http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/03/when-the-fukushima-meltdown-hits-groundwater/
By Dr. Tom Burnett
Fukushima is going to dwarf Chenobyl. The Japanese government has had a level 7 nuclear disaster going for almost a week but won’t admit it.
The disaster is occurring the opposite way than Chernobyl, which exploded and stopped the reaction. At Fukushima, the reactions are getting worse. I suspect three nuclear piles are in meltdown and we will probably get some of it.
If reactor 3 is in meltdown, the concrete under the containment looks like lava. But Fukushima is not far off the water table. When that molten mass of self-sustaining nuclear material gets to the water table it won’t simply cool down. It will explode – not a nuclear explosion, but probably enough to involve the rest of the reactors and fuel rods at the facility.
Pouring concrete on a critical reactor makes no sense – it will simply explode and release more radioactive particulate matter. The concrete will melt and the problem will get worse. Chernobyl was different – a critical reactor exploded and stopped the reaction. At Fukushima, the reactor cores are still melting down. The ONLY way to stop that is to detonate a ~10 kiloton fission device inside each reactor containment vessel and hope to vaporize the cores. That’s probably a bad solution.
A nuclear meltdown is a self-sustaining reaction. Nothing can stop it except stopping the reaction. And that would require a nuclear weapon. In fact, it would require one in each containment vessel to merely stop what is going on now. But it will be messy.
Fukushima was waiting to happen because of the placement of the emergency generators. If they had not all failed at once by being inundated by a tsunami, Fukushima would not have happened as it did – although it WOULD still have been a nuclear disaster. Every containment in the world is built to withstand a Magnitude 6.9 earthquake; the Japanese chose to ignore the fact that a similar earthquake had hit that same general area in 1896.
Anyway, here is the information that the US doesn’t seem to want released. And here is a chart that might help with perspective.
Making matters worse is the MOX in reactor 3. MOX is the street name for ‘mixed oxide fuel‘ which uses ~9% plutonium along with a uranium compound to fuel reactors. This is why it can be used.
The problem is that you don’t want to play with this stuff. A nuclear reactor means bring fissile material to a point at which it is hot enough to boil water (in a light-water reactor) and not enough to melt and go supercritical (China syndrome or a Chernobyl incident). You simply cannot let it get away from you because if it does, you can’t stop it.
The Japanese are still talking about days or weeks to clean this up. That’s not true. They cannot clean it up. And no one will live in that area again for dozens or maybe hundreds of years.
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Those fifty guys that volunteered must have had a last long night with their families. To know in the morning you are probably seeing your families for the last time your healthy. The did it for their country and all of us. I hope their sacrifices are well remembered. Brave Souls.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bybuttkracken (659.98) buttkracken View Channel Send Message
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They did not volunteer. In fact, one of the Japanese minster threaten to punish all those who did not go into the plant as ordered.
FYI, those WWII Japanese kamikaze pilots did not volunteered either.
Posted Mar-30-2011 Bysok8888 (704.34) 
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They are going to get bone marrow transplants for a bonus this year.
Posted Mar-30-2011 Bybuttkracken (659.98) buttkracken View Channel Send Message
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All seems a little strange that they built them where they are.. its not like ANYONE did not know of the high risks involved.. i could write an essay about what i think .. anyway good luck to Japan .. and god bless us all !
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bybandit1200 (2104.86) 
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I was looking through old comments and replies tonight...We all saw this coming, ...well...some of us. Locking this situation down is a near impossibility, long term radiation(60,000 years is the half life of some of the isotopes "released")...the area is FUCKED!...I hear the firm operating? the plant is offering $5000 a day....work for a Month and your rockin.....a box.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bymytwocents (2365.86) 
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make the big wigs who made money off it clean it up for free.well and a box
Posted Mar-29-2011 Byhilljack998 (474.16) 
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I'm not sure that it's savable.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bywhiterabbit1 (2162.36) 
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I can guarantee you that only the kamikaze need apply
I'm not a moon bat or illuminati freakazoid....but I have firm beliefs about the safety of nuclear power. You will not be told about the REAL DANGER, because "they", either choose to hide the grim truth, or they choose to hide the grim truth.........people, sadly, do not! have a grip on this awesome power like we think we do.........60'000 years.....future folk(if there are any) will frown upon us.
now quit being obtuse and More..
