A video from a Stanford University student shows what is claimed to be former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice visiting a dorm on Monday for a reception with students. One student doggedly presses Rice about what he believes were the torture of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, which was caught on video and posted on YouTube.
"If you were there in a position of authority and watched Americans jump out of 80 story buildings because these murderous tyrants went after innocent people, then you were determined to do anything that you could, that was legal, to prevent that from happening," Rice said, referring to the September 11th terrorist attacks.
The student, who is standing just off camera, listened as the former Secretary of State and Stanford Provost explained her views.
"Foreign policy is full of tough choices, very tough choices," Rice said.
Three and a half minutes into the video, Rice's people try to move her along, but she insisted on continuing.
When the student noted that the United States did not torture during World War II, Rice responded, "With all due respect, Nazi Germany never attacked the homeland of the United States."
However, Japan, which was part of the Axis with Germany in World War II, did bomb Pearl Harbor killing more than 2,300 U.S. military and civilians. But Rice goes back to September 11th.
"Just a second," Rice said. "3,000 Americans died in the Twin Towers."
The student told Rice, "500,000 died in World War II and yet we did not torture, we did not torture the prisoners of war."
"And we did not torture anyone here either," Rice said.
The student then said, "We tortured them at Guantanamo Bay."
"No, no dear you're wrong," Rice responded. We did not torture anyone." Rice then points out that Guantanamo was named a model prison by the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe.
"If you didn't know that, maybe before you make allegations about Guantanamo, you should read," she said.
When specifically asked whether waterboarding is torture Rice said, "if it was authorized by the President, it did not violate our obligations under the Conventions Against Torture."
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