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United Nations Security Council Resolution (UNSCR) 1441
[URL="http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/documents/1441.pdf"]
Here are some highlights of UNSCR 1441:
“Recognizing the threat Iraq’s non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security…”
“Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use ALL NECESSARY MEANS to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area.”
“Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such
weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material.”
“Deploring further that Iraq REPEATEDLY OBSTRUCTED immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to sites designated by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), failed to cooperate fully and unconditionally with UNSCOM and IAEA weapons inspectors, as required by resolution 687 (1991), and ultimately ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA in 1998.”
“Deploring also that the Government of Iraq has failed to comply with its commitments pursuant to resolution 687 (1991) with regard to TERRORISM, pursuant to resolution 688 (1991) to end REPRESSION OF ITS CIVILIAN POPULATION and to provide access by international humanitarian organizations to all those in need of assistance in Iraq…”
“Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a CEASEFIRE would be based on ACCEPTANCE BY IRAQ of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein.”
“Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations”, the UN “Decides that Iraq HAS BEEN and REMAINS IN MATERIAL BREACH of its obligations under relevant resolutions, including resolution 687 (1991), in particular through Iraq’s failure to cooperate with United Nations inspectors and the IAEA, and to complete the actions required under paragraphs 8 to 13 of resolution 687…” and “Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES as a result of its CONTINUED VIOLATIONS of its obligations.”
Let’s recap, shall we?
According to the world community, Saddam did NOT dismantle his WMD development programs or disclose how he destroyed existing chemical weapons stockpiles.
According to the world community, Saddam oppressed his own population.
According to the world community, Saddam supported terrorist groups and allowed them to operate within his country.
According to the world community, for the previously listed reasons, Saddam was in material breach of United Nations Security Council Resolutions 687, 688, 707, 715, 986, and 1284 following the first Gulf War. Any action that puts Iraq in material breach of ANY of these resolutions or ANY of the conditions outlined within justifies the resumption of force, based on UNSCR 687 and UNSCR 1441.
Prior to the 2003 invasion, the Security Council released a press statement reiterating the case for war against Saddam. [URL="http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/SC7564.doc.htm"]
Before the war, the world had reason to view Saddam as a threat to international peace and security.
Here are just a few of the many documented terrorists and terror organizations allowed to operate within Saddam’s Iraq:
Abu Abbas, the man behind the Achille Lauro hijacking and responsible for the murder of Leon Klinghoffer.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the former director of an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, and the man responsible for the assassination of US diplomat Lawrence Foley.
Abdul Rahman Yasin, the al Qaeda member who mixed the chemical explosives used in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Documents discovered in Tikrit show Saddam gave Yasin a home and a monthly salary.
Abu Nidal his organization, responsible for the bombing of a TWA airliner in 1974, resulting in the loss of all 88 lives on board. A total of 275 people died because of terrorist acts committed by the ANO. Abu Nidal lived in with Saddam’s full knowledge and blessing…that is before he “committed suicide” by shooting himself in the head four times.
And let us not forget about Salman Pak, the terrorist training camp near Baghdad where terrorists learned to hijack airliners in an actual aircraft fuselage.
For those who claim Saddam never had WMD, I would like to remind you that Saddam used chemical weapons against Iran during the Iran-Iraq war [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_warfare#Iran-Iraq_War"], and on his own people [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack"].
There you have it, people. Saddam supported terrorists, had AND used WMD, and was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. He also invaded TWO of his neighbors unprovoked. The world community came together through the United Nations to stop him.
And now that he’s been stopped, we have people crying because this murderer is gone.
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By: neoconjerk
In: Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan
Tags: Saddam, WMD, International Law, Lies, Ignorance, Justice, Justification, Pacifist, Murder, Chemical Weapons, United Nations
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Posted by Bartleby1701 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9cc_1191705953
Look, and jerk is probably appropriate here (nice to see you are at least self-aware), you may debate it all you want, but to imply that the notion of war crimes does not even exist, as you have - as if it is some crazy "lib" fantasy, rather than established international law and in fact part of treaties etc. that the U.S. has signed off on (making it U.S. law), is just silly.
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Posted Oct-7-2007 Byneoconjerk (189.02) 
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That's just More..
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Its pretty funny. I just cant understand how anyone can advocate we leave now? OK even if you don't support the reasons Iraq got invaded for. The absolute worst thing anyone could do now is pack up and leave.
You think the middle east hates the US now? Just leave Iraq, let a full fledged civil war break out for 10-20 years. Let it spill out into all the neighboring countries. and presto!
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Posted Oct-7-2007 ByMDMAchine (40.56) MDMAchine View Channel Send Message
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It seems like the more murderous a dictator is, the more "misunderstood" they were to these jokers.
Posted Oct-7-2007 Byneoconjerk (189.02) 
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Great post! Too bad the pinkos won't get it.
Posted Oct-7-2007 Byblackrabbit66 (3839.92) 
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Hahahahahaha. WTF
Posted Oct-8-2007 Byfatandsassy (156.18) 
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The main problem for me is not if war or not war, but HOW to do war. The fact that the US is oppressing the rise of an Iraqi government at the moment says a lot as to this attitude that clearly does not help. It seems like the US wants a civil war so as to justify their stay and keep oppression on different military factions. Hopefully though they all unite against the US and form their country. If that is the strategy then maybe it can work, but I sincerely doubt thats the strategy.
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Posted Oct-8-2007 Byarqerwill (33.06) arqerwill View Channel Send Message
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The US could easily organize the neighboring countries to help build a new Iraq, but that would limit imperialist control on the area and lower stocks on defense contractors.
Some facts of this war might be legal, barely, but most of it is scoundrel play and so human priorities with an independent healthy Iraq seemingly secondary.
Like Israel, who have left the Palestinians living in horrendous conditions, Americans can be such foocktwatz!"
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Good Post.
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