http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDNEH5v4Jtw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XbMmmKjM_s&feature=related
Now here is where the biggest problems are - we pay these taxes and extra money for stuff to be kosher even if we dont want it to be kosher and for all we know its not even kosher.
Are we being forced to pay extra for our products because Jews want everything kosherized....even our foil paper.
http://www.usda.gov/oig/webdocs/24601-2-KC%20conagra%20091603.pdf
i am just pasting snip-its from the USDA link you can read the full story on the link:
At the request of the Senate Committee on
Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry, we
performed an audit of the Food Safety and
Inspection Service’s (FSIS) oversight of the
recall by the ConAgra Beef Company
(ConAgra) of 18 million pounds of ground beef and beef products suspected of being contaminated with E. coli O157:H7. ConAgra, Establishment 969, is located in Greeley,
Colorado. The Committee requested that we review the effectiveness of
the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) recall system as it was put in
practice during the recall at ConAgra.
Pathogen testing and HACCP. The HACCP program was designed to rely
on scientific, microbial testing to determine the wholesomeness of meat
products. The program generally requires FSIS to test for E. coli O157:H7
at plants producing ground beef. We found that FSIS inspectors at
ConAgra did not perform their own tests and did not review other test
results that were available to them.
you get the picture but read it and see all the contamination the USDA would find especially with E. Coli and the exceeding limit of rodent hairs and insect parts
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-06-19/us/us_hebrew-national-kosher_1_kosher-meat-hebrew-national-rabbinical-supervision?_s=PM:US
Hebrew National sued over non-kosher allegations
June 19, 2012
By Logan Burruss, CNN
The largest kosher food brand in the United States, Hebrew National, known for its tagline "We Answer to a Higher Authority," is being sued in federal court for allegedly not meeting the kosher standards it famously advertises.
The lawsuit, which was first filed by 11 plaintiffs in May, alleges that the popular brand has been negligent and violated several consumer fraud laws when it failed to follow its own standards for kosher meat.
According to accusations made in the complaint, Hebrew National products are not being made from 100% kosher beef and the food processing plants used by the company fail to follow the procedures necessary to meet its kosher definition.
Hebrew National's "deceptive and wrongful conduct is designed to mislead and deceive consumer into purchasing its Hebrew National products, at premium prices, by labeling and marketing it as 100% kosher," the complaint states.
ConAgra Foods Inc., the parent company of Hebrew National and defendant in the case, denies the allegations.
"Hebrew National hotdogs are kosher, and this lawsuit is without merit," according to a written statement from Teresa A. Paulsen, vice president of communications and external relations for ConAgra Foods. "Hebrew National's kosher status is certified by a well-recognized and authorized third party. There is close rabbinical supervision of the food preparation process and packaging equipment."
The complaint stipulates that Hebrew National receives meat products from AER Services Inc., an Illinois-based company that provides kosher meat processing and inspection services. In addition, Hebrew National employs a third party, Triangle K and Associates, to act as a certifier, guaranteeing the kosher nature of all AER products received.
"The Triangle K symbol is a trademarked logo that signifies 'kashruth' (kosher) as defined by the most stringent Jews who follow Orthodox Jewish Law," the Hebrew National website states. "It's a symbol of integrity, representing the most trusted and reliable name in strict rabbinical food certification and supervision."
But according to the lawsuit, certain AER employees involved in the process have complained to supervisors at both AER and Triangle K that certain procedures were rendering the meat not kosher. The lawsuit alleges that despite warnings, little or nothing was done to fix the problem, "rather, the persons making the complaints were terminated or otherwise threatened with adverse retaliation, such as job transfers."
A statement from Triangle K described the accusations as "outrageously false and defamatory," claiming they had "been made by anonymous disgruntled individuals against Triangle K's strict rabbinical supervision of Hebrew National products."
Neither AER Services nor Triangle K and Associates is listed as a defendant in this lawsuit.
Attorneys for the plaintiffs are now pushing for the case to be granted class action status. Court documents indicate that ConAgra has until July 13 to respond to the class action complaint.
