for these (crimes),” Morales told the lower house of Mexico’s Congress
in reference to the “Fast and Furious” program, which was run out of the
U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ Phoenix field
office in 2009 and 2010.
She said two extradition proceedings are underway against U.S. citizens suspected of smuggling weapons to Mexico.
of the requests involves three people believed to have acquired “a
large number of weapons” under the Fast and Furious program, the Mexican
attorney general told lawmakers Wednesday.
As part of that
undercover operation, ATF agents allowed thousands of guns to be
illegally acquired from Arizona gun shops by straw purchasers and
smuggled into Mexico.
The idea behind letting the weapons “walk”
across the border was to trace them to powerful drug cartels, but once
the program was underway ATF agents realized they had no dependable way
to monitor the firearms, ultimately losing track of some 2,000 guns.
traced to Fast and Furious have appeared at more than 100 crime scenes
in Mexico and two were found at the location where U.S. Customs and
Border Protection agent Brian Terry was killed in southern Arizona last
December while trying to arrest a group of armed suspects.
said the second extradition request involves another three individuals
who purchased high-powered weapons in Texas that they later transported
The attorney general told lawmakers that another two
U.S. citizens are currently on trial in Mexico for smuggling guns and
grenades into the country.
“We’ve assumed our commitment to inhibit arms smuggling through the effective use of weapons-tracking (software),” she said.
lawmakers have criticized what they say is the Mexican government’s
lack of urgency in demanding that Washington investigate and punish
those responsible for Fast and Furious.
U.S. Attorney General
Eric Holder, who oversees ATF as head of the Justice Department, is
currently the target of a probe by leading Republicans in Congress, some
of whom say he should resign over the scandal.
meanwhile, acknowledged Mexicans’ “concern and indignation” and
reiterated that the effort to combat criminal gangs “is a shared
That means Mexico and the United States must
continue to develop ways to work together to crack down on organized
crime, “always with respect for each nation’s sovereignty,” the attorney
Turf battles among drug cartels and clashes
between mobsters and security forces have left nearly 50,000 dead in
Mexico since President Felipe Calderon took office in late 2006.
says the United States is largely responsible for the violence because
of the high demand for illegal drugs there and the cross-border flow of
weapons to the violent cartels.
No wonder these mayors are against gun ownership
"Gun control advocates were on Capitol Hill Tuesday afternoon to ask
members of Congress to pass legislation that would tighten gun-buying
restrictions. It was part of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns campaign,
led by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Tom Menino, to
make it more difficult for convicted criminals and people found mentally
ill from purchasing guns.—Governing.com"
Vanderboegh reports call between ATF’s Newell and ‘Wide Receiver’ CI-
ATF & the
Washington Post conspired to violate the Tiarht Amendment. "Big Dog"
talks to "Mad Dawg" about Sari Horwitz & Wide Receiver.
On Monday, 13 December 2010, the Washington Post ran a story by Sari Horwitz and James V. Grimaldi entitled [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/12/AR2010121204105.html?nav=emailpage]"U.S. gun dealers with the most firearms traced over the past four years."[/url] It began:
A decade ago, politicians and the press routinely reported on gun stores
across the nation that had the most traces for firearms recovered by
police. In 2003, under pressure from the gun lobby, Congress passed a
law that hid from public view the government database that contained the
gun tracing information.
The Washington Post has obtained the
names of the gun dealers nationwide with the most traces over the past
four years. In addition, The Post has uncovered the names of the
dealers, all from border states, with the most traces from guns
recovered in Mexico over the past two years.
In these paragraphs, Grimaldi and Horwitz admit up front that their sources have violated federal law, called the Tiahrt Amendment.
We now know who at least one of those federal sources that the
Washington Post used for that story was -- William "Gunwalker Bill"
Newell, Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix Field Division.
In a recording of a telephone conversation
obtained by Sipsey Street Irregulars, Newell, who refers to himself as
"the big dog" in Phoenix is overheard talking to a Federal Firearms
Licensee, Mike Detty,
owner of Mad Dawg Global Marketing and a confidential informant for the
Tuscon ATF office, about a variety of subjects, including the
Washington Post story and Operation Wide Receiver, in which Detty played
an integral part.
Although the audio file of the conversation is
not dated, comparing internal evidence in the conversation with the
references to the Washington Post article, it likely took place on 13 or
14 December 2010. Some relevant excerpts:
Detty: I got a call from Sari Horwitz at the Washington Post.
Newell: Oh, yeah, I saw that article.
