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Krauthammer on CIA Torture Debate:
"Cheney is winning on this because it's intuitively and empirically obvious that the techniques have worked and saved many American lives."

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  • This from a man that advocated attacking Iran even before 9/11.

    None the less - I think that they probably did indeed get information they would otherwise not have been told with "enhanced interrogation".

    That's not going to make any difference to Eric Holder.

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  • Liberals wouldn't even allow tickling as a form of interrogation if it saved American lives. Creating a terrorist bill of rights and making sure they have resort-like accommodations is priority #1 for the libs. They think that being nice to terrorists will make them like us and stop trying to attack our country. I know this makes no sense to normal people, but when you're an overly sensitive vagina, you do stupid shit.

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    • Simply not true ...even Tom Ridge called "waterboarding" torture...and it is...and always has been. It doesn't matter if it works...or we'd be waterboarding murder suspects (which they actually did in Texas while GWB was the Gov...and strangely enough...the prosecuted and won against a Sheriff and two Deputies).

      It is what it is...cutting off someone's fingers...won't kill them or cause massive organ failure (John Yoo's words not mine)...but if you get the info...it was effective...an More..

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    • Last time I checked, terrorists will torture and brutally murder every American they can get their hands on. I see no problem with fighting fire with fire.

      Torture DOES work. This idiotic liberal notion that torture and interrogation doesn't work is just another example of how liberals are totally out of touch with reality.

      If you don't have the sack to handle reality, step aside and STFU. I'm tired of seeing so many sissy vaginas cry about terrorists getting waterboarded. It isn't a big deal. More..

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    • How many American Servicemen have you seen "brutally tortured" on THEIR videos?? NONE...It's a fantasy...it's a lie...Servicement are not in that position...and remember...and Conservatives forget...how many HUNDREDS of INNOCENT AFGHANS and ARABS were released from "Club Gitmo" that DID NOTHING...but be victims of local politics and prejudice in Afghanistan...THEY WERE TREATED AS IF THEY WERE TERRORIST!!


      What do YOU shameful Americans DO...when you torture someone and they More..

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    • Your response confirms that your are an oversensitive vagina. It also confirms you are a terrorist sympathizer. Soldiers never tortured? Al Qaeda doesn't torture? How stupid do you think we are? You must be smoking crack out of your hadji pipe if you think anyone here is stupid enough to believe that. Keep supporting your terrorist buddies, Mohammed. I can't wait until the next LL video showing your friends get shredded into pieces when the try and attack innocent Iraq/Afghan civilians.

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    • Soldiers NEVER tortured is CORRECT...they were killed out right...please DO cite one place where soldiers were tortured (videotaped) and that tape posted to the internet...you're a moron...they killed them outright because they knew they couldn't hold them...

      And AQ DOES torture...they've just never TORTURED American soldiers...so NEXT FANTASY...NEXT LIE???

      And try to remember you racist Muslim hating poon boy...that I'm an American...I'm a Vet (fought for your Mom and Dad)...my Son and Daugh More..

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  • Waterboarding makes them feel like they are drowning, that has to be uncomfortable. Also they deprive them of sleep. How horrible! Speaking of uncomfortable, I wonder how uncomfortable it was to be trapped on the top few floors of the world trade centers as they were burning? I wonder if any of the familys of the 3000 people that didn't come home from work or get off their flight that day are having any sleep deprivation?

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    • - (documentary) "Taxi to the Dark Side"
      'On Dec. 5, 2002, the young Afghani taxi driver gave a ride to four men. Afghani forces stopped the car at a roadblock, detained Dilawar and his passengers and turned them over to the Americans, citing suspicious material they claim to have found in the trunk.

      They were taken to a hellhole called Bagram prison. Dilawar, who U.S. command later determined was innocent of any crime or intent, was hooded, handcuffed, chained to the ceiling, and beat More..

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  • thank God he is winning because the libs will not win their fight to destroy America

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  • You Republicans are on board with Satan's agenda. OK, I don't believe in Satan, but most of you do.

