Rare BBC Video of Debate Over the Film The Life of Brian, Christians v John Cleese
Noted Christian Malcolm Muggeridge and Mervyn Stockwood (the then Bishop of Southwark). v John Cleese and Michael Plain over the Monty Python film The Life Of Brian in 1979. 4 parts.
UPDATE: Watch this video too for a brief look back at this debate from modern day by Cleese and Palin: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=160_1268692356
Added: Aug-17-2012 Occurred On: Nov-9-1979
By: gregsto
In: Other Entertainment, Religion
Tags: monty python, john cleese, life of brian, michael palin, Malcolm Muggeridge, Mervyn Stockwood
Location: United Kingdom (UK/GB) (load item map)
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By: gregsto
In: Other Entertainment, Religion
Tags: monty python, john cleese, life of brian, michael palin, Malcolm Muggeridge, Mervyn Stockwood
Location: United Kingdom (UK/GB) (load item map)
Marked as: approved
Views: 2209 | Comments: 60 | Votes: 5 | Favorites: 7 | Shared: 0 | Updates: 1 | Times used in channels: 3
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I got to the point of discussion about Socrates before my steam-valve blew.
The Barmy Bishop and Muddles Muggeridge obviously have zero idea about Socrates.
Socrates' entire life was based on asking awkward questions. The life of Brian is a classic Socratic ploy.
How can 'respected religious leaders' be so ignorant as to claim that this is equivalent to an attack on Socrates ?
I realise this is ages old, but FFS. The establishment guys rely only on some claimed tradition but actually have n More..
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByDEADBEEF (4146.96) 
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@DEADBEEF Yep, Socrates was a great football player,
he is considered one of the inventors of the moral and political philosophy.
R.I.P (dec 2011).
But more seriously, when you have as a disciple Plato that says it all ...
Reunite the art and science and "Know thyself" are immortal and universal.
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bygoervideos (377.60) 
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I'm waiting for someone to show the Muslims how Socrates would address Islam nowadays.
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bywarthog007 (270.84) 
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@DEADBEEF That is a really good point that I didn't even think of when listening to him talk about Socrates. I think Socrates would absolutely love Monty Python and their use of satire.
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByEpic_Beard_Man (412.60) Epic_Beard_Man View Channel Send Message
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Oh my, you mean to tell me I actually agree with gregsto on something? The Life Of Brian is one of my all time favorite movies!!!!
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bydirtbiker201 (1447.48) 
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@dirtbiker201 I have never been able to reconcile your avatar with the fact that I disagree with just about everything you say. Monty Python and the Holy Grail is one of my all time favorite films, with the scene immediately before your avatar's (the filthy peasant) being my favorite.
Moistened bink indeed.
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bygregsto (2452.68) 
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@gregsto This is my second time saying this as the first time my comment disintegrated when I sent it off. Didn't think we'd ever be on the same page, but damn good upload! (Sincerely)
(we may now exit Bizarro World and resume any and all snarky comments as it should be...
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByChalkOutlineGuy (333.90) 
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@ChalkOutlineGuy Wheeeeww...I thought I was gonna be stuck here forever like some bad acid trip!
Posted Aug-18-2012 Bygregsto (2452.68) 
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What an absolutely outstanding post!! Gregsto you've made my week!
Its amazing to see what they said back then about the movie clearly knwoing they had created a cult classic!
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByBillyBangcock (493.00) 
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I just can't believe that anyone is stupid enough to pick up Alice In Wonderland, and totally believe it as reality and then base their lives around it. Are people really that gullible?
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByCargeLock (1982.12) 
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Interesting debate in its entirety.
Just goes to show you, no matter how high a human's level of intellect can be, they still put faith in a book loosely written over 2000 years ago.
Man can be intelligent.. and stupid.. all at the same time.
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bythemadaxeman (30.40) 
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christians are low hanging fruit. we are under orders to love our enemies. our leader forgave the men who put Him to death,
wanna be a real hero?
make a satirical comedy about Mohammed.
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByYogsoggoth (811.90) Yogsoggoth View Channel Send Message
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oh look, Fatwa envy ..........again.
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByJibberJabber (247.50) 
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@Yogsoggoth south park has already done it.
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByPenguinister (478.20) 
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I don't think that satirizing Mohammed makes anyone a hero any more than this film makes Cleese and the rest of Monte Python heroes. Still, Muggeridge is absolutely correct in pointing out, even in the late 1970s or early 1980s that a similar film to Life of Brian satirizing Mohammed would raise all kinds of hackles that this film would not. What's even more remarkable is that Muggeridge is speaking here before Muslims were a significant population in Britain.
Comics and satiris More..
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bybuzzardist (362.74) 
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@Yogsoggoth Their audience was the west. That is where the fim would be most viewed and make money. In the 1970's people in the west did not know shit about Islam. Any movie satirizing it would be a box office flop. It would have been a ridiculously stupid choice I think.
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bygregsto (2452.68) 
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just because i find loving my enemies the absolutely most challanging aspect of my christian walk, doesn't mean i don't realize the absolute wisdom of it, nor that i secretly yearn to obliterate others, i simply wish people would pull their heads out of their spiritual asses, and get a freaking sense of discernment.
fatwa ain't what i'm about.
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I hate it when christians act like christianity is the basis of western civilization. As if the Greeks, Romans, Arabic mathematics (we use Arabic numerals after all...) etc. are not cornerstones of western civilization. Sure Christianity is an important piece of our history, I'm not saying it isn't. What I am saying is that Christianity is by no means the major influence of western civilization. It is just piece of what made us who we are today. And quite frankly I think it has held us back More..
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByEpic_Beard_Man (412.60) Epic_Beard_Man View Channel Send Message
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Nice post!
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bybuzzardist (362.74) 
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Great video. It's amazing to see that religious folks spoke the same language of delusion then as they do today.
Posted Aug-18-2012 ByPH-DEE (388.54) 
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I just wanna say, this comment section is awesome.
It was probably because BBC was in the title, but something filtered out most of the tards.
Posted Aug-18-2012 By86mang75 (266.50) 
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you know I saw this when i was a kid ...and I understood with great clarity this mocked the belivers not the christian faith becuase lets face it some of these people are truly just dumb fucks...palin and cleese are legends full stop
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByMR tommygun (457.50) 
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Fantastic find gregsto. I love these guys.
Going to have to watch Life Of Brian tonight!
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bysungam (1340.48) 
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good upload, i actually watched life of brian a few days ago, funny as hell. christians will get mad over anything
Posted Aug-17-2012 Bymaxwellthebest (757.80) 
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@maxwellthebest religious christians, not athiest/agnostic/intelligent christians like me
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByEMAG-K (518.12) EMAG-K View Channel Send Message
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@maxwellthebest well at least Christians don't run around killing people unlike muslims who go ballistic when someone mocks their pedo cult.
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByPenguinister (478.20) 
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@Penguinister Not NOW...but they sure have in the past, and could easily do so again.
Posted Aug-18-2012 Bygregsto (2452.68) 
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I know this happened a long time ago,but even so-if religion is so strong why feel threatened by a comedy?
Posted Aug-17-2012 ByZeb (631.60) 
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