And she wanted my comments and one of the things that she said to me,
she said . . . I said, 'You know Sari I don't feel comfortable talking
to you at least until I talk to somebody at ATF and see what, kinda,
what they want me to do. Chances are that they won't want me to comment
at all.' And she said, 'well we've already talked to, uh, ATF in
Phoenix,' and I said, 'Well, who did you talk to?' and she said 'Well,
we talked to the SAC Bill Newell there, and he told us that you're the
one that made contact and that you've been cooperating with ATF. . .'
No. She's . . . she's . . . she's . . . she's playing the old . . .
she's a typical reporter playing the old, uh . . . the old, uh, you
know, dropping names, um, no, yeah, he did come to talk to us and what
they did is what they did for that story . . . I saw that story today
and what they did is that they pull court records, and, you know,
there's nothing we can do for them, especially in Arizona and places
like Arizona they have open court records and in the federal system once
the court records are, you know, once the federal and state court
records are filed . . . you know they spent a year doing that story,
they go out and they look at all the different court records. I'm sorry
she called you, it . . . it . . . it's never my intention for her to
Detty: No, no, no, it's just that it . . . it took
me off guard and for her to say, 'Well, yeah, you know he told us that
you were cooperating' and, and, uh . . .
Newell: No, that's
wrong. She's . . . you know, she . . . what, what I said and what she
was referring to is she (unintelligible) people from headquarters
(unintelligible) and what I said was 99 percent of our gun dealers in
the United States cooperate with us . . . she . . . she tried to do the
same thing with me. She talked to several SACs on the border. It's
typical with the reporters, they'll do this. They'll try to say, 'Well,
aren't the gun dealers responsible?' I said, 'listen, if a gun dealer
knowingly allows certain things to occur without any ATF oversight,
yeah." I said 'but 99 percent of our gun dealers are cooperative. They
call us, when, you know, there is something illegal going on or about
to go on.' And I said, 'without that assistance, you know, we couldn't
make the cases we make for the most part. So that's what she's
referring to. I would never, never . . . I mean, this is the first time
in 22 years I ever gotten a call like this. You know, she obviously
played, she obviously played that very well, which I'm sorry that she
did because that was not the . . . you have no obligation to talk to her
at all. If a reporter ever calls you, you're under no obligation to
talk to her at all.
Detty: Well, again, you know she made it
sound like, you know this was being talked about and, 'oh yeah, they
won't have a problem with it because I talked to this guy,' and, and I
left it at that, and what I told was, I said 'Look, you know, um,
whether these guys think I set 'em up or not, um, or whether I'm a
greedy gun dealer that doesn't care about what guns are going south,' I
said, 'either way you print that, I'm the loser,' and I said, 'Don't
attach my name to anything, and don't, um, don't quote me on anything,
um. 'cause it'll come back to you.' So today, happily, I was glad to
see that my name, even my corporate name, was not mentioned in her
article. . .
Newell blaming "court records"
for disclosure of Detty's involvement in straw man sales was a red
herring. In the Grimaldi-Horwitz story there are only four mentions of
court records. Indeed, the bulk of the story involves lists of supposed
"bad guy" gun dealers derived from the illegally-leaked trace data --
which could only have come from the ATF -- and their reactions to being
listed on the Washington Post's illegal list.
One of them was Carter's Country in Houston, who immediately hired Dick DeGuerin to defend them against the slander. Another was Lone Wolf Trading Company:
Wolf Trading Co. in Glendale, Ariz., a suburb of Phoenix, is ranked
eighth on the list with about 1,515 firearms traced. Lone Wolf sits in a
strip mall, next to Spa Tahiti. Inside, model airplanes hang from the
ceiling and the heads of animals adorn the walls. A sign behind the cash
register advertised AK-47s for $499.
Lone Wolf has jumped from No. 61 on the 2004 list.
year, 12 people were indicted on charges of making false statements in
order to buy 17 AK-47-type rifles headed to Mexico. The guns were
purchased from seven stores, including Lone Wolf.
Howard could not be reached for comment. ATF officials said they have no
indication that Lone Wolf is doing anything wrong or illegal.
course not. They're hardly likely to draw attention to their principle
source for Fast and Furious weapons going to the Mexican cartels.
sources who were interviewed by the Washington Post tell Sipsey Street
that they were told by Horwitz and Grimaldi that the ATF headquarters
was cooperating with the story. It is not against the law to publish a
leak from ATF about trace data. It IS a federal crime for ATF personnel
to leak trace data to a media outlet. Obviously the political
interests of ATF headquarters and the Department of Justice coincided
with the Washington Post's agenda in doing the story based on
In the conversation Newell evinces a great
deal of knowledge about the story and indicates that ATF headquarters
was on the line when he he talked to Horwitz. It would be interesting
to me to subject this tape to voice stress analysis and find out where
and about what Newell is lying. Where he begins to stammer is a clue.
