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Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street: What's going on in the United States?
 Part of channel(s): Occupy Wall Street (current event)

Legally oriented people may call it a Constructional Crisis, sociologists may call it Lack of Social Contract, or Social Disintegration. Regardless of the name, the discontent is widespread and real, and it originates in the oppression of the People, both economically and physically.

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It is not only the Tea Party and the OWS.

A more comprehensive list would include, but not be limited to:

* Second amendment advocates

* Fourth Amendment advocates

* Anti war protesters

* Birthers

* Tea Party

* OWS

* Sovereign People

* Freemen

* Gold coin issuers

* De Jure Grand Juries

* "Common Law" advocates

* Editors of the July 4, 2011 Time Magazine

* The majority of US voters, who do not vote

* Bloggers, discussion groups and other internet communities of various shades
* Conspiracy theorists at large...


All these groups, and many more, appear to share the notions that:

* Over the past decade, or longer, US governments of both parties have been committing crimes against the People of the US and against People elsewhere.

* Corporate media are not to be trusted as a primary source of information regarding conditions in the United States.

* Corporate interests (banking, military industrial complex, others) have gained unreasonable power.

* The US political system is dysfunctional

* The US Constitution and the Human, Constitutional and Civil Rights of the People, which were "guaranteed" in it, were and are disregarded.
Legally oriented people may call it a Constructional Crisis, sociologists may call it Lack of Social Contract, or Social Disintegration. Regardless of the name, the discontent is widespread and real, and it originates in the oppression of the People, both economically and physically.

Deeper understanding of the situation, its causes and possible remedies, e.g., the looting of the People by the banks, requires high level of education and access to information that the public at large may not be privy to (e.g. - because of corporate/media/government cover up). Therefore, many of these groups many appear illogical, inarticulate, or counterproductive.

However, the outrage is there, and if it continues to swell, it may lead to unprecedented social and political changes in the US (not necessarily for the better).

That is part of the nature of revolutions:

* The direct cause of the French revolution, according to some historians, was the salt tax. In popular culture it is "let them eat cakes". Regardless, the situation got out of control, and ended up with heads rolling...
* Both the French and Russian revolutions went through phases that were arguably worse than the regimes that caused them.

Revolutions are uncontrollable, violent and destructive processes. The whole notion of constitutional republic was meant to make them unnecessary. Unfortunately, once social conditions get to the point, where a particular group has managed to grab power to the point of being able to seriously abuse the rest of the People, it is difficult to convince such group to yield power peacefully. The "1%" feels fully entitled, while Jefferson, Franklin, Madison and their friends are rolling in their graves.

JZ

At 06:18 AM 10/25/2011, you wrote:
W:

Thanks for sending both the Tea Party and 2012 Obama e-mails. Informative. Interesting contrast. The country seems to be growing more and more divergent. Especially after reading your e-mail below, which I am still digesting and contemplating, and will reply.

Re your statement about what JZ thinks OWS is, and what OWS wants, I am also interested in what he says. Let's hear JZ.

You did not reply re the remainder of my e-mail, in your e-mail below. You may not have seen it, as it was at then end of my e-mail, after the comments to the article Occupy LA. Check it out and reply. G.___
Joseph Zernik, PhD

Human Rights Alert (NGO)



The 2010 submission of Human Rights Alert to the Human Rights Council (HRC) of the United Nations was reviewed by the HRC professional staff and incorporated in the official HRC Professional Staff Report with a note referring to "corruption of the courts and the legal profession and discrimination by law enforcement in California."

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WHAT DID THE EXPERT SAY ABOUT THE CURRENT FINANCIAL CRISIS?

* Foreclosure fraud: The homeowner nightmares continue

CNN (April 7, 2011)

* About 3 million homes have been repossessed since the housing boom ended in 2006� That number could balloon to about 6 million by 2013

Bloomberg (January 2011)

* [size=3" color="#FF0000]"...a system in which only the little people have to obey the law, while the rich, and bankers especially, can cheat and defraud without consequences."[/size]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/50753639/

Prof Paul Krugman, MIT (2011)

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WHAT DID THE EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY, CALIFORNIA?

* "...judges tried and sentenced a staggering number of people for crimes they did not commit."

Prof David Burcham, Dean, Loyola Law School, LA (2001)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29043589/

* "This is conduct associated with the most repressive dictators and police states... and judges must share responsibility when innocent people are convicted."

Prof Erwin Chemerinsky, Dean, Irvine Law School (2001)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/27433920/

* "Innocent people remain in prison"

* "...the LA Superior Court and the DA office, the two other parts of the justice system that the Blue Panel Report recommends must be investigated relative to the integrity of the system, have not produced any response that we know of..."

LAPD Blue Ribbon Review Panel Report (2006)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24902306/

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WHAT DID THE EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA?

* "...corruption of the courts and the legal profession and discrimination by law enforcement in California."

United Nations Human Rights Council Staff Report (2010)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38566837/

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WHAT DID THE EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE STATE COURTS IN THE UNITED STATES?

* "On July 26, 2010, Laurence Tribe, Senior Counsel for the United States Department of Justice, Access to Justice Initiative, delivered an important speech to the Conference of Chief Justices, challenging them to halt the disintegration of our state justice systems before they become indistinguishable from courts of third world nations."

Prof Laurence Tribe, Harvard Law School (2010), per National Defender Leadership Institute (2010)

http://www.nlada.net/library/article/national_dojspeechto%20chiefjustice07-26-2010_gideonalert

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WHAT DID THE EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES?

* "More than 100 law professors have signed on to a letter released today that proposes congressional hearings and legislation aimed at fashioning "mandatory and enforceable" ethics rules for Supreme Court justices for the first time. The effort, coordinated by the liberal Alliance for Justice, was triggered by "recent media reports," the letter said, apparently referring to stories of meetings and other potential conflicts of interest involving Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas among others."

More than 100 law professors, as reported by the Blog of the Legal Times (February 2011)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/49586436/

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WHAT DID CHIEF JUDGE OF THE US COURT OF APPEALS, 5TH CIRCUIT, SAY ABOUT THE US JUSTICE SYSTEM?

* [size=2" color="#FF0000]"The American legal system has been corrupted almost beyond recognition..."[/size]

Chief Judge, US Court of Appeals, 5th Circuit, Edith Jones, speaking before the Federalist Society of Harvard Law School (February 2003)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/50137887/

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WHAT DID THE CHAIR OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SAY ABOUT THE US JUSTICE SYSTEM?

* In a speech in Georgetown University, Senator Leahy, Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee called for a "Truth and Reconciliation Commission" on the US Department of Justice.

Transcript of Senator Leahy speech (2009)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/38472251/


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  • King Obama is the root cause of this socialist,not social, uprising of a few people. He ran on bringing people together and from the word go, he started DEVIDING the people by his class warfare bullshit! Obama is responsible and will be held accountable. Hopefulyy he will be arrested for treason and get a chance to meet Sadaam and Mohamar shortly thereafter. I in no way support violence towards Obama and do not wish him ill will.I only hope when the good Lord takes him he gets a chance to meet i More..

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  • It's been brewing awhile. People got a little more ticked when the Hope and Change guy turned out to be anything but.

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  • Looking at the names of these groups shows how divided people are now..

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  • Maybe the dumbfuck forelock tugging idiots on LL can see now who are the 99%?
    It's YOU

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