On July
7, 2012 Susanne Zeller-Hirzel, who is now 91 years of age, resurrected the
"White Rose" (Weiße Rose) along with 8 activists. It is well known
that the original White Rose was a resistance movement in Munich from 1942 to
1943 during the time of the Third Reich. On the campus of the University of
Munich the members of the group called for the overthrow of Hitler, and after
the battle for Stalingrad in 1943, called directly for resistance. Susanne
Zeller-Hirzel was a close friend of Sophie Scholl who was beheaded by the Nazis
on 22 February, 1943. Susanne Zeller escaped death managed to deceive the judge
and was released from prison after five months.
The
speaker in the video is Marc Doll, Federal Vice Chairman and founding member of
the party DIE FREIHEIT, a civil liberties party (Bürgerrechtspartei) in Germany
which advocates direct democracy. In the video Marc Doll addresses the thinking
behind the establishment of the new White Rose resistance.
The new
'White Rose' has two principal messages to convey:
1.
National-Socialism was a left-wing movement.
2. The
Nazis are back again, today they call themselves "Antifascists."
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By: kauan
In: Politics
Tags: Nazism, Fascism, Mass, Murderer, Adolf, Hitler, Socialism, Communism, Red, Antifascist, Antifa, Second, World, War, White, Rose, Dictatorship, Resistance, Movement
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National socialism was a leftist movement.
Then Hitler morphed Germany into a fascist, authoritarian government. (right wing)
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bycastanza128 (630.22) 
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@castanza128 Yep, and SS wore clothes of hippies with flowers in the hair in memory of their left wing history.
fascismo 1919.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bygoervideos (420.20) 
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@castanza128: So true, communist governments were NEVER known to be authoritarian (rolls eyes).
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2084.94) 
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@Moore Slayer Thought we were talking about national socialism....
You thought that meant communism?
They are the same thing?
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
-- Abraham Lincoln
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bycastanza128 (630.22) 
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ROFL you need to fix your social-media spambot. Its broken.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bykaisersouse (78.42) kaisersouse View Channel Send Message
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Well, both ends of the spectrum of politics ends up fascist.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByDukeBrazi (967.90) 
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@DukeBrazi They meet at the back end of the spectrum.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bymarc1921 (1478.96) 
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Fascism, communism, totalitarian, authoritarian, blah blah blah. The one thing they all have in common is overreaching government, something the American left seems to have been courting for quite some time now.
While I'm not accusing the left of being any or all of these things, they seem to be the ones headed in that direction. The American right has been drifting towards libertarian and independent ideals. I just call it as I see it.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByChumCannon (1484.92) 
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@ChumCannon The american right is heading toward libertarian and independent ideals by:
Banning abortion.
Shutting down medical marijuana.
Religion in schools.
Religion in politics.
Increasing military presence at home and abroad.
Using drones to spy on American citizens.
Indefinite detention of American citizens without charges, much less a fair trial.
Patriot act 1 & 2
War on drugs.
War on everybody that Israel doesn't like.
If you are calling it like you see it, I suggest glasses.
Bifoca More..
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bycastanza128 (630.22) 
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@castanza128 I see enough to know that the left wants the bigger government, but I don't know why the left gets so offended when they hear that, it's the truth.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByChumCannon (1484.92) 
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@ChumCannon The left makes the government bigger. I agree
That doesn't mean that the right is libertarian.
They make the government bigger too.
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bycastanza128 (630.22) 
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@castanza128 the right isn't libertarian, please read what I wrote. They are currently trending in that direction.
Also, thanks for replying if you disagree rather than just give a boring thumbs down.
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByChumCannon (1484.92) 
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@ChumCannon Some people that I have disagreed with just give me a thumb down automatically whenever they see my comment.
Mostly tribalists.
(fire37rescue and stonedpony are the only ones I can think of offhand)
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bycastanza128 (630.22) 
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So this clown believes the right is left and anti fascists are fascists!!!
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByBialetti (378.08) 
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@Bialetti
The clown sees the word "socialist" in the name National Socialist and thinks it's a left wing movement. I bet he's one of the dumber Americans that frequent here..
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bygrolt (86.34) grolt View Channel Send Message
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@grolt And almost all the poster of videos on national-socialism do not know the acronym is nazi (NAtionalsoZIalismus).
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bygoervideos (420.20) 
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Sept 1919 DAP and Hittler first contact (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei). right wing
1920 NSDAP (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei). right wing
1925 Mein Kampf, guess what ? pretty right wing
1933-1945 the nazi reign and NSDAP is the only authorised. right wing
-National-Socialism WAS NOT a left wing movement.
-Right wing IS NOT a nazi movement.
ps: after reading what the protagonists said (english, german, interviews), its all about ultra-nationalist and ultra-right wing way of thin More..