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This is a revelation? Kosher and halal have been money-motivated scams since day 1
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byhotmess (69.40) 
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how often do you see something on the shelves at the supermarket that is halal...normally you have to go to a middle eastern store to find halal products...which is cool if its in their own stores.....go to your local super market and see 75% or more of the stuff is kosher except for most meats. for it to be kosher the companies have to pay the rabbis and their fees then they mark the product up to make us pay for it. its time these companies stood up for themselves and said fuck it More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByOnlyLiarsBlock (623.50) 
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@OnlyLiarsBlock The reason for the popularity of kosher products in the US is because people have come to trust the certification process. Kosher certification requires that the products be clean and without improper handling as to prevent cross contamination.
If you don't like to pay 1 cent extra for the cost then by all means buy only nonkosher foods at the supermarket.
* In 1975 the cost per item for obtaining kosher certification was estimated by The New York Times as being 6.5 millionths More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByMajorPaynei86 (101.90) 
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Yeah but think of the savings, those $0.000000065 add up.
in several thousand years of buying frozen food items, OnlyLiarsBlock will have saved enough cents to buy some bubble gum or something.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bygatyair (950.18) gatyair View Channel Send Message
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so you buy everything the media tells you as the truth. even if it were true that was just on frozen food items and in 1975.....nowadays we pay that tax on everything including foil paper and laundry detergent. yes there are other options....way less quality options in the generic brands. i dont want paper thin foil paper so i buy reynolds wrap and because jews cant open their own stores like the muslims to sell their halal stuff we have to pay extra. and its not the amount More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByOnlyLiarsBlock (623.50) 
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Anything to do with religion is a scam. I do prefer my hot dogs circumcised though ;)
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byrugbybloke25 (315.32) 
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Screw the jews and screw HN. Their hot dogs are the absolute worst.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByNeo (46.50) 
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@Neo you have never tried a hebrew national
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byhotmess (69.40) 
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Let them eat BACON
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bybrontemark (381.50) 
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kosher is just another way jews use to siphon money out of communities. Don't even bother arguing any other point but what it is.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bypieceseeker (45.20) 
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When was the last time you saw a jar of non-Kosher pickles. Around 3 decades ago Tabasco (trademark of McIlhenny Co.) sauce went Kosher (-K-). Shortly after there was an segment on "60 Minutes" about Tabasco be being one of the only off the shelf condiments found in upscale restaurants. Now every MRE meal comes with a miniature bottle of Tabasco sauce.
Next time you see a package of Kosher hot dogs, check the fat content. We've also got Pavre (OK, but not Kosher) to cover everyth More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByTMoray1 (783.76) 
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According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics there were 13,421,000 Jews worldwide in 2009, roughly 0.19% of the world's population at the time yet According to OU Kosher "certifies" 500,000 products in 83 countries
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bycremation (267.44) 
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There is no "kosher tax" and nobody is forcing companies to go kosher. The "Kosher tax" is essentially white supremacist propaganda.
Do companies pay for a rabbi to inspect the facilities? Sure, but then you could say we pay a "worker tax" because you have to pay the workers....
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byjum_runky (1630.84) 
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@jum_runky The final consumer of a product pays all the taxes on that product. The consumer is like the person who doesn't get a chair in musical chairs.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByTMoray1 (783.76) 
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You're also paying for workers, facility upgrades etc. Are you recommending overworking workers at slave wages with primitive equipment?
Costs would drop.
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@jum_runky "You're also paying for workers, facility upgrades etc." Absolutely. Costs of doing business, but necessary. And no, I'm not advocating slave wages but if you look at how the ratio of executive salaries to workers pay has changed over the last few decades maybe we already have slave wages.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByTMoray1 (783.76) 
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Apparently some business also see marketing to kosher-keeping Jews that way.
People who don't like it could always boycott kosher foods.
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We're in agreement, then.
