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Man charged over viral baby-swinging video - Biggles9

Finally getting some press for biggles9's plight. Front page of the online site of Sydney Morning Herald.


Asher Moses
December 8, 2008 - 12:12PM

A Queensland man has been charged for re-publishing on a video-sharing site a viral video of a man swinging a baby around like a rag doll.

The controversial three-minute video had already been published widely across the internet and shown on American TV news shows. The clip can still be found online today.


Chris Illingworth, 60, a father of four from Maroochydore, thought he would share it with fellow users of Liveleak, a site similar to YouTube but focused on news and current events. In two years, he has uploaded hundreds of videos to Liveleak.

His home was raided on Sunday, November 30, by Queensland Police from Task Force Argos, which specialises in combating child pornography and child groomers.

He was charged with using the internet to access and publish child-abuse material and is scheduled to appear in court in Maroochydore on December 18.

It is understood that he had no involvement in the creation of the video, which cannot be published on this website for legal reasons.


The baby is laughing and smiling at the end of the clip, but the video has attracted criticism from child-welfare advocates because of how vigorously the man swings the baby by its arms.

In a phone interview, Illingworth described the clip as a "common interest story" and rejected any suggestions he was a child abuser or interested in such material.

He said that since being charged he could not eat, sleep or work and was worried his children and people in the local community would think he was a pedophile.


"I've had to go down to the hospital, my blood pressure is 160/108 and I'm on blood pressure pills and valium - all because of this," he said.

"Do they realise what pain they put someone through? I could fall over dead over this. I can't even get the office work done. I'm just a zombie."

Queensland Police confirmed the charges but refused to comment, saying it would be inappropriate as the matter was before the courts.

Illingworth said his life changed the moment two officers - a detective chief inspector and a detective chief constable - banged on his door and demanded they search his house.

"I went to turn on the laptop and they got stinking mad, as if I was trying to delete something I guess, and I was just trying to be helpful," he said.

The officers plugged a small black box into his computer and proceeded for an hour and a half to analyse the contents of his hard drive in a search for child pornography.

Illingworth said the officers insisted on visiting his office at a mechanic workshop to examine his computer there. They found nothing, Illingworth said.

Before being taken to the police station, Illingworth was allowed to make one call, which he used to phone the owner of Liveleak in Britain to ask that the video be removed.

He was advised to get a lawyer but declined as he was unable to find one on a Sunday afternoon, he said.

At Maroochydore police station, Illingworth was interviewed without a lawyer. He was forced to provide fingerprints, a DNA sample and a mug-shot photograph.

"They wouldn't let me go to the toilet without them coming with me - I couldn't go anywhere without someone following me," he said.

The officers explained to Illingworth that they traced him using his IP address after someone in Britain reported the video clip to police. Interpol had found the clip was originally uploaded to a Russian website.

"It's going to ruin my f---ing life and everything. I'm 60 years old and what did I do wrong?" Illingworth said.

"I didn't make it, I didn't play with a baby, I just uploaded it [the video clip]. It's nothing sexual or anything else - just a smiling baby."

Liveleak owner Hayden Hewitt has published a video on the site defending Illingworth and calling on members to help publicise the incident and "fight injustice".

"Clearly the behaviour in the video is reckless, but I couldn't say it's abuse," he said.

Colin Jacobs, vice-chairman of the online users' rights lobby group Electronic Frontiers Australia, said public anxiety around the depiction of children seemed to have spiked in recent times, fuelled by politicians and anti-child-abuse campaigners.

"It's now reached the point where any parent would have to think twice about posting a photo of their children to a photo-sharing website," he said.

"Cases like this seem to indicate that we've gone beyond the point of the sensible and entered into hysteria territory."


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  • It is really strange, I hadn't seen the video on LiveLeak until it was mentioned on the news here in the U.S. I heard that the video was on LiveLeak, talked about by the news here, indicating that it was on LiveLeak, that LiveLeak had posted in the description asking for information about the video, who it was, etc. It wasn't until I saw the news report did I even notice or take the time to view the video. Yet, Biggles, who was just sharing the video and had asked for the same kind of informa More..

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    • -"Next it will be illegal to watch a video with a kid in it, an age check before you watch the Disney Channel is coming up next?"-

      It is more insane than that. In Australia a Simpson cartoon comic is child-porn! It is so ridiculous to be convicted for having a COMIC character porn on your computer! How insane and unreal is that?

      I am starting to lose my respect for Australia, the Aussies are a big joke! "down under" is going down...

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific More..

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    • Comment of user 'MarshallLucky' has been deleted by moderator!
    • In all honesty, that one's a lot less clear cut than biggles' case. It could be very well argued that cartoons of children having sex and incest leans towards child porn, as it was in court.

