After President Obama put at least a temporary kibosh on the Keystone XL pipeline earlier
this year, Republican Congressmen tried to portray him as increasingly
isolated on the issue because they had gained some Democratic support.
Well, hold on, cowboy! Turns out that this portrayal is not quite a true
fact. The Canadian people don’t want new, sludge-filled pipelines,
either—at least, not cutting through their land!
Stymied by the fact that the dirty, gritty tar sands oil is trapped
in the landlocked province of Alberta, Canada’s prime minister, Stephen
Harper, is looking for alternative routes to get the stuff to one coast
or the other. He’s actually taking the drastic measure of considering
how to move it across Canada instead of the United States. Audacious!
However, he declares he’ll
never again be held hostage to U.S. politics. (Excuse me? Canadian
dirty oil. Canadian companies. Canadian profits. Why was he ever
embroiled in U.S. politics in the first place?)
Harper is considering three different routes, using some combination
of existing pipelines, plus building some new ones. Two routes would run
west across Canada to Vancouver, on the Pacific Coast, and one would
run east to the Atlantic Coast. But he’s not taking into consideration
the objections of Canadian citizens. First of all, Vancouver’s mayor is
opposed because of the possible effect on tourism. The other main
concern stems from the same issue that stopped the pipeline in the U.S.
It would cut across agricultural aquifers and pose a danger of poisoning
the water upon which farming depends.
The pipelines would carry a dirty sludge called bitumin that is prone
to causing leaks in pipelines. It has to be extracted from the tar
sands in the first place by creating excessively high carbon dioxide
emissions, and then has to be thinned with chemicals for transport to
faraway refineries. In 2010, a spill of diluted bitumen in Battle Creek,
Michigan closed down the Kalamazoo River. Two years later, parts of the
river remain closed in spite of a cleanup effort that cost over $720
million.
Harper’s government is taking extreme measures to block opposition to
the pipelines. Public hearings have been pushed forward so that groups
don’t have time to organize and mount a challenge on the basis of
environmental impact; limits have been placed on public comments; the
government is threatening to revoke the charitable status of
environmental groups; environmentalists have been added to a list of
potential terrorists. But one obstacle might be beyond the ability of
the government to control—indigenous groups have to be consulted before a
pipeline can be built across their land, and that means negotiating
with 50 different tribes.
Oh, and one other slight obstacle. The eastern route is supposed to
travel through Canada as far as Vermont, and then through Vermont and on
to Maine. The ultimate goal is to end at Maine’s Casco Bay. Another
funny thing, though. Those Mainers seem quite attached to their fishing
and tourism industries. Vermonters and Mainers are joining forces—ready
for a fight, if need be, to stop the project.
By: echo4250
In: Other News
Tags: oil, pipeline
Location: Alberta, Canada (load item map)
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This Canadian wants it.
Posted Jun-15-2012 Bymackme (136.26) 
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What a bunch of crap. Want to know how many pipelines already exist from Canada to the USA - a lot. One more won't make any negative impact. This is all political theater, and the whiners are falling for it.
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByMegadeth (1433.70) 
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Oil is the most valuable commodity to any developed nation, it drives commerce, travel, tourism.. everything.. The fact that the US is currently largely dependent on the MOST FUCKED UP, UNSTABLE, HATEFUL, BACKWARD, BARBARIC part of the world for the MOST IMPORTANT RESOURCE ON THE PLANET... Well.. this bothers me, I am bothered. I would much rather rely on easy to deal with Canadians for such things... Ok Ok, we let them win t hockey and say their beer is good.... fine, we are willing to sacr More..
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByNothingisfree (350.70) 
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Hopefully thats not the case, because when the "loser" has the most powerful military in the world, shit might get Grimm.
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByNothingisfree (350.70) 
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Horseshit. A small and very vocal minority made up of tree huggers and disgruntled Indians doesn't want the pipeline. Those people have one thing in common: They do not have jobs. Those of us like me who have jobs, and who recognize that the economy runs on petroleum, want the pipeline.
Posted Jun-16-2012 Bylivewire242 (475.78) 
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Canadian drillers are among my biggest customers and God bless you, you are doing very well for yourselves, your families, and your country. And for us. Thank you.
Fuck the eco-commies!
Posted Jun-16-2012 ByTexas TEA (391.80)

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Ech4250
Quit smoking that stuff!