I'm sorry that that reporter called you because she called several
people and, you know, there's like four or five reporters that worked on
this thing including a reporter in Mexico and they went out and they
talked to a hundred people (unintelligible) they talked to a ton of
people, they went through court records left and right and you're not
the only gun dealer that they called and I said, 'listen,' I said, "I
can't stop them from calling' and I said, I told another guy, I said,
"You're under no obligation to say anything to these people.' I mean, if
they want, if they start say 'no comment' and hang up the phone, I
mean, you know, you're under no obligation. If you want to make a
comment, then, hey, make a comment, knock yourself out. But if you
notice in that story it says . . . she talked to me on the phone for
about an hour hour which was a three way call to one in our headquarters
and I . . . over and over again I said to all these reporters, I said,
'Listen, most of our great information on firearms trafficking comes
from cooperative dealers who don't want a bad name associated with then
and that's why we work with the NSSF who do all these campaigns' and so I
said, "So, yeah, there are bad dealers. . . there's bad everything. We
have bad ATF agents who get caught up doing things they shouldn't do
and it happens. It's human nature. . .'
Detty: Uh, huh.
And I said ninety nine percent of our dealers are cooperative people
who give us information and really are under no obligation to do so, but
we appreciate when they do.' And of course, I don't know . . . there's
some of that in there but of course they kinda leave that stuff off to
the side because that doesn't . . . that's not juicy, you know?
Newell: But, um, I . . .
And to be honest with you I'd love for them to know the full story
because, um, I'm not a bad guy and I've really gone out of my way to, to
help you guys . . . I mean I've brought you some good cases, and as a
result there's a whole bunch . . . I think probably right now, not
counting anything from Wide Receiver, over twenty people in prison right
now that deserve to be there. Um, and I would love for that story to be
told, and there's just no good way to do that without putting me at
risk. . .
Toward the end of the conversation, Detty gets around to asking about why Wide Receiver hasn't produced any prosecutions:
"You know, I was just curious with, uh, with Wide Receiver, you know,
three years ago, I think, the U.S. Attorney here told me they were
planning on arresting something like forty people and its my
understanding, I think it was, November 10th or November 9th, they made
six arrests here in Tucson.
Detty: But I
haven't seen. . . I check the website daily and I haven't seen a press
release regarding that. Is there a reason that you're waiting on that
or hoping to make more arrests?
Newell: Yeah, there'll be . . .
uh, we're waiting. There's some other stuff going on, uh, that's part
of that, and so it'll be a wait, it'll be a bit here. Probably another
month or so.
Detty: I was just curious because I, well, I mean,
all the time and effort and man hours that went into that one case and I
think we had at least two or three air surveillances from my house and
there was the 48-hour surveillance all the way out to the border and the
50 .38 Supers and (unintelligible) and all that nonsense . . .
Detty: That uh . . .
Detty: That would be a case that you would be able to stand up and hold up the headline and say 'look what we did' . . .
Right. Exactly. Exactly. And, and we plan on doing that, its just the
matter that right now there's another thing going on that, if we did
that right now we'd would mess that other deal up, so . . .
Detty: Gotcha. Okay.
"There's another thing going on."
We now know that the other thing was Fast and Furious.
shortly after this phone conversation -- within hours maybe, within
days certainly -- Brian Terry encountered the muzzle end of a Fast and
Furious Kalashnikov in Peck Canyon.
Addendum: Just before I put this article up this morning, I received this comment from Mike Detty:
I looked at your draft this morning and it is 100% accurate.
am convinced that Sari Horwitz was accurate when she said that Bill
Newell gave her my name as someone who was cooperating with ATF on Wide
Receiver. To my knowledge, at this time, there was no other way she
could have found my name in association with this case unless she got it
from Newell or another ATF agent. It really didn't surprise me since I
was exposed as the CI on every other case I worked for ATF.
first heard of Fast & Furious back in spring of 2010 - though its
code name was not mentioned. A field agent told me, "I have no idea on
why they are letting so many guns go to Mexico or what they are hoping
to do with the information but it makes your case look like small fry,"
he said referring to the 450 guns that were allowed to walk over the
border in Wide Receiver.
Some folks are having technical problems accessing the audio file of
the entire conversation posted at David's site. When we get those
worked out, I will post a notice here and independently so you will be
able to verify the transcript.
Finally, I think it is important
to note for the record that I did not get the tape from Mike Detty, nor
from his attorney, nor from any of his friends. I would, however, like
to take this opportunity to thank the Dogtown Rangers, Wiredog Platoon,
Communications Intercept Section, SSGT Ralph Aloysius Bear, commanding.
(Ralph is Ramsey's first cousin on his daddy's side.) ;-)
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