Egypt: Man who tore Bible to go on trial for blasphemy
by Katherine Weber, The Christian PostPosted: Friday, September 28, 2012, 9:13 (BST)
In a rare exercise of its anti-blasphemy laws, an Egyptian court has
decided to put on trial a radical Muslim blogger who tore pages of the
Bible while attending protests at the US Embassy in Cairo two weeks ago.
Ahmed Mohammed Abdullah, known as Abu Islam, was shown in two videos
posted online desecrating the Christian Bible. In one video, Abdullah
stood before a large crowd and ripped up the holy book. In the second
video, he told the camera, "Next time I will urinate on it."
Abdullah, who is part owner of the ultra-conservative Islamic
television channel Al Uma, told The Associated Press that he was not
practising "contempt for religion" when tearing up the Bible.
"I had always wished to go to court to explain to the world that
there is no such thing as the Bible. Every church in the West has its
own holy book," Abdullah told the AP.
The news agency reports that practising "contempt" for a so-called
heavenly religion, which includes Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, is
punishable by up to five years in prison in Egypt, according to the
country's anti-blasphemy laws, although courts hold the majority of
their religious contempt cases for those speaking out against Islam.
In a related incident, Coptic Christian Saber Eyead Zaki was arrested
for posting the controversial "Innocence of Muslims" video on social
networking sites.
According to NBC News, Zaki was taken from his home without a warrant
and is being held in an undisclosed location. He also stands trial for
"contempt for religion", a the independent US-made film is deemed
offensive to Islam.
These two trials are related to the current unrest in the Middle
East, parts of Asia, and parts of Europe over "Innocence of Muslims",
which reportedly mocks the prophet Muhammad.
The film's promotion two weeks ago caused massive protests throughout
the world, resulting in the reported death of at least 51 people,
including US Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens and three other
Americans.
These simultaneous trials bring up questions of free speech and the
right to protest in Egypt, two human rights issues that were considered
to be great gains as a result of the Arab Spring uprisings and ousting
of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.
Judging by these two recent cases, free speech continues to be
limited in Egypt. Those critical of the country's human rights policies
are questioning if the upcoming constitution, due to take effect by the
end of 2012, will safeguard free speech and protest rights.
Critics have also questioned, assuming Egypt's new constitution does
protect free speech rights, how the "contempt for religion" charge will
hold up.
In a recent speech to the United Nations, Egyptian President Mohammed
Morsi said that the North African country does welcome freedom of
speech, to an extent.
"Egypt respects freedom of expression. One that is not used to incite
hatred against anyone. One that is not directed toward one specific
religion or culture. A freedom of expression that tackles extremism and
violence. Not the freedom of expression that deepens ignorance and
disregards others," Morsi said at the UN General Assembly in New York
City on Wednesday.
Abdullah's trial begins 30 September. His son and a journalist who
interviewed him shortly after he tore the Bible have also been referred
to trial, an Egyptian official told the AP, although the dates of their
individual trials have yet to be set.
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Seems you are trying to present it as something positive (As part of your efforts to defend the MB in Egypt) but to arrest and trial a person just for tearing a (holy) book is not something to be proud of, even if it's a radical Muslim....
Posted Sep-30-2012 Byaydeo (6180.58) 
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@aydeo Its a news story, deal with it...if you want to know what I think, try asking...
Seems like you feel threatened by this in some way
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@ElegantDecline
I don't find anything positive in arresting someone who was tearing a book, doesn't matter if it's the Koran or the Bible.
Since I know you have an agenda regarding the MB, I was assuming you brought this in some sort of positive look..
I simply find it odd that a British is such an advocator of the Muslim Brotherhood, just like I find odd an Australian (DB) who is such an advocator of Assad, or an Arab which is a great advocator of Liebeman&Nethanyhau (the Druze in Israe More..
Posted Sep-30-2012 Byaydeo (6180.58) 
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@aydeo Well when you find a Brit 'advocating' the MB be sure to let me know...in the meantime it appears you're just playing your usual tiresome little game of trying to cast people as supporting radical Islam or whatever...
As I've told you numerous times, if the MB pass a binding constitution that repects the rights of the individual, women and non-muslims, I will be impressed
This post intrigues me as touches on a point a lot of people on both sides are really unaware of...the real conflic More..
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByElegantDecline (2144.68) 
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@ElegantDecline
It's not about supporting radical Islam, and I never ever accused you of doing so, I know it will be a lie.