I see kosher certification as a business expense no different than advertising to any other demographic.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Byjum_runky (1630.84) 
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come on. i mean, how many of you mutherfuckers eat hebrew national anyway? just another bandwagon to jump on. let the hate flow, biitches.
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bytavolo (277.52) 
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its not just hebrew national. we have to pay extra for our reynolds wrap foil so it can be kosher for them. as well as many other things.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByOnlyLiarsBlock (623.50) 
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@OnlyLiarsBlock no. you choose to. no one makes you. that is the beauty of our industrious country. there are many other options for you to choose from. just like we look for the kosher label, you too can look for non kosher labels, if you choose. peace!
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bytavolo (277.52) 
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yes you are right...the other option is the cheap brand that is paper thin. so because jews need special items they pretty much demand all our products all be kosher instead of setting up their own shops selling kosher items. at least muslims have to go to their own middle eastern grocery stores to get 90% of their halal items especially their meats. so because i want reynolds wrap which is a better quality then the paper thin generic brands not only do i have to pay extra for it be More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByOnlyLiarsBlock (623.50) 
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@OnlyLiarsBlock do you really think like that? how backward a way of thinking! first, reynolds hasn't cornered the market on "thick" foil. even store brands have "heavy" foil. but, if it makes you feel better blaming jews for your foil, well, ok. second and most importantly, the idea of segregating people or relegating them to shop in "jewish grocery stores" to "carry your products there" is about as hateful and racist as well as shameful a way of thinking More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 Bytavolo (277.52) 
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so you are ok with muslims starting to say ok for us to buy your products everything must be halal and you must pay these imams to make your products halal. or are you ok with the fact that muslims have not imposed this extra fee on all our everyday products and sell it in their own stores. i am not a racist or hateful person. i just hate the fact that i have to pay extra if i want the good quality stuff not just because its better quality, but because it has to be kosher. its esti More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByOnlyLiarsBlock (623.50) 
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This lawsuit is without merit. Jared Carter, one of the attorneys spearheading this fraudulent claim, is a liberal environmentalist crackpot. Remember, when it comes to a liberal - agenda trumps facts (truth).
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByDemonpreyer (223.50) 
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more to it than just the lawsuit against hebrew national/conagra. like why does everything have to be kosher in america including our f$cking foil paper. if they want to live a kosher life...move to israel. i am sick and tired of having to pay extra for my stuff....because you know damn well the manufacturers factor in the money they have to pay to have it kosherized into the cost of the goods. also even the USDA has noted all the contamination at Conagra and dong forget the E More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByOnlyLiarsBlock (623.50) 
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This lawsuit is not about the E. Coli outbreak, it's about the food not being Kosher, which is an outright falsehood and without merit.
E. Coli outbreaks happen all the time in the United States because people don't thoroughly cook their food. The bacteria is everywhere and in everything, not just from food products.
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByDemonpreyer (223.50) 
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so you work at hebrew national to know for a fact everything is 100% kosher. we dont know until all the evidence comes out. my post is not just about hebrew national possibly not being kosher but all the manufacturers charging us, the consumer extra to make their products kosher to please the jews. i bet if everything had the halal symbol on it and we were paying extra especially for non food items which is mind boggling that foil paper has to be kosher but could you imagine it More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByOnlyLiarsBlock (623.50) 
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Non-Jews in the United States like Hebrew National products.
There's only around 6 million Jews in the USA. If Hebrew National was just placating to the Jews in the USA it would have went out of business a long time ago.
Halal products are sold all over the United States, but not doing very well, because Halal products support Islamic terrorism and Sharia law.
Every year in the USA, the majority of lawsuits from environmentalist crackpots get thrown out.
If the guy was reputab More..
Posted Jun-22-2012 ByDemonpreyer (223.50) 
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Even if companies have perfect running regulated equipment mandated by law, they still run the risk of E. Coli outbreaks. It's going to happen even with all the regulations.
Companies (Conagra) that don't adhere to Global Climate Change get scrutinized with a fine tooth comb, while companies that do adhere get the blind eye treatment and less scrutiny.
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