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Sometimes the Lord has no mercy on your soul and it will make you suffer.....is it right to meet your maker early?

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  • We do it to other animals. I think that it should be allowed in some cases, but lets not go overboard where we are performing euthanasia against people's wills. It is a tough topic, especially when it isn't up to the person, but the family members (then you have the courts involved and professionals could overide the wishes of family members. I disagree with state sponsored euthanasia. But if the individual or the family wants it, I am not opposed). Good topic, voted.

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  • It is a sort of 'slippery slope issue.
    Here in the US, we spend a TREMENDOUS amount of precious medical resources just to keep dying people alive just a little bit longer, when we should really be conserving those resources for people who actually have a chance to survive. There is a statistic out there that says that in the USA, most of our medical resources are spent in the last weeks of a persons life, essentially prolonging death. "Pulling the plug' is a concept I happen to be a beli More..

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  • Spudmonkey: "
    oOAmericanOo: "Good post, thanks! It should be the right of every human. Besides, what business is it of those who oppose it. Not only for physical pain either. Those that are ready to kill themselves by jumping off a bridge or building. That method is too messy, these people should have options. I've seen a guy jump from a building just as I was walking up to it. He landed a few yards from me and I saw his head pop like a watermelon. This guy needed some counseling, and if he still wanted to die, he should have been given that option. I felt bad for the paramedics that s More..
    I agre but there is a moral issue here, many religious people think it is a major no no, in that we as humans and people of god do not have the right to decide when we should end our own life"
    Actually the main argument against it is in the checks and balances. Also it's thought that some old people would be emotionally blackmailed by their families to relieve them of the burden.

    Personally I don't see why a lot of these things would not be overcome. I for one would wish to see euthanasia as an option under certain cirumstances.

    It's painful to see people lose their dignity especially when the care isn't there. Look at some of our geriatric wards and the disgusting way those unlucky enough to end up there have suffered by the staff just awaiting their death. (Brighton General Hostpital is one of the worst offenders and it still goes on even after being exposed).

    Terminally ill and those suffering extreme pain beyond any medical help should definitely have that option if we are to call ourselves a humain society.

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  • Soylent Green is peeeeeople......ARGH!!!

    I don't know, but it seems that controlled euthanasia would be a lot less messy that a bullet to the brain.

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  • my goodness. my life is terrible i just cant take it *trys to slit wrists with a rusty butter knife*

    well maybe this will rid the world of emo's. that'll weed them out. they'll all be killing themselves.

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  • I would perform self-euthanasia,I aint paying no goddamn doctor.

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  • Spudmonkey: "
    oOAmericanOo: "Good post, thanks! It should be the right of every human. Besides, what business is it of those who oppose it. Not only for physical pain either. Those that are ready to kill themselves by jumping off a bridge or building. That method is too messy, these people should have options. I've seen a guy jump from a building just as I was walking up to it. He landed a few yards from me and I saw his head pop like a watermelon. This guy needed some counseling, and if he still wanted to die, he should have been given that option. I felt bad for the paramedics that s More..
    I agre but there is a moral issue here, many religious people think it is a major no no, in that we as humans and people of god do not have the right to decide when we should end our own life"
    The government should not make decisions based on religious beleifs. Religious organizations should not impose their beleifs on the government or population.
    imo

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  • Gawdnbennett: "
    Spudmonkey: "
    oOAmericanOo: "Good post, thanks! It should be the right of every human. Besides, what business is it of those who oppose it. Not only for physical pain either. Those that are ready to kill themselves by jumping off a bridge or building. That method is too messy, these people should have options. I've seen a guy jump from a building just as I was walking up to it. He landed a few yards from me and I saw his head pop like a watermelon. This guy needed some counseling, and if he still wanted to die, he should have been given that option. I felt bad for t More..
    I agre but there is a moral issue here, many religious people think it is a major no no, in that we as humans and people of god do not have the right to decide when we should end our own life"
    Actually the main argument against it is in the checks and balances. Also it's thought that some old people would be emotionally blackmailed by their families to relieve them of the burden.

    Personally I don't see why a lot of these things would not be overcome. I for one would wish to see euthanasia as an option under certain cirumstances.

    It's painful to see people lose their dignity especially when the care isn't there. Look at some of our geriatric wards and the disgusting way those unlucky enough to end up there have suffered by the staff just awaiting their death. (Brighton General Hostpital is one of the worst offenders and it still goes on even after being exposed).

    Terminally ill and those suffering extreme pain beyond any medical help should definitely have that option if we are to call ourselves a humain society."
    Hmmm... Can I quote that elsewhere? You put that in words very nicely.

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  • UbiquitousReposte: "Imgaine it, you live your life as you will. You work hard, raise your children in your image, all your experiences, your friendships, loves, you're respected in your community.