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bygoervideos (420.20) 
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@goervideos: Fascism is neither exclusively right nor left. It is a third vector, authoritarian in nature that is anti-Marxist, anti-communist, anti-capitalist, anti-conservative and anti-liberal. It's primary goal is to build a idealist, secular, social society. National Socialism wasn't conservative at all, in that Hitler's appeal to the past wasn't to "the good old days", but to a mythic history of the Germanic people. The Nazis were not trying to "preserve" anything - the More..
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2084.94) 
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@Moore Slayer Fascism is a way more complicated subject than nazism, and older (fascio roots).
I think, (we could write 1 book to describe it more precisely)the nazism is more about a military state, and fascim a counter reaction to an opposition.
Fascism came in the us in 1933 (silver movement) and fascism is clearly anti-liberal.
But we have a very different view in Europe about liberals/conservatives/left and right than usa, where the things look always a little black or right.
But i do not More..
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bygoervideos (420.20) 
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Hitler used the word socialism to garner support, as "socialism" was the popular lean after wwI. Hitler even wanted to drop the word "socialism" in nSdap but that plan was forgotten when more important things arouse (popularity of the NSDAP...) if you speak german and listened to any of hitlers 1920's speaches or read excerpts or audio, You would understand what he meant by 'socialism'.
Posted Aug-3-2012 Bywurstwurstwurst (68.48) 
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Strange how people draw their political spectrum with such convoluted lines.
The idea that right wing is somehow exclusively synonymous with authoritarianism when the communists were every bit as authoritarian as the Nazis is just dishonest.
It seems as though the heavy influence of TV and movies has created an entire generation of stupid people, doesn’t anyone READ anymore?
Fascism and Communism were in many ways similar but on some issues both economically and socially they differed, more More..
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2084.94) 
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@Moore Slayer "free market capitalism, individual rights, property rights, the right to protest, the right to a fair trial, no taxation without representation, freedom of religion, individual rights protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, the right to due process, etc."
ARE ALL RELATED TO LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENTS.
All of those things are generally NOT PRESENT in authoritarian, right wing governments.
Did you go to scho More..
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bycastanza128 (630.22) 
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@castanza128: I said constitutional conservative you moron. As for school, B.S. ChE UMass Lowell 92’ working on my MBA. What does a formal education have to do with understanding a linier political spectrum?
Liberal democratic governments? Sort of a vague term don’t you think? Ah you mean Socialist right? Well you’ve lost the plot son Socialism does not recognize the interest of the individual.
The United Kingdom is considered to be a Liberal Democracy but has government cameras on More..
Posted Aug-4-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2084.94) 
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@Moore Slayer I think you meant linear.
You claim you are educated....
I suggest a class on government/civics.
Even at high school level.
It would fix these misconceptions that you have.
http://www.markville.ss.yrdsb.edu.on.ca/history/civics/political_spectrum.htm
Stop getting your information from right wing media. They have convinced you that right wing = liberty.
Pretty fucked up....
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bycastanza128 (630.22) 
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The actions and rhetoric of the Nazis more paralells the ideas of the neo-cons than that of the liberals. So lets just say it since they keep bringing it up.
Radical right-wingers are neo-nazis.
You think you are the master race above muslims, mexicans, blacks and Chinese. You are for a theocratic totalitarian government where only your point of view is allowed. You are for a priviledged class who lords over the less fortunate (which is more like divine priviledge or serfdom).
But the More..
Posted Aug-4-2012 Bymabutoo (203.66) 
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@Vityazz
Exactly. The first people he went after and threw in the camps were labor leaders, unions, socialists and communists.
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@Tanngrisnir3 Don't forget the mentalists! They were his test-bed.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByCargeLock (2088.12) 
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@Tanngrisnir3: And Catholics and private business owners and....
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByMoore Slayer (2084.94) 
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@Vityazz Riiiight. Another way to say it is that no left-wing historian would refer to Nazism as leftist.
The only people who are confused about this, are childish leftists who don't know the differences between left and right. Conservative Totalitarian is an oxymoron. It's just not something you're ever going to be able to understand. You're brainwashed. Sorry buddy.
Posted Aug-3-2012 ByST0N3PONY (5225.32) 
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Nazi = National Socialist
Ipso facto, Nazis were left-wingers.
Case closed.
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@govett yep, class closed; you had to hear that very often.
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@govett
Please be far, far less fucking stupid.
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@Tanngrisnir3 No argument, just name-calling? I expected as much.
Posted Sep-26-2012 Bygovett (1012.40) govett View Channel Send Message
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Quote: "It is well known that the original White Rose was a resistance movement in Munich from 1942 to 1943 during the time of the Third Reich."
Erm, no actually: The 'original' White Rose was the symbol of the House Of York way way way back even before the 15th century in the War Of The Roses against the Red Rose House of Lancaster.
Pedantic, yes. Carry on...
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@CargeLock but now the White Rose is much more renown as the largest independent wholesale food distributor in New York City metropolitan area.
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