I read in my local paper,that a historical society,had found the grave of soldier who fought at the battle of rorkes drift 22nd of january 1879.Eleven V.Cs where awarded after the battle,the highest award for bravery in the British army.Ever since i was a boy and saw the film zulu with my father,ive took a keen interest in the Zulu war.So it was a great suprise to find out Thomas Burkes grave was a mile from my home!Sorry for the wind,but iam not doing it again lol.One final point,Thomas Burkes south African medal was sold a couple of years ago for £26,000 if he had not been at rorkes drift,it might have sold for £200
By: drivenwell2
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Tags: Zulu war, Roukes drift, Thomas Burke, 22nd january 1879,
Location: Liverpool, England, United Kingdom (UK/GB) (load item map)
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Cool. I love stuff like this. I'm sure there's a shit load of interesting characters buried in the graveyards around my area. I think graveyards are interesting in themselves anyway, perhaps it's the nearness of death and all that.
We have thomas becket, henry iv, joan of navarre, stephen langton, queen bertha, st. mildred and a crap load of other notables...costs a tenner just to see their graves though. Robbin' gits!
Posted Jun-29-2012 ByCargeLock (1983.12) 
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@CargeLock Got some strange looks walking round the cemetery with a camcorder.Took me an hour to find it.Went back the second day to record it.
Posted Jun-29-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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thanks for the history lesson cheers
Posted Jun-29-2012 Bydinglbat (864.46) dinglbat View Channel Send Message
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Perfect weather for a cemetery visit, though not for getting good audio. Is this your first Yoursay? If so, then congratulations! You mentioned about six months ago you were thinking about doing this.
R.I.P. Thomas Burkes, who looked death in the face and did his duty superbly during a desperate fight.
Posted Jun-29-2012 Byjohn1054 (5085.04)

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@john1054 Yes its my first,so ive lost my cherry.lol Your right, i saw one of your post on ACW,and mentioned this guy.Although it was more like a year ago.Think Owen Higgens was egging me on to do it aswell.
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@drivenwell2
Cheers! You avatar reminded me of something. I did a yoursay once that discussed, among other things, that character pictured in "The Patriot".
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4e9_1323320870
Posted Jun-29-2012 Byjohn1054 (5085.04)

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@john1054
Col Tarleton was from liverpool aswell,buggered if i know where hes buried.
Posted Jun-29-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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Nice one mate he has my respect too.
Zulu on bluray is one of the best looking dics out there it is a stunning release.
Posted Jun-29-2012 ByBill Carson (799.44) 
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Cool post, thanks.
Posted Jun-29-2012 ByJroadstein (172.98) 
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Excellent piece of history fella thanks for posting and taking the time to go and film his grave ,when i was a kid in the cinema i stated shouting apparently when they started coming through the hospital roof there coming there coming.
Posted Jun-29-2012 Byanglosaxonwarlord (13594.54) 
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@anglosaxonwarlord Yeh them zulus are scary when your a kid.Remember being the same with planet of the apes,the Charlton Heston film.
Posted Jun-30-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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@BloodyPeasant About 4yrs ago,a LLer posted his own epitaph on here.Said he would soon be dead,but he wasent worried,because we are all made up of stars,and he would one day become a star!Everybody was like WTF,is this a wind up.
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@BloodyPeasant No!
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@JimmyJazz Know the song,but think it refers to the south african war of 1899-1901 against the boer.The kop was named after the battle of spoin-kop.Where several hundred British soldiers where killed by boer commandos.
Posted Jun-29-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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Who throw the bloody spear. ;-)
Posted Jun-29-2012 Bythegrimreaper (230.02) 
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interesting stuff!
Posted Jun-29-2012 Byasylumta2 (811.58) 
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Zulu is a wonderful film, but historically there are a number of errors.
"The film takes place in daylight, whereas in reality, the battle began at 4.30pm and went on throughout the night.
"In the film, Private Henry Hook is a drunk, but in real life, he was quite the opposite.
"It is also inaccurate that the Zulu army stopped on top of the hill and sang to the Welsh soldiers.
"In reality, they had been on the march for four or five days and simply withdrew when they started More..
Posted Jun-29-2012 ByBONGOS (101.50) 
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@BONGOS The film doese show night fighting.The fire from the hospital roof helped the defenders spot the attacking zulus.The zulus withdrew because they spotted Lord chelmsfords relief colum,coming from Isandhlwana!Roughly half the troops killed at Isandhlwana where native levies,and natal defense forces,made up of Boers.The regiment where not called the south Wales borderes till 1881 two years after the battle, they moved to the Brecon beacons in 1873.Most of the regiment where not welsh!despit More..
Posted Jun-29-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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What a beautiful grave marker. Interesting post, much respect! Thanks
Posted Jun-30-2012 Bymarc1921 (1458.06) 
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@marc1921 Thanks for the comment.You would think a grave stone like that would be easy to find?Unfortunatly when i got there, i found about 100 similar crosses,took a lot of leg work to find his.lol
Posted Jun-30-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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--every body remembers "zulu" for michael caine--but what about stanley baker?---
Posted Jun-30-2012 ByARNOLD-R-LANE (1020.18) 
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@ARNOLD-R-LANE Stanley Baker died not long after Zulu.He never made it to the international arena,like Caine did.Although well known in GB for many British made films,when GB still had a film industry.
Posted Jul-2-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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@drivenwell2 --yes he was well respected--yet hardly had the recognition he deserved---
Posted Jul-2-2012 ByARNOLD-R-LANE (1020.18) 
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@Jabeesha Would have thought Donkeys arses was more to your liking.ha ha
Posted Jul-4-2012 Bydrivenwell2 (574.02) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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Frere, on his own initiative, without the approval of the British government[7][8] and with the intent of instigating a war with the Zulu, had presented an ultimatum on 11 December 1878, to the Zulu king Cetshwayo with which the Zulu king could not comply.[
Cetshwayo did not comply and Bartle Frere sent Lord Chelmsford to invade Zululand
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sounds like what America is doing today,invading someone without the Governments approv More..
Posted Jun-29-2012 BySharkGuy (1495.00) SharkGuy View Channel Send Message
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@SharkGuy Its was known as gunboat diplomacy!Do as we say,or we blow you to kingdom come.
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@drivenwell2
why did Frere want a war with the Zulu's,?
what was Frere "saying",.? ....in his gunboat,..;0
Posted Jun-29-2012 BySharkGuy (1495.00) SharkGuy View Channel Send Message
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@SharkGuy It was simply a land grab by the British.The zulus had a standing army of 30,000.The British saw it as a threat.So the forced a war.
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aye,..crazy days back then,.and what seems even crazier today,.
cheers!
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@drivenwell2 and so it still happens today. But now it's not a landgrab. It's putting people in teh right places so they can grab from teh land by proxy
Posted Jun-29-2012 Bythe_MEK (680.80) 
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