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    • If I can play devils advocate...

      It's said Satan cannot fart without Gods say-so.

      Also, one has to consider who's supposed to have created hell to begin with? God, of course. So eternal torture is justice by that definition.

      If you believe in absurdity it doens't take much to convince you of atrocity.

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    • Actuall that's not correct...that is the attraction TO Satan...GOD DOESN'T CONTROL HIM...and he can do what he want's...even in the Bible...he's called the Prince of this World.

      He get's to play here because there IS choice. Perhaps you should go talk more to your Sunday School teacher and have her clear this point up to you...the "struggle" is "the struggle" but the OUTCOME (only) is predetermined.

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    • I didn't say God controled Satan's actions, like a puppet. I'm more inclined to beleive the superstition reads God never looses control of satan, like a dog on a leash.

      In other words,God allows satan to test His children=always limits satans power /go too far

      READ JOB.

      IE: "He get's to..." implies an allowance of freedoms... "but the OUTCOME is predetermined." means the game is rigged anyway.

      Predetermined...free choice?

      Enjoy your mythical logic circle, pal. More..

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    • ....the "struggle" is "the struggle....

      ROFL.

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    • You're damned out of your own mouth young person....don't try and pretend that YOU (after quoting scripture AFTER THE FACT") ...you remember...all those words you spoke AFTER YOU said;

      "It's said Satan cannot fart without Gods say-so. "

      SO please DO...please DO...quote Chapter and Verse...from the BIBLE ...YOUR BOOK FROM GOD...the B-I-B-L-E....I want to read those WORDS FROM GOD about SATAN as QUOTED BY YOU.... WHERE I can read that WORD OF GOD...I'm all about that...show ME an More..

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  • "winning?" keep telling yourself that, there is no race, and if there were, there is no system of measurement, and if there were, dont you think it wouldbe logical to "judge" the "winner" after something, anything , has happened.


    you might as well have made a post titled "the emperor is NOT naked!"

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  • Just another day of reminders that left of America is the biggest disgrace we've ever seen. I'd love to see a lib deal with one of their family members being held hostage in Iraq. That Army Field Manual would be so damn out the window its not even funny. Way to politicize torture just like the Iraq war that you all suddenly stopped talking about after Hussein's inaguration. Fuking joke. The beating coming your way in 2010 WILL BE ALL.

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    • If a liberal's family member was murdered in Iraq, they would probably blame it all on George Bush and call for his execution. They would probably say they don't blame anything on the intolerant jihadi terrorist that killed them too. Ohh wait, this has already happened... Cindy Sheehan & Michael Berg (Nick Berg's father).

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    • :-) good luck... Hate propaganda will not help you win. You racists are poutnumbered and there is no way backj to your sick sub-culture of hatred, false wars and treason.

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  • Krauthammer is the man. This dude cuts through the liberal bullshit like a wrecking ball on a soft stick of butter. I love his point of view and not one lib has ever even tried to counter the man. He looks like the Grinch but he can bring the wood when it comes to international policy debates.

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  • Let's take a quiz.
    If you find a tumor on your nuts...oops, nevermind, some of you have no nuts.
    Ok, lets say you find a tumor growing on your arm. Do you.

    A. Let it grow and ravage your entire body and eventually kill you.
    B. Talk to the tumor and reason with it in hopes that it will not do what cancer always does.
    C. FUCKING NUKE IT WITH RADIATION UNTIL IT IS NO MORE.

    Take your time and pick the answer that best suits you.

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  • So when dealing with other political issues like Health care or Cap and trade. Should we just permit the government to do whatever they feel may be "effective" - Or should we not focus on the level of effectiveness of the proposed government solution and instead focus on the legality.

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  • That is one ugly dude. His face doesnt move is it botox?

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  • So, if it did work... where the F! is Osama?

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  • yeah, well almost ALL of the "information" they garnered from torture turned out to be false... and cost nothinh but time for the CIA as they chased false leads. Read the reports.