    Then, at the arse end of your life, all dignity removed, your a burden on your family because you have dementia, they love the person you once were and that's why they help you, you cant control your bodily functions, when you're lucid you are in pain because you have terminal cancer and you have to rediscover that your wife or husband died a few years ago and its like learning it for the ver More..
    Yes; nothing like self-serve anyway.

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  • Spudmonkey: "
    UbiquitousReposte: "
    Spudmonkey: "
    UbiquitousReposte: "Imgaine it, you live your life as you will. You work hard, raise your children in your image, all your experiences, your friendships, loves, you're respected in your community.

    Then, at the arse end of your life, all dignity removed, your a burden on your family because you have dementia, they love the person you once were and that's why they help you, you cant control your bodily functions, when you're lucid you are in pain because you have terminal cancer and you have to rediscover that your wife or husb More..
    Only those that can afford it will get over to Switzerland, not sure of the cost but I'd imagine it isn't cheap. So that leaves mercy killings, imagine having your spouse constantly telling you that they are in pain "please kill me" and it will get to the point where you feel you have to do something. You in effect kill your partner and not only do you have to live with that but the added stress of facing a court case and possibly prison.

    I say legalise it, make it extremely difficult to do and create many hoops for them to jump through bnut do not remove that last resort for peace and comfort"
    Yeah, I hear what you are saying, but my point is, what's to stop people offing their troublesome rellys with an overdose of "shut the hell up".

    How can you guarantee they all wanted to die? I think it would be extremely hard to regulate "bring out yer dead!" from Monty Python springs to mind. "Hang on a minute, he's not dead" the one guy goes "as good as!" says the other.

    My grandmother had terminal breast cancer. She managed to end it by witholding her own medicine so she deteriorated much faster. I would want to ask the cleaner a few questions like "do you actually think that those smarty looking things down the side of this pensioners bed are smarties?""
    HAHA..I'm sure that any mercy killing acted out by the state will be just that, acted out by the state. The same laws would still apply to people that decide to do a DIY job. There would be a medical panel, experts, psychologists, social workers, who would all hep look at each individual case"
    Yeah, but think of the time and effort it would take. Doesn't the hipocratic (sic) oath say something like "do no harm unless they are ginger"

    Whilst the panel of people decide whether to assist in someone's suicide, that person would endure that agony for much longer and probably die in the meantime.

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  • I'm absolutely positive there is no God.

    He told me himself.

    If I were ever to have the need for suicide, I'd overdose on something pleasant. Like heroin. That'd be perfect.
    Why is that so damned taboo?

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  • Spudmonkey: "
    zero-g: "hey spud,never knew about legal places for this.ILLEGAL in the U.S. i'm sure you've heard of DR. KAVORKIAN.he helped people to die and was sent to prison for it.my wife worked in nursing homes for several years and saw 1st hand the endless suffering of some as they slowly withered away while in differing states of pain or uncureable disease. i know that in many cases she is for it, and i am in agreement."
    apparently it is very common in Holland...someone mi More..
    unfortunately yes.it's not legal anywhere in the US

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  • oOAmericanOo: "
    twright55: "It is a sort of 'slippery slope issue.
    Here in the US, we spend a TREMENDOUS amount of precious medical resources just to keep dying people alive just a little bit longer, when we should really be conserving those resources for people who actually have a chance to survive. There is a statistic out there that says that in the USA, most of our medical resources are spent in the last weeks of a persons life, essentially prolonging death. "Pulling the plug' is a concept I happen to be a believer in.
    BUT, where does it stop?...who get's to make the decis More..
    Throwing away downs syndrome babies? Oh my.. What speculation. I suppose it would be the same as saying; 'If we give people cars everybody will run over who ever they want when ever they want.'
    Good response though twright55 Peace"
    Well not really, you have to look at the other spectrum of people's thinking. The Nazis for instance and their euthanasia program, killing all mentally ill to save on resources. As I said I think as long as the right checks and balances are put in place, the circumstances are strictly defined and it's the will of the patient this stuff can be worked out.

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  • UbiquitousReposte: "Imgaine it, you live your life as you will. You work hard, raise your children in your image, all your experiences, your friendships, loves, you're respected in your community.

    Then, at the arse end of your life, all dignity removed, your a burden on your family because you have dementia, they love the person you once were and that's why they help you, you cant control your bodily functions, when you're lucid you are in pain because you have terminal cancer and you have to rediscover that your wife or husband died a few years ago and its like learning it for the ver More..
    Only those that can afford it will get over to Switzerland, not sure of the cost but I'd imagine it isn't cheap. So that leaves mercy killings, imagine having your spouse constantly telling you that they are in pain "please kill me" and it will get to the point where you feel you have to do something. You in effect kill your partner and not only do you have to live with that but the added stress of facing a court case and possibly prison.