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bymytwocents (2365.86) 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZR0UKxNPh8
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bypcoltrain (106.72) pcoltrain View Channel Send Message
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While I may be extremely pro nuke I must admit I was always sxpecting japan to totaly fubar up. Old plant designs operated and built .. corruptly.. and a general lack of proper paranoia of the masses in japan. Combine with a total lack of blabbyness amoung workers to get you this result.
At this point we can hope at least the radiation doesnt get high enough in the air to get too much too far.. but I have a feeling america is about to get 175 million new residents fairly soon...
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bywintermane (22.60) wintermane View Channel Send Message
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Yeah, and this time we can put them in concentration camps legally. lol
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bywhiterabbit1 (2162.36) 
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I'd rather open that border than our southern border, oh wait isn't that already open. Seems like it.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bylinecrosser (157.68) 
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Did you know that one of the problems of nuclear energy is the available of uranium?
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bywhiterabbit1 (2162.36) 
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Nuclear Power should be defined as an interim power source and our main focus should be on clean alternatives.
Posted Mar-29-2011 ByZardoz003 (1572.32) 
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The reactors don't have to melt down to have a disaster. They are already telling people in Tokyo not to let young children to drink tap water because of radiation levels are unsafe. How you decontaminate hundreds of miles of water pipes is beyond me. These reactors are leaking into the ocean and the seafood won't be edible for a long time.
The only positive thing to come out of this mess is that BP hasn't showed up to finish off the rest of Japan.
Kidding aside, the Japanese Government will o More..
Posted Mar-30-2011 Bybuttkracken (659.98) buttkracken View Channel Send Message
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Am i reading this right? Chernobyl put itself out by it's own explosion; Fukushima probably wont explode and probably wont put itself out; It would probably take a giant nuke type explosion to blow all four reactors out..... wonder if our buddies to the South would help them out with that.
Posted Mar-30-2011 ByCarcslarther (24.20) 
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lol I was thinking "Mexico?" until I saw your flag
Posted Mar-30-2011 ByDude420 (167.02) 
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I could be wrong. But my understanding is you need a certain "critical mass" to sustain the reaction. ( A sufficient number of neutrons bombarding atomic nucleii in order to make them split) Once the fuel starts melting, it eventually spreads out or separates so that the critical mass no longer exists, and the reaction cannot continue. But in theory, I suppose it's *possible* for a critical mass to reach the water table.
Posted Mar-29-2011 ByIntellectual (754.24) Intellectual View Channel Send Message
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To tell you the truth this stuff is so complicated that I have to rely on experts rather than get a degree in nuclear science.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bywhiterabbit1 (2162.36) 
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Already very low levels found in Scotland.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bydrivenwell2 (575.72) drivenwell2 View Channel Send Message
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fucking nightmare.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bymako31 (197.36) mako31 View Channel Send Message
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holy shit.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Byrunswithscissors (35.48) runswithscissors View Channel Send Message
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Japan just got alot smaller.
Posted Mar-29-2011 Byquicksilver462 (151.48) 
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I figured if you guys are into this topic you would like the link I provided.
Posted Mar-30-2011 Bypcoltrain (106.72) pcoltrain View Channel Send Message
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Dude, into trying to figure out what's happening at the Fukisucki power plant. I'm sure that this is interesting but unless it directly applies to the fukisucki power plant I don't have the time right now.
Posted Mar-30-2011 Bywhiterabbit1 (2162.36) 
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It does apply. As possibly a preventable mistake. I live in northern california so as Fukushima melts down and my family and I have already recieved close to 1/10 of a chest x-ray just by living where I live. Someone has to wake these fuckers up and tell the dumb dogs to stop digging in that hole and point them in the right direction. Sigh, I cannot imagine how those poor souls in Japan feel.
Posted Apr-1-2011 Bypcoltrain (106.72) pcoltrain View Channel Send Message
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What ever happens in Japan will effect the US. Now there is radiation detected in milk in Washington State. This is going to be a long term global problem, not just a Japanese problem.
Posted Mar-30-2011 Bybuttkracken (659.98) buttkracken View Channel Send Message
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Thread HI-JAC!!! DON'T FUCKING MOVE!!
I tried to get into the forums to ask some questions....sign up says...my user name is already in use, DUH....do I need a new user name??
awesome vid.....whatever it was
vote
Posted Mar-29-2011 Bymytwocents (2365.86) 
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Here is an example of the us gov being asleep at the wheel.
Finally.
.US sending robots to Japan to help nuclear plant
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110330/ap_on_bi_ge/us_us_japan_nuclear
They probably will send them by ship.lol
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