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  • For all the Krauthhammer fans...let's DO remeber (because ASSOCIATIONS and WHO you WORK FOR MATTERS)...that he WORKED for Carter and was Mondales SPEECH WRITTER!!!

    Sweet God...how does he distance himself from THAT...a BAD preacher...is one thing...actually WORKING FOR SOMEONE...something even worse!

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  • Krauthammer is not only the ugliest commentator on television, but also qualifies as the commentator with the worst dye job.

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    • Good one, picking on a paraplegic

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    • So I guess because of his diving accident, all is forgiven? I was being facetious of course, but to clarify: beyond his good looks and gloriously natural hair color, he is a pedantic, arrogant, intolerant man whose conservative mantra is sounding more and more like a broken record.

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  • It's simple-

    You strap them down to a chair and grab a meat slicer.

    Ask a question, if they wont answer, they loose a millimeter from somewhere.

    When they start talking (and they will) verify the info.

    If they were lying, they loose another millimeter.

    "But what will they eat and drink?"

    They drink water, they eat the millimeter.

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  • But in the end...the most meaningful and salient response to MarkusMarone has been this unanswered missive that cuts to the hearts of Conservatives...who in the end...are ALL ABOUT taking responsibility;

    "The liberals are to blame for your problems, that's for damn sure. They've cunningly plotted to wreck any chance of your wealth, health, happiness and self-fulfillment.
    To take one example, one area of your life and self: the only reason your tireless efforts in identifying and developin More..

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    • LMAO at this bumbling retard waging e-jihad on LL. Go back to buttfucking your camel you loser.

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    • He owned your ass you just lack the ability to read and comprehend...everyone that I've sent this to thinks that you're as much of a DF as your post make you out to be...a nonserving...talking out his ass...as if he knows something tard boy...PLEASE...DO KEEP POSTING...TORTURE IS GOOD (if done by Americans...BUT...if it happens to an American soldier...WAR CRIME)...LOL!!! You're so totally clueless!

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  • winning what?

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    • The propaganda war?
      Mission accomplished!

      This criminal needs to be prosecuted on so many levels, convicted and hopefully spend the rest of his miserable life in prison.

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  • You'd think 40 billion dollars a year on defense is what's kept us safe from "terrorism" not Dick Cheney's ok'ing of torture..I'd rather have a team of assassins going after terrorists than our whole military inside the Middle East but that's not the objective really.

    We're taking over and this little torture issue is just a bump in the road that I'm sure Cheney can get around.

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  • Effectiveness and legality are two seperate arguments.

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  • maybe some of you should be against all terrorism, no matter who commits it, and the murdering of innocents no matter what country those innocents are from

    our citizens were murdered inside 2 tall buildings by the thousands. and so are theirs in a comparable manner: with airstrikes

    doesn't matter whether it's on purpose. those are murdered innocents. an Iraqi mother, an American mother, the value of their lives is fundamentally the same to me

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  • I have seen the face of such hate propagandists before ... Have a look.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

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  • Maybe in FoxLand.

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  • "Cheney is winning on this because it's intuitively and empirically obvious that the techniques have worked and saved many American lives."

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    torturing foreign prisoners saves lives? then why aren't we torturing domestic prisoners?

    heck why don't we torture every suspect they bring into the station the same way they tortured every suspect they brought into Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo?

    ah yes, now i remember: that's terrorism

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    • Geez Las. Not even you can make this stand up. We don't torture domestically, if we "torture" at all, because this is America. No gulags, no killing fields and we jail soldiers that step over the line. Show me a radical muslim that does that. I have argued this very same point in the last 24 hours on another post.

      "If torture works, why don't we torture shoplifters?" or some such argument. The heinous moral equivalence is astounding. We don't do such things in America More..

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    • - "We don't torture domestically, if we "torture" at all, because this is America."

      We don't torture, domestically, because we have strict laws against that. We're also expected, in terms of our credibility as a nation, to uphold our legal agreements internationally

      - "The enemy we fight hides and dodges among innocents and is quite willing to take those same innocents with them in order to kill just one American soldier. And somehow, out of this moral shithole, libs l More..

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