    I say legalise it, make it extremely difficult to do and create many hoops for them to jump through bnut do not remove that last resort for peace and comfort

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  • Brentaubrey: "I'm absolutely positive there is no God.

    He told me himself.

    If I were ever to have the need for suicide, I'd overdose on something pleasant. Like heroin. That'd be perfect.
    Why is that so damned taboo? "
    I bet you wouldnt know where to find it,and if you did I bet they wouldnt sell it to you.

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  • twright55: "It is a sort of 'slippery slope issue.
    Here in the US, we spend a TREMENDOUS amount of precious medical resources just to keep dying people alive just a little bit longer, when we should really be conserving those resources for people who actually have a chance to survive. There is a statistic out there that says that in the USA, most of our medical resources are spent in the last weeks of a persons life, essentially prolonging death. "Pulling the plug' is a concept I happen to be a believer in.
    BUT, where does it stop?...who get's to make the decision? Next thing you More..
    Good post, it is a moral mine field and I often think about the waste of resources and energy on the very old when all that money and time could be spent on the very young.

    Then again, if it was my father in that situation I'd want the medical staff to pull out all the stops to save/cure him

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  • Gawdnbennett: "
    Spudmonkey: "
    oOAmericanOo: "Good post, thanks! It should be the right of every human. Besides, what business is it of those who oppose it. Not only for physical pain either. Those that are ready to kill themselves by jumping off a bridge or building. That method is too messy, these people should have options. I've seen a guy jump from a building just as I was walking up to it. He landed a few yards from me and I saw his head pop like a watermelon. This guy needed some counseling, and if he still wanted to die, he should have been given that option. I felt bad for t More..
    I agre but there is a moral issue here, many religious people think it is a major no no, in that we as humans and people of god do not have the right to decide when we should end our own life"
    Actually the main argument against it is in the checks and balances. Also it's thought that some old people would be emotionally blackmailed by their families to relieve them of the burden.

    Personally I don't see why a lot of these things would not be overcome. I for one would wish to see euthanasia as an option under certain cirumstances.

    It's painful to see people lose their dignity especially when the care isn't there. Look at some of our geriatric wards and the disgusting way those unlucky enough to end up there have suffered by the staff just awaiting their death. (Brighton General Hostpital is one of the worst offenders and it still goes on even after being exposed).

    Terminally ill and those suffering extreme pain beyond any medical help should definitely have that option if we are to call ourselves a humain society."
    another topic altogether but well put.

    Those that have served their nation in war and tax are left to suffer at the hands of a Nigerian immigrant or a teenage school leaver in a private run nursing home only working for profit and gain.....(off topic here but you started it).

    It makes me sick to the stomach that our senior generatiuon are can be treated in such a way but that might say more about society and family values than it does about our health care.

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  • Christians believe that that suffering is a part of the cross they must carry and must therefore deal with it as best as they can.

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  • hey spud,never knew about legal places for this.ILLEGAL in the U.S. i'm sure you've heard of DR. KAVORKIAN.he helped people to die and was sent to prison for it.my wife worked in nursing homes for several years and saw 1st hand the endless suffering of some as they slowly withered away while in differing states of pain or uncureable disease. i know that in many cases she is for it, and i am in agreement.

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  • GOOD SUBJECT MATTER FOR DEBATE,and it's not about the war,voted this one,very curious to see what others have to say.

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  • Spudmonkey: "fucking typos"
    I know, they're terrorists, every one of 'em!!

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  • YBP: "Christians believe that that suffering is a part of the cross they must carry and must therefore deal with it as best as they can."
    Christians can do what they like but the basic rights of the human should be considered above religeon. If the victim's faith is against it, it's up to them to decide not the church or anyone else.

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  • Brentaubrey: "I'm absolutely positive there is no God.

    He told me himself.

    If I were ever to have the need for suicide, I'd overdose on something pleasant. Like heroin. That'd be perfect.
    Why is that so damned taboo? "
    Very dignified :D

    Just hope that one of your kids doesn't find you with needle in hand and belt strapped tightly around your arm.

    I suppose it is better than jumping in front of a train and pissing the rest of society off by making them late for work

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  • Spudmonkey: "
    mickeeteeze: "Illegal here.....but there is a "black market"."
    they call it the right to bare arms ;)

    "
    It's called ''buy a lethal dose of heroin'' ;)

    My suggestion is to watch the movie 'The Barbarian Invasions '. Pretty good movie about this touchy subject :) 100% in favor of euthanasia if the disease is fatal.

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  • afreegreek: "euthanasia in the hands of a socialist medical system is foolishness at it's best."
    or worst?
    It comes down to who get's to make the decision.
    If it is a bunch of bureaucrats trying to save money (whether insurance companies or the government) then people would be put to death just for racking up a bill higher than the cost of the euthanasia shot. (hyperbole folks, hyperbole)
    But if it is up to most family members (and they are not paying for it 'out of pocket'), then More..

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