      But regardless, It wouldn't surprise me if both of these cases were witch hunts to attempt to justify the Government's push to censure the internet.

      Posted Dec-8-2008 By 

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    • Whoa Bobs, I agree with you for a change ;) Let's try and help Biggles out.

      BTW, haven't seen you in chat recently, everything ok?

      Posted Dec-9-2008 By 

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  • Well damn...it's gonna be a payday for Biggles9, as it should be! Good Lord, I'm as conservative as it gets and I couldn't find anything wrong with Biggles9 posting this.

    Good Luck Biggles, looks like the LiveLeak community made a difference!

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    • I'd be surprised if Biggles9 walks away from this scot-free...seems like these guys are pretty serious...he might get one or two counts dropped but they'll make one of them stick...but you never know...police these days and the courts aren't very forgiving like they used to be, this is money for them and when it comes to money, they want it and need it to keep their jobs...it's revenue for the city...

      When it comes to censorship, I'm against any and all censorship and if you are against the a More..

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  • Free Biggles!!!

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  • <i>He said that since being charged he could not eat, sleep or work and was worried his children and people in the local community would think he was a pedophile.


    "I've had to go down to the hospital, my blood pressure is 160/108 and I'm on blood pressure pills and valium - all because of this," he said.

    "Do they realise what pain they put someone through? I could fall over dead over this. I can't even get the office work done. I'm just a zombie."</i>
    === More..

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    • And also sent physical mail to news organizations (organsations to you non-Americans;)) Hit hard and make a point people!
      Biggles, good luck bro, and hang in there!

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  • Comment of user 'Nazirael' has been deleted by moderator!
  • Good gravy! Are the police going after the person that originally shot the footage and the person that swung the baby? Why make Biggles the patsy? I don't know the whole story so I'm basing my comments on what I do know. If the police can track Biggles by his I.P, can't they track the IP from the source where Biggles found the video? If they kept going so on and so forth, they would eventually find the person that should be punished which is the person that originally did it. I don't understand More..

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  • I'm hoping this goes away and biggles' people see it for the travesty it is.
    Inspectors on a Sunday? That doesn't happen here unless one is caught in the act of committing a crime. They are trying to make an example of biggles and that just plain sucks.

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  • Comment of user 'iBreakThings' has been deleted by moderator!
    • No shit!

      Free biggles9!

      Posted Dec-8-2008 By 

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    • Yes,exactly.
      This is a travesty of what the law should provide in, safety for us, en beeing critical and exact in their research.

      This is some hype in Australia at the it seems and paranoia has got the better of the law enforcement there it seems.

      Australia, isn"t ther someone amongst you who can wake up this matter in any way?

      Oke Biggles will get his time in court, and i expect all to be well (or else it wound be completly insane)

      But eventhough... Its to long, until then he More..

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  • Mods, please feature this so it doesn't get buried right away.

    Biggles, hang in there, mate!

    Posted Dec-8-2008 By 

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  • Clear Biggles!!

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  • Again i mailed RTL telvision news hoping they get interested, the profile is high enough to make it an item now i hope, and te concrete info in this topic maybe shakes them up a little.

    Added a shtload of links so they wil have easy work.

    We should not let go now,this is a matter of principles.

    Darn, think about the shit he has to endure now, adress and all on the net, he has wife and kids, this could potentially destroy his life, we have to support him - Not only last week and today, b More..

    Posted Dec-8-2008 By 

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    • Another good point... it's a shame that they publicized his name and age in the news report.. Now he will have many local people demonizing him too (that have no idea WTF is going on)... That's a number 1 no no.. Never give out personal info on the net... (hopefully he will get some people to back him from his local/general population)..

      Posted Dec-9-2008 By 

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  • biggles, I am truly saddened by the fiasco you're caught up in. It's ridiculous. Take care of yourself.

    You have my support!!!!

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  • Now we all know who he is and where he lives and what he looks like, nice of them.
    Notice how court will be on the 18th?
    If they temporarily put him in jail he will most likely stay there till after the holidays.
    Here they like to jail people for bullcrap on Fridays so we stay in till after Monday then get let go otherwise we would have gotten out the next day or so.

    Good luck man,
    hopefully they will just give you the generic speech and then let you go.

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  • I hope Biggles sues the crap out of everyone involved..and I hope other socialist countries take notice.

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  • This would have to rate as one of the dumbest over-reactions to the Internet and child abuse ever! This guy has done NOTHING WRONG!! The ever parochial Queensland Police have stuffed up badly! Talk about a total cock-up! Bravo, well done!!

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