I already told here many times what my point is, so I wont repeat it, I'll just say I see Deadbeef doing the same with Assad, FreeJay doing the same with Bibi/Lieberman and few others do the same with the Iranian regiem.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Byaydeo (6180.58) 
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@aydeo You said I had an 'agenda' of advocating for the Muslim Brotherhood which is completely ridicolous...but hey, its really up to you if you want to live in a fantasy world...
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByElegantDecline (2144.68) 
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What a load of BS.
It's freedom of speech to tear up a bible - it can only be "blasphemy" if that person was previously believed to have been part of that religion, surely??
Anyway - Blasphemy is a 5th century crime that has NO relevance in today's society, so Egypt can fuck off.
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByRowhan (143.70) 
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Freedom of speech. This wins Egypt no brownie points. You idiots, Westerners don't care if a book was burned, ripped, shat upon. We care about freedom of choice and speech. This guy should NOT go to jail period. Egypt's new Theocracy model is disgusting and perverse. All the people who died during the uprising for freedom died in vain. Egyptians should be ashamed of themselves for making all those deaths in vain for a cheap useless Theocracy.
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByAnonyville (226.60) Anonyville View Channel Send Message
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@Anonyville If we westerners wanted to demonstrate how to be civilized, we would all stand up and defend this Egyptian man's right to rip up the bible.
Make a big worldwide deal out of it, in fact. Get ten thousand Christians to sign a petition to get him out of jail, or something. Defend his right to do what he did, and do so in a public manner.
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Very well thinking!
Voted
Posted Sep-30-2012 Byaydeo (6180.58) 
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@journeyman083 There is quite a bit of footage with Christians surrounding Muslims protecting them while they prayed. Maybe they turned against each other now but the original intention was for a more free society. Which is why the Coptic Christians and Muslims sided with each other during the uprising. If anything the Muslim Brotherhood has hijacked the country but that's what the fools get for not fighting to stop the Theocracy. As far as I'm concerned, it just goes to prove Muslims can not be More..
Posted Oct-1-2012 ByAnonyville (226.60) Anonyville View Channel Send Message
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Braindead nation.
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByHolteEnder (246.90) 
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To little to late.
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByKongored (152.30) 
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no end to the idiocy.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Bystixtoo (125.10) stixtoo View Channel Send Message
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No fuck is given.Why havent they caught the cunts, who raped the journalist yet?
Posted Sep-30-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (606.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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And isn't it ironic... don't you think?
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByBen Cambone (491.50) 
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Not realy. They know that they can't defend their anti-blashemy laws unless they can show that the law is applied on every religion.
Remains to be seen if this is just window dressing and they forget the whole thing soon as nobody is watching.
Posted Sep-30-2012 BySjumppanen (241.14) Sjumppanen View Channel Send Message
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Fuck religion......it kills!!
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByWan-chop (57.20) 
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Well, at least they are consistent...
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByZota (216.24) Zota View Channel Send Message
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We will see if they will keep it up.
Posted Sep-30-2012 BySjumppanen (241.14) Sjumppanen View Channel Send Message
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it is sad that egypt of all places is protecting religion, while here in the US we do nothing to stop dumbasses from burning other peoples relgious books.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Bykanns01 (800.46) 
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You are not "protecting religion" by arresting someone who made damage to a book in order to make a point, you protect religion by education.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Byaydeo (6180.58) 
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no offence aydeo, i do not know if it is your bad english or your incoherent sentence structure, but your comment made no sense.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Bykanns01 (800.46) 
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Yes, I seen it now... lol
Ok, let me try again: If protecting religion, any religion, comes by arresting some one that burned or was tearing a book and putting him on a trial for that, this isn't exactly something to be proud of.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Byaydeo (6180.58) 
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@kanns01 That is because we are not quite as moronic as they are. I am betting you are the first to rail about "religious freedom" and "freedom of speech". Well guess what? This INCLUDES the right to burn a religious book if you see fit. They day we outlaw that is the last day freedom exists in this country.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Bygregsto (2481.98) 
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@kanns01 Actually it was NOT incoherent and it DID make sense.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Bygregsto (2481.98) 
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Hmmm....
Posted Sep-30-2012 ByObeyak (161.50) 
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WHO CARES? THAT BOOK IS FULL OF SHIT ANYWAYS...
Posted Sep-30-2012 Byuruleworld (38.26) 
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who cares, let him think what he wants, if he hates the bible, whats wrong with it? his choice....
Posted Sep-30-2012 Byr3m (331.70) 
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@journeyman083 Agreed.
Posted Sep-30-2012 Bysgtloverlips (226.14) 
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@journeyman083 show the fucking example.... thats it
im a christian quebecois myself and couldnt care less if someone burnt the quran or bible,.... caring about it give these people justifications to act like this....
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