Posted Jun-16-2012 Byrobocorv (161.22) 
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Only when they pry my lighter from my cold dead hands!
Posted Jun-16-2012 Byecho4250 (775.04) echo4250 View Channel Send Message
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Obviously not written by a person in, or familiar with, the oil & gas industry.
Posted Jun-16-2012 ByTMoray1 (739.76) 
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I don't know, our master China wants, nay NEEDS that oil.
Seems proud and brave Canadians and Americans need to suck it up,
get over drinking bitumin (it sounds kinda like vitamin, and those'r
good for ya!) and build that pipeline!
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByBoondoggles (175.02) 
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@Boondoggles - Ya Sure! Vitamin 'B'itumen is good for all!
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByFahstahoahn (312.00) 
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@ftpblump You're a gentle reminder that bigots reside worldwide!
Posted Jun-16-2012 ByBoondoggles (175.02) 
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@ftpblump - hold on chuck. to be fair, I'm a halfbreed. Can/Us. living in Canada now, but go between both countries. both sides of the border are completely fucked. just in different ways.
Posted Jun-18-2012 ByFahstahoahn (312.00) 
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Almost everything goes through a pipe,from the processed food you put in your mouth,to the water you drink,to when you take a dump goes through pipes.High tech got tossed out the window in the u.s.a. with a Third World leader.
Posted Jun-15-2012 Byopacity (120.68) 
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@opacity The residents of Battle Creek are still waiting for that "high tech"to clean up their river.
Posted Jun-15-2012 Byecho4250 (775.04) echo4250 View Channel Send Message
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@echo4250 Start with Detroit and work your way back to Tony the Tiger.BTW is Kelloggs Unionized?I don't feel like looking it up,that is why I am asking.
Posted Jun-15-2012 Byopacity (120.68) 
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The article is pure BS . It's only leftist ecofreaks and indians against the pipelines and like any land claims , it isn't hard to buy the indians off . There are two proposed northern pipelines to be built plus a whole port to accomidate super tankers and that means upwards of 50,000 high paying union jobs plus 100 billion per year in taxes and royalties , just on the crude . PM Harper is doing an excellent job and the leftistas are still crying over the election loss .
Posted Jun-15-2012 Byatr (48.58) 
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@atr ..if you buy off natives, are you also buying off Albertans. Think deeper and see who really wins and loses.
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByNepean109 (1016.60) 
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@Nepean109 You might be surprised at how many land owners would grant a right-of-way for a pipeline. As an example it's common for pipeline companies to pay $1 per foot of ROW width per rod of length. If a ROW is 50 wide the landowner receives $50 for every 16 1/2 feet of line laid and retains use of the surface for farming, livestock, etc.
Posted Jun-16-2012 ByTMoray1 (739.76) 
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Is that payout yearly, or just a one time payment?
Posted Jun-16-2012 ByBthor420 (838.60) 
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@Bthor420 Usually one time. Any subsequent damages, if any, such as spills are negotiated if and when they occur. I know one man who charges based on the amount of product that goes through the line but don't know the details. That's a continuing payment.
Posted Jun-17-2012 ByTMoray1 (739.76) 
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@1812 That would make sense for Canada. The U.S. could use some new ones too but it takes years for approval and costs *zillions* of dollars.
Posted Jun-16-2012 ByTMoray1 (739.76) 
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I live in canada, but i'm not canadian, i am not part of this pagan, baby killing, immoral culture that spits on workers and prosperity and demands more and more handouts from the steadily shrinking middle class. soon we will be gone and you won't get a damn thing from the gov't who has been stealing it from me on your behalf.
Posted Jun-16-2012 Byedgenews (95.90) 
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Just sell the oil to China.
Posted Jun-15-2012 Bykarrion (439.16) 
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@karrion They are now that the pipeline to our refineries is blocked. They still have to build pipeline to one coast or the other so that anyone can get at it.
Posted Jun-15-2012 Bykajidono (686.36)

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Fucking douchebag Harper, and fucking douchebag puppet/Mr.Rodgers double- Mcguinty. May their heads be on pikes within the next couple of years.
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByFahstahoahn (312.00) 
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Canadians don't care if the oil goes to America or China. "Free trade" pushed by our US friends sent a lot of our jobs to China. So, bid for our oil or not. We don't care. Will American refiners or Chinese lower our Walmart prices - my guess, Chinese.
Posted Jun-15-2012 ByNepean109 (1016.60) 
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