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Tough Questions May Signal US NATO Defeat With Quicker, Quieter End to Afghanistan War
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By Sara Sorcher
National Journal







It’s no secret that Congress’s enthusiasm for the long war in Afghanistan has been waning—but you know support is low when even John McCain, one of the Senate’s staunchest defense hawks, is questioning whether the war is still worth fighting.



McCain, ranking member on the Senate Armed Services Committee, on Thursday insisted that the Obama administration should not draw down the 68,000 troops currently in the volatile country and let them fight through 2014. Otherwise, the U.S. should consider ending the war altogether. “If we can’t accomplish the mission, I’m not sure why we should stay,” the Arizona Republican said at the nomination hearing for Gen. Joseph Dunford to become the next commander of the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan. Over the last 11 years, McCain added, “We haven’t seen the progress that we had hoped would take place.”



Recent headlines have indeed painted a grim picture of current conditions on the ground in Afghanistan: Dozens of green-on-blue attacks carried out by Afghan forces or their imposters have killed 58 NATO troops just this year, including 35 Americans; the Obama administration’s attempts to strike a peace deal with the Taliban are stalled; and violence on the ground, including some spectacular attacks, continues. The war's most destructive single strike on Western materiel took place in September, when militants fought their way into a military base in Helmand province and destroyed six Harrier jets, resulting in a loss of nearly $200 million worth of equipment.



Having already withdrawn the 33,000 “surge” troops this fall, the Obama administration might be swayed by deteriorating conditions on the ground and growing skepticism on Capitol Hill to accelerate the withdrawal of the remaining 68,000 U.S. troops. Public polls already show support for the war dropping steeply among Americans from both parties, with 70 percent of those polled in March saying the U.S. should not be fighting in Afghanistan and roughly the same percentage believing the fighting is going “badly.” If congressional support continues to flag, the end could be nearer. And quieter.



Senators—even Republicans—are not immune to the on-the-ground reality in Afghanistan. Even Dunford’s repeated optimistic sentiments that “we are making progress” in the war effort and “our objectives are achievable” appeared to fall on deaf ears.



“General, twice you have stated this morning that you believe that our objectives in Afghanistan are achievable and of course the primary objective in Afghanistan since 2009 has been to disrupt, dismantle, and eventually defeat al-Qaida in the region and prevent its return to either Afghanistan or Pakistan,” Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine., said, going on to cite national intelligence estimates and other reports that cast doubts on the ability of the Afghan National Security forces to consolidate security gains made in Afghanistan over the past decade. “Given the escalation of insider attacks, the sanctuaries [for militants] that still exist in Pakistan, and the level of corruption in the Afghan government, why do you believe that the objectives are indeed attainable? It seems to me that the intelligence reports — the lack of progress, the surge in insider attacks — paint a very bleak picture.”



Afghan war commander Gen. John Allen, whose nomination to become NATO's supreme allied commander and leader of U.S. forces in Europe was put on hold for an investigation into potentially inappropriate e-mails, has drafted several options for a follow-on force that would remain in Afghanistan after most combat forces withdraw at the end of 2014. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta says the process of reviewing those options with the White House is expected to be completed within the next few weeks. Meanwhile, Washington and Kabul are beginning negotiations on drafting a new security agreement for the post-2014 time frame.



Dunford said he was not included in the discussions about Allen’s war recommendations. The Marine general, who has never served in Afghanistan, will inherit all the challenges of withdrawing the bulk of U.S. and NATO forces and transitioning security responsibilities to the Afghan government and security forces, whether or not they are fully ready. At least for the United States and NATO, it seems clearer by the day that the long Afghan conflict is entering its final stage.


Added: Nov-15-2012 Occurred On: Jan-10-2013
By: BekasKhan
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  • You cant win a war within a country where the neighboring countries continue to provide safe harbour and security as well as personel for your enemy. All while smiling in your face and taking your millions in aid. Silly Americans. ;)

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  • "We're leaving in 2014, so will you Taliban guys sit down and negotiate your surrender? Please?"

    We're led by morons. Fight to win - whatever that requires. Or get out - NOW.

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  • McNuts will be back like the terminator with more wars and bigotry to douse us with.
    Believe that.
    So don't get your hopes up.
    After all, he was probably the first to openly admit the US NEEDS to fund and arm Al Qeada and their Islamist extremist brothers in Syria.

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  • Defeat?

    Osama is DEAD as well as about 400,000 jihadis... you call that a victory for the jihadis?

    LOL!

    Well we are inclined to let you keep 'WINNING!!'

    LMFAO!!

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    • @wormhole oh yes im a complete fucking retard, an idiot of very limited mental and intellectual capacity. but even i am smarter than your stupid ass :)

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    • @wormhole

      Yeah I gave up on this guy. Perhaps you should do the same.

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    • @thinkslaughter
      The problem there is, what the fuck does any of it have to do with Afghanistan. We went in there for a guy who was never found to be guilty of what we went after him for, and then he turned out to be in a different country and we never once followed the money trail to Saudi Arabia. So we've been primarily fighting the Taliban, which is stupid because the Taliban has always been there and they aren't terrorists like al qaeda either, more like an Arab version of Ewoks. So what ag More..

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    • @thinkslaughter
      Youre totally right and youre the only rational person here. The ignorance of some is just ridiculous.

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  • ya can paint an outhouse,put flowers around it even put a fancy mirror on the wall to dress it up,but it will never be a mansion or a palace it will always be a outhouse full of stink

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  • Where is the defeat?

    We showed up, took over your country, and then hung out for 10+ years. We walk and drive around anywhere we want, at anytime we want. We have created and funded more schools and public resources than your government had in 50 years.

    We could kill every living organism in the entire country if we wanted to.

    We killed hundreds of thousands of terrorists. Our kill loss ratio is 100/1 or more.

    You cower like women when we show up.

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    • @Martyr_Machine

      ...and don't even get me started on their civilians.

      But you bring up a good point. These days "defeating America" means going a couple rounds with the bumbers up and maintaining a pulse.

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  • I like that picture. I think it sums up the wars we're in. Frustrated old men barking out orders so that young men can fight their wars.

    Do any of us still think this BS is about terrorism?

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  • we'll be there another 4yrs....

    obama the biggest failure in american history....

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  • I've met Mr. Levin,

    He's actually a really good guy.

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  • Sorry, I didn't read the article,
    but I say,
    lets take out boots off their necks and let them slaughter each other in the name of the ISI sponsored /alla ahkbar stooges.


    Hey,
    we can still blame bushco for the agony of da-feet


    ;->


    git the popcorn
    Git-R-done.


    Anybody think that's NOT the future of Afghanistan ?

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